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Old 25 June 2008, 08:51 PM
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With this whole car tax issue for post 2001 cars, has anyone noticed any rise in value of late classics? I've noticed a few threads more than usual from people wanting to buy classics, especially the later models.

I have had two non solicited offers on my car too (MY00). Is it worth hanging onto as an appreciating asset?

I've seen swingeing depreciation in 05/06 models too.
Old 25 June 2008, 10:11 PM
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I've not noticed anything but then again not really looked to much into it, more relief for me really because faced with a huge road tax bill I think it would have to go.

Being £185 a year it makes it more of an ideal choice of second car than ever now. I don't mind it being parked up for periods of time through winter or even during the week when running the small car to work, mine works out at £11 a week these days tax/insurance/mot if it turns a wheel or not. I would like to think this could help boulster the value even with fuel costs.
Old 25 June 2008, 10:45 PM
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Doesn't the tax go up to £300 a year next year anyway on a 2000 model.
Old 25 June 2008, 10:52 PM
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No. Mine's £185 until April 2010 when it'll leap to £200
Old 25 June 2008, 11:12 PM
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I am of the opinion that the insurance has gone up on classics recently.
A quote on a standard (non WR) RB5 was £750 which was the same as a modded MY03 STI.
A mate has just had a quote on an (non WR) RB5 and his was £100 more expensive than a JDM newage STI.
Old 25 June 2008, 11:17 PM
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My insurance is the same at £640 with extensive mods. That's withoutspending more than 20 mins shopping around.
Old 26 June 2008, 01:48 AM
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My insurance has come down to £300 for a 00 classic

and was £400 last year and £450 year before

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Old 26 June 2008, 08:19 AM
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i was looking at classics in the autotrader yesterday for 1700 quid lmao

that is just comedy pricing now
Old 26 June 2008, 08:57 AM
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I dont think they have gone up looking through the ads - come down if anything as stated above
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I think they have come down a lot quite recently.

My W-Reg MY00 with 100k and some nice mods, until recently I thought it was worth 4k easily.

Now, looking at some 99-00s that have been struggling to sell - I think mine is worth 3-3.5k tops.
Old 26 June 2008, 11:28 AM
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Totally agree.
Prices have plummeted in the last 9 months.

My low mileage MY99 with a tad under 320bhp was worth, I reckon, £5500 a year ago.

Be lucky to see £4000 for it now. And I begrudge selling spomething for less than it's worth. And I don't think the current market truely reflects the cars worth hence I'm not gonna sell it. So let the mods begin again. It's just not worth selling!
Old 26 June 2008, 11:35 AM
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I thought theyd come down?? im buying a bugeye over the next month fingers crossed and jus need to sell my classic now to go towards it, bloody hard, lol. even tried a quote from Sell Your Used Car Online For Free - We Buy Any Car and actually was only 400quid less than what im asking for it, so not bad
Old 26 June 2008, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobynutta555
With this whole car tax issue for post 2001 cars, has anyone noticed any rise in value of late classics? I've noticed a few threads more than usual from people wanting to buy classics, especially the later models.

I have had two non solicited offers on my car too (MY00). Is it worth hanging onto as an appreciating asset?

I've seen swingeing depreciation in 05/06 models too.
Having been looking on Pistonheads for the last 3-4 months I'd say prices are still pretty much in free fall ...cost of unleaded & people tightening their belts having a much bigger impact on the market than people swapping to older cars that are cheaper to tax, imo.

Example being i was looking for a V5/6 Type RA this time last year, prices were around £10K ...from what's selling/sold on PH that figure is now closer to £8K
Old 26 June 2008, 12:50 PM
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imo they keep on falling and will do for a while yet, other than fuel and tax i thikn the main issue is people who aare selling are letting tem go for too little as they need or want to get rid which is haveing an overall effect on the market price. i paid ok money for mine at the start of the year but now as its a highish millage but on a new engine and clutch i dont think i woul dget more than 3.5k if i am lucky

at that point i might as well keep it as a play toy as the money that it has cost me to put it right will be a complete waste. so may as well chuck more at it and get a 6speed and 2.5 ltr done over the next year or two
Old 26 June 2008, 05:32 PM
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Nothing seems to shake the price of those evo's
Old 26 June 2008, 05:55 PM
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A MY00 will be worth more and more than a newer Impreza as they age. Imagine an Impreza worth £2000 and having to pay £400+ on car tax? It won't happen (owning, say, a 2001)
Old 26 June 2008, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by stevie1982
imo they keep on falling and will do for a while yet, other than fuel and tax i thikn the main issue is people who aare selling are letting tem go for too little as they need or want to get rid which is haveing an overall effect on the market price. i paid ok money for mine at the start of the year but now as its a highish millage but on a new engine and clutch i dont think i woul dget more than 3.5k if i am lucky

