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Old 17 January 2008, 01:25 PM
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Default Whiteline decision - more advice

Purchasing whiteline bits next week and was looking for peoples experience on two options.

Car is 02 wrx wagon with 300/315 and is a daily driver used mostly on a and b roads.

Already have full prodrive shocks and springs with sti genome front strut brace

1.

Standard front ARB
22mm rear adjustable ARB
Steel drop links front and back
Anti lift kit

2.

front 22mm adj. ARB
rear 24mm adj. ARB
steel drop links all round
anti lift kit

Full geo setup. Can anyone reccomend the best place in the east of scotland for this.

911 has been in touch and advised on the 2nd option but not sure if this is a bit too much for the level of use, no track days etc. Although that may come soon!


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Old 17 January 2008, 01:52 PM
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Id be tempted to go for the first option but without the anti-lift kit. If you opt for everything, then Id also look at some proper bracing for the front too.
Old 17 January 2008, 01:55 PM
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Further to that, I mean a lower 'H' brace and a pair of inner wing braces (seldom talked about but 100x more useful than cosmetic strut top braces!).

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Why not the ALK and what sort of front bracing as I already have a stru brace.
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Originally Posted by GC8
Id be tempted to go for the first option but without the anti-lift kit. .
I had this on my car with PD Springs and fast road geo, was great and all I needed for a and b road fun. Best thing is not to do it all at once or you can't see what improved what.
Old 17 January 2008, 01:58 PM
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I probably answered this whilst you were typing.
Old 17 January 2008, 01:59 PM
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Yeah you did but why not an ALK?
Old 17 January 2008, 02:00 PM
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Diminishing return: I dont think that you get that much for it.
Old 17 January 2008, 02:01 PM
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Leaning towards the first option as I can then install a front 22mm adj. ARB and then at a later date upgrade the rear to 24mm.

Also looking to uprate the engine and gear box mounts at some point.
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Apparently anti lift kit will sort most of the understeer out and it is best to start with the rear. Have a word with cusco kid (Geo) i think he posts here but more on the SIDC board. He should be able to supply and possibly fit the bits.

Barring that i'd be tempted to try Dunc at Hypertech. That way you can get the for wheel alignment done too (as usual i'm only talking about people i've had experience of so as not to dismiss any other options!)

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Happy to do the install myself, just done headers, turbo and injectors etc. Have access to ramps so it makes things much more enjoyable.

Do you have a contact number for Dunc at Hypertech so I can get a costing on the alignment.

Ta
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Not on me but it is £55 i know that. Mine is going in soon. Needed new camber bolts for the rear when they went to do it before Christmas and they didn't have any left in stock so i need to rebook. He didn't charge for the wasted time though!

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Go for option 1. I've heard the front ARB will re-introduce understeer.

I have pretty much option 1 and it made a massive difference.

Dastek in Dalgety bay can do your geometry.

I first had it done at Powerstation while i was down south, then took the readings to dastek to them to copy after i'd had the front struts replaced.
Old 17 January 2008, 06:27 PM
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Waiting to hear back from Hypertech. They supply whiteline and fit it for free as well as doing the alignment. They also have a new RR which could be worth a power run while there (if not too many £££'s) to compare with the road dyno done by Andy.
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Hi Mark !

I would fit the adjustable rear bar and drop-links first, and see how you like it.
Mine went (on hardest setting) drift style ! Lots of fun but not as quick as the medium setting....

Then if you still feel you need more front end grip.... like I did !

ALK plus front bar and drop-links, add camber bolts for the rear struts and a full geometry set-up and you should be there !

HTH
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P.S. Front bar gave more front end grip, which calmed the rear so that I'm running hard/hard front to rear at the moment ! It's ace !
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What size of bars on front and rear dunx?
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Were about's in edinburgh you from Mark?
Old 17 January 2008, 07:15 PM
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Just outside Edinburgh, Gorebridge in Midlothian. You?
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I'm at north Edinburgh (muirhouse). You dont drive along seafield road way in the mornings do you?
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22 mm front and 24 mm rear both adjustable ! Very harsh over ridges on hard/hard but so crazy grippy except on slicks in the snow obviously ! !

HTH

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Not me on seafield road mate. You can tell my car as its got thule aero roof bars and double bike rack as I do a bit of mountain biking. Bars not on at the moment as I cant cycle due to having my knee ligaments reconstructed.
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Someone else with a blue wagon like yours then!
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What mods you got planned butler?
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Originally Posted by GazTheHat

1) Go for option 1. I've heard the front ARB will re-introduce understeer.

2) I have pretty much option 1 and it made a massive difference.

3) Dastek in Dalgety bay can do your geometry.
1) Agreed

2) Me too !

3) Agreed

You can buy the bits from Demon Tweeks by mail order.
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Originally Posted by mark.t
Not me on seafield road mate. You can tell my car as its got thule aero roof bars and double bike rack as I do a bit of mountain biking. Bars not on at the moment as I cant cycle due to having my knee ligaments reconstructed.
Where do you go biking ?
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Glentress mostly but sometimes pentlands and falkirk. Do a bit of road biking when the weather is good.

Do you bike?
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Originally Posted by mark.t
What mods you got planned butler?

I'm about to do the Whiteline stuff to mate. Starting off with rear ARB and solid drop links see how that feels. Did you hear back from hypertech m8?
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option 1, do rear arb only, drop link, anti lift kit, steering rack bush's as well and then strut braces all round.

if you realy wanna go mad then fit kyb shocks and eibach lowering springs, did so to my classic and holy f**k goes round corners like its on rails
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Hyperech can supply 22mm rear adj. arb, f&r steel drop links and ALK for £354. They offer free fitting and the alignment is £55.

Thats £409 supplied, fitted and set up. I can get the parts for £320 and fit them myself but I think I will just book in for next week and be done with it.

Tidgy - already have prodrive suspension (bilstien shocks and eibach springs) and a front sti genome strut brace.
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cool, then should be well sorted once you've done the whiteline bits


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