chocolate_o_brian

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had a long standing hesitant boost issue, and several tweeks havent sorted it. so im thinking if i had it ecutek remapped by a reputable mapper, would this solve it?

car is standard engine wise apart from a full blitz decat, bailey b.o.v. and different fuel pressure regulator?

so if the cars standard 215bhp (my99 classic), would around 260bhp post map be achievable with a much better driving experience?

as i know the licence is the main part of the cost, if i decided to add further mods in the future, ie bigger turbo etc, it would cost only a couple hundred pounds as long as i went to the same mapper right

im not trying to be tight regards looking after the car, id like to release the extra horses from the decat without going and spending £££'s on a bigger turbo, fuel pump, injectors etc etc. insurance too.

also, the funny boost in the cold has been there before the vta b.o.v. was fitted

so would the £500-600 be worth it overall. ive got a decent enough suspension/brake set up and good tyres.

The Chief

A remap will transform it - it will make it safer ( seriously) nicerto drive and in some cases better mpg, as well as a lovely midrange boost

pslewis

Amazing what these re-maps can do ...... I'm going to suggest the Country gets a re-map - will sort out all the issues and make it safer

T5OLF

iTrader: (4)

Trolling again Pete? you nothing better to do with your time........

mike799

i have a my98 uk saloon,just as it came on boost it was like it held back then pulled strongly,this would do this everytime i put foot down,had my car remapped didn't make any difference except it was alot quicker & alot more torque.i think td04 turbo's seem to be prone for this little hesitation coming on boost.i've now had a vf35 turbo fitted mapped & no more hesitation

as you said you have a full decat exhaust,you would make the most out of it with a remap,260-280bhp

yes once you've paid for the licence remap would be a lot cheaper.

yes it would be worth the pennies,it will certainly put a smile on your face

hope this helps

chocolate_o_brian

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ok people thatnks for the opinions.

pete.... trolling. go away please.

so even though i have little mods, a custom map designed to make the most of what i have done and suit my driving style over subarus general map would be a good idea.

i was under the slight impression that it may have been a waste of money unless i had loads of mods to add to it.

i personally dont mind having the car mapped now and adding further mods later on such as turbo fuel pump etc.

il have to save up now and get in touch with a mapper.

F1 CJE UK

iTrader: (8)

go for a map it really, Improves the car and makes the most of the type of fuel you use … I noticed the same mpg but with loads more power... + its cheap to have it maped again if you add mods to the car

Varboy

Do you ever get bored of coming out with the same old carp?

I wish someone would remap your head with cricket bat.

dnc

CoB,
I think you knew the answer to this before you posted . Or were you just PSL baiting? Get a ****-link to really **** him off.

Think your de-cat is a good place to start for a re-map anyway.
dnc

Andy.F

Another option would be an Ecutek Tek2. This has dropped in popularity lately but is very similar to a Prodrive PPP map upgrade and is based on the latest software for your model.
The earlier ECU's (cover number AE800 and AE801) were known for their hesitations.
You could expect 250-260 bhp with this generic map based on modified AE802 files.

If you are intending modifying further in future then this already includes the licence for your ECU and is less initial outlay.

Downside is obviously you don't get the full benefit of a custom mapping which would take your set up to 270-280bhp. Upside is it costs around £300+vat

Andy

rabskyline

i had a custom map done to a 2000 uk car and was RR at 266 bhp and the difference was simply stunning... i know there are loads of bigger bhp cars out there but this was a great road car and it pulled to the redline very well from mid 2's... i would go for andy's custom map as it will be loads better than a generic map due to every car being different miles and extras etc.... worth the extra in my opinion...and transform the ordinary drive into an exciting one....

dnc

Straight from the horses' mouth. Rumour has it this guy knows his stuff
dnc

The Chief

Andy F did mine and it drove lovely afterwards simply superb, worth every penny

dunx

iTrader: (3)

Actually c.o.b. once the licence is paid you can use any mapper, but they can't re-hash someone else's work, I gained this knowledge from Simon (JGM) and Andy.F. Well someone has to shut me up..... I should be ready soon !