at that point i might as well keep it as a play toy as the money that it has cost me to put it right will be a complete waste. so may as well chuck more at it and get a 6speed and 2.5 ltr done over the next year or two
my point exactly tried selling mine a month ago and best cash offer was 4k with what i spent on the engine rebuild its not worth selling at that price so ill just keep it and modify it i think now
Old 26 June 2008, 07:04 PM
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tried these people Sell Your Used Car Online For Free - We Buy Any Car to see what they would offer me for my 1999 v6 type r,£3345 .
I would deffinately say they were coming down in price if that is any-thing to go by!
Old 26 June 2008, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver Scooby Sport

Being £185 a year it makes it more of an ideal choice of second car than ever now. I.

Mine is a 2003 JDM import STI and mine dropped to £185 this year so not all newer cars are in the higher tax band
Old 26 June 2008, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SunnySideUp
A MY00 will be worth more and more than a newer Impreza as they age. Imagine an Impreza worth £2000 and having to pay £400+ on car tax? It won't happen (owning, say, a 2001)

The price of the car has nothing to do with the grouping for tax, If your car is only worth £2k and the tax is £400 then welcome to the real world
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i think what he means, is that the tax for classics isnt going up, but the newage taxes are....so people would be more inclined into buying a classic over a newage to save money on tax
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Originally Posted by stevebt
Mine is a 2003 JDM import STI and mine dropped to £185 this year so not all newer cars are in the higher tax band
Good on you nice to find a loop hole
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Originally Posted by ash002004
i think what he means, is that the tax for classics isnt going up, but the newage taxes are....so people would be more inclined into buying a classic over a newage to save money on tax

I think MOST people want newer cars and don't want to buy an older car and pay more on repairs to save say £200 on road tax ???
Old 26 June 2008, 10:42 PM
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Yeah, classics are really getting on now so only the true classics (i.e. low mileage and unmolested 22Bs and P1s etc) will be worth anything. It's only £200 difference, which if you can't stomach then you shouldn't own an Impreza.

All cars have plummeted in value of late, except the exclusive models, thanks to the economy in general. If newage prices drop, then classics will be negatively effected as well, as few will buy an older car for more than what they can get a newer one for the sake of £200 a year.
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Originally Posted by stevebt
I think MOST people want newer cars and don't want to buy an older car and pay more on repairs to save say £200 on road tax ???
Wrong.

Imagine, if you will, a MY00 Classic Impreza £200 Car Tax - then align it to a MY01 Impreza £450 Car Tax.

Both cars are identical in mileage, condition, history - both are priced at £2000.

It doesn't take an intellectual to know that the Classic will sell for £2000 - the BugEye will not sell (probably the car is worthless as over 5 years of ownership you will have to pay an ADDITIONAL £1250 tax!!) ..... I would be so bold as to suggest that the MY01 BugEye would have to be broken for parts.

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Sparshatts of Botley have a MY2000 UK Classic in mica red with 45k on the clock, looks totally standard. Screen price: £7999

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Originally Posted by SqeekyMclean
Nothing seems to shake the price of those evo's
EVO6s being offered under 8K? No nothing shifts them
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Originally Posted by scoobynutta555
My insurance is the same at £640 with extensive mods. That's withoutspending more than 20 mins shopping around.
phone MoleyWRX up...mine was £450 with all mods declared (TD05 18g, 550's ect)...worth a phone call.
Old 27 June 2008, 02:22 PM
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Everytime I call the guy I either never get through or don't have calls returned

Late classics have over the last few years (IIRC) have in general been worth more than early bugeyes, thats BEFORE this extra tax comes into place.

Classic prices may well have dipped a bit since this fuel thing, but not as much as newer shape Imprezas. The depreciation on the cars only a few years old is phenomenal.

Just MOT'd my car a few days ago, flew through it. All I've spent is money on an oil and air filter and an oil change. If you get a good car and look after it Imprezas don't cost much at all to maintain. If this tax thing goes ahead I can see the best cared for classics being quite sought after. Yes things can go wrong on classics but they won't lose several grand in depreciation in the first year. For the life of me I can't see why anyone would want a new one?
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