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turrrrrbo options :)
if i wanted to see 300bhp and similar torque from my uk classic, what sort of turbos could i use?
im considering getting a low mileage one second hand if the seller is trust worthy and then having it fitted/remapped to achive hopefully above figure.
vf28, vf34?
the car as many know is a my99 uk classic. have a good panel air filter on there and a full 3" decat (nur spec-r), so i would have hoped 300 was a good target? i would be happy with that for this car.
suggestions on capable turbos please? second hand/recon prices also? the car wont/doesnt see track days and its mainly just for little squirts now and again.
cheers, andy
im considering getting a low mileage one second hand if the seller is trust worthy and then having it fitted/remapped to achive hopefully above figure.
vf28, vf34?
the car as many know is a my99 uk classic. have a good panel air filter on there and a full 3" decat (nur spec-r), so i would have hoped 300 was a good target? i would be happy with that for this car.
suggestions on capable turbos please? second hand/recon prices also? the car wont/doesnt see track days and its mainly just for little squirts now and again.
cheers, andy
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for that level TD04 hybrid mate.
You'll want an uprated fuel pump, 3 port boost solenoid and I'd reccomend the samco turbo hose kit, and ported and wrapped headers too.
Would make for a supremely responsive drive and should get you to 300 and similar torque
As usual, I'd suggest you have a chat with David at APi
You'll want an uprated fuel pump, 3 port boost solenoid and I'd reccomend the samco turbo hose kit, and ported and wrapped headers too.
Would make for a supremely responsive drive and should get you to 300 and similar torque
As usual, I'd suggest you have a chat with David at APi
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for that level TD04 hybrid mate.
You'll want an uprated fuel pump, 3 port boost solenoid and I'd reccomend the samco turbo hose kit, and ported and wrapped headers too.
Would make for a supremely responsive drive and should get you to 300 and similar torque
As usual, I'd suggest you have a chat with David at APi
You'll want an uprated fuel pump, 3 port boost solenoid and I'd reccomend the samco turbo hose kit, and ported and wrapped headers too.
Would make for a supremely responsive drive and should get you to 300 and similar torque
As usual, I'd suggest you have a chat with David at APi
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if i wanted to see 300bhp and similar torque from my uk classic, what sort of turbos could i use?
im considering getting a low mileage one second hand if the seller is trust worthy and then having it fitted/remapped to achive hopefully above figure.
vf28, vf34?
the car as many know is a my99 uk classic. have a good panel air filter on there and a full 3" decat (nur spec-r), so i would have hoped 300 was a good target? i would be happy with that for this car.
suggestions on capable turbos please? second hand/recon prices also? the car wont/doesnt see track days and its mainly just for little squirts now and again.
cheers, andy
im considering getting a low mileage one second hand if the seller is trust worthy and then having it fitted/remapped to achive hopefully above figure.
vf28, vf34?
the car as many know is a my99 uk classic. have a good panel air filter on there and a full 3" decat (nur spec-r), so i would have hoped 300 was a good target? i would be happy with that for this car.
suggestions on capable turbos please? second hand/recon prices also? the car wont/doesnt see track days and its mainly just for little squirts now and again.
cheers, andy
UK MY99
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Zen put a VF35 on mine (~£250 second hand IIRC) Uprated fuel pump, Roger Clark 3" Sports Cat system , STi8 intercooler + Paul's magic all combine to give about 325-330. Any more and I'd be worried about my gearbox Original (?) 70K clutch is still OK (except occasionally on cold/damp days in 5th at around peak torque - only happened once or twice so not really a major issue as yet)
so looking at responces thus far, uprated fuel pump seems important too.
so safely im looking at
new turbo
remap
fuel pump
as minimum to get to my target
gearbox is new, clutch is new so 300 shouldnt be an issue.
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He may have been under the impression that you already have an uprated fuel pump. I would say you should definately consider that!! Generally folks upgrade the fuel pump when remapped on the std TD04. 3 port boost solenoid also a good idea, can be had for 20ish quid second hand and will enable better boost control.
You don't need the hose kit and the ported and wrapped headers, but the std hoses can split under increased boost pressure and the ported headers are just a good mod: lower boost threshold, improve responsiveness and get a few more ponies out of the car across the rev range.
How much do you want to spend?
Ns04
You don't need the hose kit and the ported and wrapped headers, but the std hoses can split under increased boost pressure and the ported headers are just a good mod: lower boost threshold, improve responsiveness and get a few more ponies out of the car across the rev range.
How much do you want to spend?