HTH

DunxC

chocolate_o_brian

iTrader: (22)

thing was i heard that some mappers dont give out the licence to other mappers. so say i went to mapper "x" and had my car beautifully mapped. really spot on job. but then add a turbo etc and go to mapper "y". mapper "x" doesnt give the licence so i have to pay from the start full price again.

anyone make any sense of that?

im just undecided where to go.

Snazy

I still keep considering remaps too, but it seems like a political minefield out there. Right price, high price, bad map, good map.... arrrgh!

hoskib

iTrader: (1)

i think this would be a good middle road for you andy, i had a TEK2 on my old 99 (full decat, green filter) and it hit a rather optimistic 270bhp on PE rollers.
but it totally transfromed the car, anyone who has gone from a std to remapped car just can't get over how much difference it makes

all depends on your budget really, you'll have big smile either way

dunx

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The work is "owned" by the mapper, but the licence fee goes to Ecutek.
So second time around I can use anyone handy, but they start from scratch.... not a problem if it's manifold, turbo, injectors.... as it's a big change.
You need to work out how far you are going and build your strategy to suit.
If you want the car to run well, do it now... but if like me you get greedy then bolt-on the turbo and do it just the once for a life-changing experience.

DunxC

P.S. You could have tried mine at Blyton yesterday....

chocolate_o_brian

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i wouldnt have been able to afford the insurance when i crashed it

Andy.F

I don't lock them, the licence remains open to any Ecutek tuner so you only buy it once.

I charge £190+v for subsequent full mapping with unlimited mods, less if its a small upgrade such as just headers or bigger exhaust etc.

Andy

chocolate_o_brian

iTrader: (22)

hmmm i guess its a case of deciding which mapper i would like to use the most and save up my pennies.

can i ask one question andy. as you map on the road and not rollers, whats the scenario with telling customers their bhp/torque readings before/after mapping.

this is a general query, not me having a dig by the way genuinely interested as some are 100% for rolling roads ie scoobyclinic and mr hepburn, while some are roads maps, ie you jgm etc.

any advice appreciated

Andy.F

With Ecutek I can produce a RoadDyno power output, this is the power your car produced out on the road when it has the proper cooling and loading applied. This tends to match quite well with Dastek rolling roads.

DeltaDash On-Road Dyno Testing



Rolling road power figures will differ for a hundred reasons. When 2 different makes of rolling road can consistantly agree on a figure then I'll buy one for sure !

Rolling road info

I don't think anyone advocates 100% rolling road tuning, they can very quickly develop the base maps on the rollers and then most tuners run them on the road afterwards to optimise air fuel ratios and boost control.

chocolate_o_brian

iTrader: (22)

thanks for that andy. very insightful and good to know if i end up having it mapped on the road i can have an accurate graph of power output

appreciate your time on this one mate

dunx

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c.o.b. I wasn't insured either as I attacked an innocent tyre !

The 70 mph 360 dgree spin in the dry was INTERESTING.....

I've calmed down today...

Duncan

P.S. You off to Hull on Thursday ?

chocolate_o_brian

iTrader: (22)

possibly mate yes. im thinking about the nysoc meet too this week. hopefully all the hassle and trouble making has settled. i take it your going eh? young 'un

dunx

iTrader: (3)

I'm off to Squire's on Tuesday so need to make my mind up....

Re-map by JGM is now (maybe) 26th of May so may splash out !

Selfish huh ?

DunxC

Ryo

Great thread here, Im in the same boat really. Had my car 2 years, only mod is STI back box.

I went to see Len at Subaru4You at the weekend and now cant stop thinking about panel filters and de-cats.

Then going to get a re-map, probably from JGM - cant wait to get the exhaust on.