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Old 04 August 2008 | 09:56 PM
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Which is likely to be quickest?

An RB5 running 330/310 v MY98 M5 on straight roads from 2nd gear to 3 figures.

These sort of threads usually get an interesting response.
Old 04 August 2008 | 09:57 PM
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Tad bored of these sort of threads !!!
Old 04 August 2008 | 09:59 PM
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IMO and ive seen the performance of the previous M5 vs my own car, id say the M5 would (With a capable driver) comfortably beat the impreza.

They are hugely underated cars IMO.
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Originally Posted by finchyboy
Tad bored of these sort of threads !!!
Tad bored of members posting this sort of response on these sort of threads.
Can you not muster up anything a little more interesting?
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lol....i wrote off my M5...though MY03 STI i have at the moment is at the same pace as my brothers M5 from start to all the way to the Top...fule consumption is the same also also..the only differnece is mines a 2L and his is a 5L...


but ye..you cant really compare the build the the comfort side of things...because the Japs just have not cought up in that area just yet...
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Is yours modded Sam?

You have come full circle then.......back to the STI?
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I would have thought you are in M5 territory so it would probably edge it. Past 3 figures it would disappear. From a standing start to 3 figures my money would be on the Impreza to edge it.
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I love an M5!!

Even if it was not faster i know what id rather be in!

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The E39 M5 would eat a 340bhp scooby ... but ... i would say the scooby would be close to 60 as the E39 does struggle to get the power down of the line without lots of smoke and noise.
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The E39 M5 would eat a 340bhp scooby ... but ... i would say the scooby would be close to 60 as the E39 does struggle to get the power down of the line without lots of smoke and noise.
Am I right in saying that the M5 in question is 400bhp?

If so, would the lardy M5 'eat' the Impreza in question?
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i had a blast with one from dartford crossing he left a tad infront and i got neck with him to 60/70 then had to slow down cos of traffic and mines a UK turbo with mods
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like someone said they aren't too good at putting there power down from standstill especially the e60 with 507bhp...standing start i wud imagine scooby would have any m5 up to 60-80 sort of speed then the m5 would close in...to be honest it would be quite close between a standard sti and an e39 m5 as they have 400 bhp but are much heavier then a scoob...i wouldnt have thought there would be alot init at all...bearing in mind my car was quicker then a e92 m3 with 420 bhp
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Originally Posted by bob r
Tad bored of members posting this sort of response on these sort of threads.
Can you not muster up anything a little more interesting?
Take an m5 for a test drive if you're that bothered !!!
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M5 of that year 231 bhp per tonne

330bhp classic 271 per tonne.

From a rolling 2nd gear start, I think the Impreza would edge it, more so on the 30-60 bit than the 60-100 bit. Overall I think it would depend more on who got their foot down first!

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Originally Posted by finchyboy
Take an m5 for a test drive if you're that bothered !!!
Don't post if you're that bothered.
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My E39 M5 was way quicker than my old 03 STI and getting it off the line wasn't really a concern as you could just granny it and then make up the ground in second gear.
330 bhp in a classic is a bit different than a 280 bhp newage but with the M5 it's all about the torque. 100 in 11.5. I think it would be a close one.
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Originally Posted by SamUK
lol....i wrote off my M5...though MY03 STI i have at the moment is at the same pace as my brothers M5 from start to all the way to the Top...fule consumption is the same also also..the only differnece is mines a 2L and his is a 5L...


but ye..you cant really compare the build the the comfort side of things...because the Japs just have not cought up in that area just yet...
Three points. How much is your insurance after you wrote off your M5!!!??? how heavily modded is your STI? And how crap a driver is your brother?

400bhp V8 is as fast as a 300bhp Turbo 4 pot. Possibly up to 60, but his clutch is going to last a lot longer than yours.
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think it would depend which year m5 the new one would win pretty easy i think, old lower power one would prob edge it though
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Originally Posted by madisonmonkey
330 bhp in a classic is a bit different than a 280 bhp newage but with the M5 it's all about the torque. 100 in 11.5. I think it would be a close one.
The classic in the above scenario would have a better torque to weight ratio, mate.

