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Old 25 January 2008, 12:46 PM
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Unhappy mot failed

well the car dident pass, the emissions were very high

just got in touch with the company who mapped/set the ecu up
waiting to hear back from them

the other things it failed on was a blow bulb & a light spray of oil on a rear shocker.

i need basicly the car mapping via the esl daughter bourd
i may even get in touch with scooby world becouse it could even be the sports cat

well i guess thats that
Old 25 January 2008, 01:56 PM
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Not that this helps, but Mine passed today.. third year running !

I'm sure my brakes are due to be replaced too.. and I'm really, really in need of a service ! My car too
Old 25 January 2008, 02:13 PM
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mine failed due to the mapped chips i had. made the emissions to high
Old 25 January 2008, 02:46 PM
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It may well be the sports cat mate, when i had one on my old gt4 celica it failed, you need to warm them up before you go for the M.O.T, drive around for about 20 - 30mins and it should be fine, thats what i done anyway and it went through after that, should have just gone for the decat and just change it once a year!!!!!
Old 25 January 2008, 02:48 PM
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Not got a standard ecu you could borrow to throw on for the mot?,thats what i did last year disconected the apexi,fitted the original ecu slapped the center cat back on and tootled off to the mot,ecu no longer suitable due to different turbo but fine for cruising down for the mot.... tested well within limits and then whipped the cat off and refited the apexi pfc,jobs a good un.
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Old 25 January 2008, 03:01 PM
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the sports cat was hot

but to how high the emissions were.
fast idletest, you should be no higher than 0.30% the car was 2.32%
second fast idle test, again 0.30% the car was 3.53%
& natural idle test, should be no more than 0.50% & the car was 3.77%

with a de-cat it shoulden't be that high. the chips wre mapped for the car, & i'm thinking of getting an apexi fc

that or i can not use the car again
Old 25 January 2008, 03:05 PM
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How many miles on the engine?,blue smoke out of the exhaust by chance?
Old 25 January 2008, 03:08 PM
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no, i rebuilt the engine not long ago. with new pistons & rings ect

they have sti v4 piston know

this is since i put a set of esl chips in. they were set up for what i have.
theres no smoke at all

i just notices the fuel diden't go anywhere
Old 25 January 2008, 04:39 PM
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the esl chip will rely on the lambda sensor to pass the emissions..

lambda probably dead..

Also you should get it remapped if you have changed pistons unless the dish gives the same compression etc..

Simon
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Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
the esl chip will rely on the lambda sensor to pass the emissions..

lambda probably dead..

Also you should get it remapped if you have changed pistons unless the dish gives the same compression etc..

Simon
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Old 25 January 2008, 05:28 PM
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i know the compresion is higher on the sti pistons.
but all the mods were told to esl, & the chips were set up

again, i'm not blamming esl at all
& still say the chips are great

i might just change the chip to the ones set up for the 380cc injectors & see if the emissions are better

i may also get a new lamber senser
but in respect of this, i do think i need a remap to how the car is. it could also be the fact i also have a front mount

if i go for the apexi, how much will i be looking t for mapping it with the cars set up?
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Old 25 January 2008, 07:55 PM
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Now this isn't really legal but what i do to save me having to put my cat back every year is i use a garage that's willing to use a different car on the emissions test(due to it all been computerised now they cant just pass it). Last year a mondeo past my test for me, obviously you need to find a garage that will bend the rules slightly.
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its a good idea, but it must be doing some damage using the petrol
i know the engine was getting quite hot

if it was only just over slightly. then i woulden't be so bothered. but its miles over the limite
Old 25 January 2008, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jonoburns
Now this isn't really legal but what i do to save me having to put my cat back every year is i use a garage that's willing to use a different car on the emissions test(due to it all been computerised now they cant just pass it). Last year a mondeo past my test for me, obviously you need to find a garage that will bend the rules slightly.


Isn't really legal .... That's OK then
Old 25 January 2008, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Godden87
It may well be the sports cat mate, when i had one on my old gt4 celica it failed, you need to warm them up before you go for the M.O.T, drive around for about 20 - 30mins and it should be fine, thats what i done anyway and it went through after that, should have just gone for the decat and just change it once a year!!!!!
I had a standard v5 type R that failed on the emissions,so i mentioned to the guy that the car needs to be at full running temperature to pass.
He had never heard of this so i took the car about a 6/7 mile dash put it straight back on to the MOT bay and he tested it again and it flew through.The guy at the MOT station could not believe it,and he said to me you learn somthing new every day.Give it go mate it might save you throwing more money at your car you have no need to.
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will do mate
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I thought the piston change was after remap

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Old 26 January 2008, 11:48 AM
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If he's running Lambda one, the CO without a catalyst would be about 0.67%, not the 2 odd percent he has, at that rich the catalyst can't convert as their is no excess oxygen to oxidise the CO and HC....

Simon
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Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
I thought the piston change was after remap

Simon
no, it was before.

i think the mistake was, the map was done out of exsoearience & not a rolling road ect

its my foult really. i was told to
but he said he can get it about right,

so i took the chance. but with the pistons being different to standard wrx/uk pistons & the compresion being higher

this + the injectors should be done different on every car.
with all the answeres i get, its being over fuels.

+ with the plugs set to 0.6 it would still fire ok.
it makes sence to

i had to change the plugs becouse one was cracked. + they were quit black as if it was running on choke alot

i'm going to change the lambda, the next step is a live map as it will be the cheapest way at this point to get mapped

so i better get saving
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