Ns04
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Yes, should have said it was about 300 with just turbo,fuel pump,remap & de-cat downpipe (otherwise standard exhaust), the Graham Goode (not RCMS!) and intercooler were just the icing on the cake
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He may have been under the impression that you already have an uprated fuel pump. I would say you should definately consider that!! Generally folks upgrade the fuel pump when remapped on the std TD04. 3 port boost solenoid also a good idea, can be had for 20ish quid second hand and will enable better boost control.
You don't need the hose kit and the ported and wrapped headers, but the std hoses can split under increased boost pressure and the ported headers are just a good mod: lower boost threshold, improve responsiveness and get a few more ponies out of the car across the rev range.
How much do you want to spend?
Ns04
You don't need the hose kit and the ported and wrapped headers, but the std hoses can split under increased boost pressure and the ported headers are just a good mod: lower boost threshold, improve responsiveness and get a few more ponies out of the car across the rev range.
How much do you want to spend?
Ns04
oh and the samco kit which includes the y-pipe and intercooler hose. is this what you mean ns04?
i presume if i could get hold of the boost solenoid and turbo/fuel pump, david would fit them the day of the map?
i dont wanna go ott, as the car has 136,000miles on the clock (current engine is 66k) so i dont wanna spend £1000s when eventually its worth nothing.
so a safe 300bhp for a couple years is what im after.
sooo...
remap £?
turbo £300
fuel pump £?
solenoid £20-30
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well bear in mind what ever you have done will be usable on the new engine, if the worst happens, but im running a vf34 and supporting mods at 340bhp on a my00 uk turbo with 85k on it and its fine.
although i should add i'm on a ppg gearbox, but that went before i got to 340
although i should add i'm on a ppg gearbox, but that went before i got to 340
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opinions on that?
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i have a vf28, that should see u to 340 with supporting mods, spools up quick as well so good for ur short "squirts" but for more power u wana get the vf34 that can go 400bhp
i looking to get the vf34 as myself, just need to sort other things out 1st
btw u would need that fuel pump just to b safe, they not that expensive either
i currently running same car as u:
440 injectors
walbro 255 fuel pump,
vf28,
decat ninja uppipe n centre,
magnez backbox,
remapped,
got a printout for 284bhp with 280torque - a more aggressive remap would prob stretch to 300bhp
i looking to get the vf34 as myself, just need to sort other things out 1st
btw u would need that fuel pump just to b safe, they not that expensive either
i currently running same car as u:
440 injectors
walbro 255 fuel pump,
vf28,
decat ninja uppipe n centre,
magnez backbox,
remapped,
got a printout for 284bhp with 280torque - a more aggressive remap would prob stretch to 300bhp
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or at least thats my understanding
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340is also VERY rare on a VF28, 300-320 range more common.
As the OP wants 300 a hybrid TD04 would be the best bet as it spools the quickest at that power level.
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Take Tidgy's word for it mate; you're not going to get 400bhp out of a 34, not unless by supporting mods you mean a) Nitrous or b) a very optimistic RR
340is also VERY rare on a VF28, 300-320 range more common.
As the OP wants 300 a hybrid TD04 would be the best bet as it spools the quickest at that power level.
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340is also VERY rare on a VF28, 300-320 range more common.
As the OP wants 300 a hybrid TD04 would be the best bet as it spools the quickest at that power level.
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with the 340 on vf28; that iv seen first hand, so its definanity poss, tho prob is pushing the turbo abit hard
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I've heard of one VF28 produce 340 too. I don't recall which RR peoduced the figure nor what the supporting mods were, but I do seem to recall comments to the effect of "blimey that's unusual" (though not so polite ) and "the turbo would be under a lot of strain to get that figure". Again, expressed in a less polite manner!
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which dyno was it on? lol
there are some very optimistic ones out there lol.
although you do sometimes get odd ones that break the mould and the trend, i have seen a standard td04 break 300, only just, but it did witht he right supporting mods.
also got 258bhp and 280ftlb on my old td04, which is strange for the torwue to be so high
there are some very optimistic ones out there lol.
although you do sometimes get odd ones that break the mould and the trend, i have seen a standard td04 break 300, only just, but it did witht he right supporting mods.
also got 258bhp and 280ftlb on my old td04, which is strange for the torwue to be so high
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How about a good old TD05 16G
Tough critter, early spool and can be mapped to gearbox smashing potential.....a bit "old school" but it would be my preferred option
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Tough critter, early spool and can be mapped to gearbox smashing potential.....a bit "old school" but it would be my preferred option
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normally doesn't get as good results as the vf's, but a capable turbo, would prefer to get the 18g myself for that bit of breathing space, well had i not got the vf34 lol
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Wack this on it. More than capable.
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