The M5 is a heavy car 1750kgs IIRC.

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Originally Posted by DB07P1
i wouldnt have thought there would be alot init at all...bearing in mind my car was quicker then a e92 m3 with 420 bhp
what power is your car mate?
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Originally Posted by bob r
Is yours modded Sam?

You have come full circle then.......back to the STI?

Close to 340bhp...running a power Engeneering Stage 2 Remap..(see my profile)

I do miss the M5...but everytime i get in my brother one i do miss it...but both the Scooby and the M5 are good in there own ways...

The Scooby has its advantages over the M5, likewise the M5 has over the Scooby...but i know for a fact that when my M5 aquaplaned on the M25 it was the build quality of the car that saves my a$$


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...s/P1010753.jpg

My brothers M5 e39, recently fitted with a new Engine etc...produced 390bhp on the rollers...and i was very suppressed to find both the Scooby and the M5 been of equal Speed...

Trust me there was allot of checks on our last trip to the Ring....
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Got to be very close the e39 M5 was 1795KG and 395Bhp ... so power to weight the scoob should edge it but nothing in it really. Off the line to 60 the scoob should win easily in the dry and thrash it in the wet.

M5s figures are

0-60 mph 5.30 s
0-100 mph 12.70 s
Standing ¼mile 14.10 s @ 106.00 mph
Standing km 24.20 s @ 203.00 km/h
Top speed 250 km/h (155 mph)
Fuel consumption 21.1/9.8/13.9 l/100km urban/extra-urban/overall
CO2 Emissions 336.0 g/km
Carfolio Calculated CO2 ? 333.60 g/km
Power-to-weight 219.5 bhp/ton

Before buying mine I nearly went for an M3 or M5 but in the end the lack of tuning ability killed it for me.



Scoob FTW
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Originally Posted by Manx_STi
The E39 M5 would eat a 340bhp scooby
Like to see that...
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Originally Posted by BOB'5
Like to see that...
Seconded ----- numbers don't add up I'm afraid .... and no-ones even talking about a road with a bend in it !

This is for the M3 (2003)

0-60 mph 4.80 s
0-100 km/h 5.20 s
0-100 mph 11.50 s
Standing ¼mile 13.40 s @ 107.00 mph
Standing km 23.70 s @ 224.00 km/h
Top speed 257 km/h (160 mph)
Fuel consumption 17.8/8.4/11.9 l/100km urban/extra-urban/overall
CO2 Emissions 287.0 g/km
Carfolio Calculated CO2 ? 285.60 g/km
Power-to-weight 215.29 bhp/ton

and my standard Newage STI PPP outran one (on a private track blah blah blah) in the dry with hardly any bends.

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Originally Posted by Manx_STi
The E39 M5 would eat a 340bhp scooby ....

ammm...no... This is my 4th Scooby.and the between me and my brother have been through 5 M5's...and no...the M5 will not eat a 340bhp Scooby...maybe yours...definatly not mine...
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Well it's good to see a difference in thoughts about my question.

For anyone that is interested, my RB5 put around 50m on the M5 in qestion from around 20mph to 3 figures.
Was the M5 driver trying?..... I think so.
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A 330ish bhp Uk turbo is quicker from a rolling start than an E39 M5 (400bhp)
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Originally Posted by bob r
Well it's good to see a difference in thoughts about my question.

For anyone that is interested, my RB5 put around 50m on the M5 in qestion from around 20mph to 3 figures.
Was the M5 driver trying?..... I think so.
I had the same experience a while back, even slowed down to give him another chance, he tried and got left behind again
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Bob R.

Not bad power for a "lowly" RB5 How did you get her from 215bhp up to 330bhp Hats off to you however if was done.

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