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09 August 2008 | 10:40 AM
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I bet you do too if you can get them for the prices in the valuations you give!! 
2004 (MY05) 54 plate Impreza STI Type UK, Crystal Grey, mint condition, 28K miles FSH.
How much??
£8000
Get F*cked!!!
You won't be getting a "testimonial" from me on how you gave "a great valuation" and how your service was "superb" and "fantastic".
2004 (MY05) 54 plate Impreza STI Type UK, Crystal Grey, mint condition, 28K miles FSH.
How much??
£8000
Get F*cked!!!
You won't be getting a "testimonial" from me on how you gave "a great valuation" and how your service was "superb" and "fantastic".
09 August 2008 | 10:55 AM
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. £8000 is about 35% of the original price which, for a 3-4yr old car, is about right. This is especially true when, with respect, you are talking about a car that was heavily discounted, oversold with umpteen special editions and is about as expensive to run as any comparable car bar an Evo. Were you expecting nearer £10-11k? How is the dealer going to make any money if he gives you that much? Add on the cost of preparation, a warranty, lost interest on the capital and some profit and you're looking at £12-13k minimum. Who in their right mind is going to spend that kind of money on that car at the moment?
Cars depreciate. If they weren't so much fun they would be a TOTAL WASTE OF MONEY! Get used to it.
Cars depreciate. If they weren't so much fun they would be a TOTAL WASTE OF MONEY! Get used to it.
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09 August 2008 | 03:08 PM
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Loving your car doesnt make it depreciation proof!
Further to that, it is extremely naive to expect a higher trade valuation from a firm who undertakes to buy any car. They will offer a lower price, which offsets this: obvious, surely? If you are happy to take their offer for an easy quick sale then take it, but its foolish to complain that the offer doesnt suit you: if Imprezas were selling (or even wanted, which they dont seem to be), then you wouldnt be looking at their offer in the first place...
Further to that, it is extremely naive to expect a higher trade valuation from a firm who undertakes to buy any car. They will offer a lower price, which offsets this: obvious, surely? If you are happy to take their offer for an easy quick sale then take it, but its foolish to complain that the offer doesnt suit you: if Imprezas were selling (or even wanted, which they dont seem to be), then you wouldnt be looking at their offer in the first place...
09 August 2008 | 04:15 PM
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I wasn't complaining that the offer didn't "suit" me, I was merely showing the kind of offers these places make. I spotted a link on a website and put my car into their online valuation tool out of curiosity. I expected a low price......after all......any dealer just goes for Glass's Guide bottom book, regardless of the car's individual merits.
But a low price is one thing and £8000 is another. I'm obviously the same as anyone that would be selling or part-exchanging a car.....we want the best price we can get for our motors, and botom book price just doesn't cut the mustard.
Preparation?? What's that then?? A valet...the car is mint?? Servicing....the car is fully serviced and a second hand dealer wouldn't do an "extra" service in between the manufacturers recommended ones......it would cost them money.
As for a warranty......the car is still covered by Subaru as it is an Approved Used car, so that cost is out of the equation. Anyway...you show me a second hand car dealer that doesn't offer a warranty as an "extra".....they all ask hundreds of pounds for warranties that very often aren't worth any more than the second hand bit of toilet paper that most of them could be written on.
They even cash in the fookin road tax and then charge the buyers for that too!!
Face it.......most second hand car dealers are tw*ts....even the ones on here..........end of
But a low price is one thing and £8000 is another. I'm obviously the same as anyone that would be selling or part-exchanging a car.....we want the best price we can get for our motors, and botom book price just doesn't cut the mustard.
Preparation?? What's that then?? A valet...the car is mint?? Servicing....the car is fully serviced and a second hand dealer wouldn't do an "extra" service in between the manufacturers recommended ones......it would cost them money.
As for a warranty......the car is still covered by Subaru as it is an Approved Used car, so that cost is out of the equation. Anyway...you show me a second hand car dealer that doesn't offer a warranty as an "extra".....they all ask hundreds of pounds for warranties that very often aren't worth any more than the second hand bit of toilet paper that most of them could be written on.
They even cash in the fookin road tax and then charge the buyers for that too!!
Face it.......most second hand car dealers are tw*ts....even the ones on here..........end of
09 August 2008 | 04:34 PM
#12
I wasn't complaining that the offer didn't "suit" me, I was merely showing the kind of offers these places make. I spotted a link on a website and put my car into their online valuation tool out of curiosity. I expected a low price......after all......any dealer just goes for Glass's Guide bottom book, regardless of the car's individual merits.
But a low price is one thing and £8000 is another. I'm obviously the same as anyone that would be selling or part-exchanging a car.....we want the best price we can get for our motors, and botom book price just doesn't cut the mustard.
Preparation?? What's that then?? A valet...the car is mint?? Servicing....the car is fully serviced and a second hand dealer wouldn't do an "extra" service in between the manufacturers recommended ones......it would cost them money.
As for a warranty......the car is still covered by Subaru as it is an Approved Used car, so that cost is out of the equation. Anyway...you show me a second hand car dealer that doesn't offer a warranty as an "extra".....they all ask hundreds of pounds for warranties that very often aren't worth any more than the second hand bit of toilet paper that most of them could be written on.
They even cash in the fookin road tax and then charge the buyers for that too!!
Face it.......most second hand car dealers are tw*ts....even the ones on here..........end of
But a low price is one thing and £8000 is another. I'm obviously the same as anyone that would be selling or part-exchanging a car.....we want the best price we can get for our motors, and botom book price just doesn't cut the mustard.
Preparation?? What's that then?? A valet...the car is mint?? Servicing....the car is fully serviced and a second hand dealer wouldn't do an "extra" service in between the manufacturers recommended ones......it would cost them money.
As for a warranty......the car is still covered by Subaru as it is an Approved Used car, so that cost is out of the equation. Anyway...you show me a second hand car dealer that doesn't offer a warranty as an "extra".....they all ask hundreds of pounds for warranties that very often aren't worth any more than the second hand bit of toilet paper that most of them could be written on.
They even cash in the fookin road tax and then charge the buyers for that too!!
Face it.......most second hand car dealers are tw*ts....even the ones on here..........end of
09 August 2008 | 04:36 PM
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Had I been criticising you directly, then Id have quoted you. As I have said before, there are NEW 07 WRX saloons being offered still, for £10,000. Can your four year old car really be worth anything like as much. You need to place a realistic quick sale valuation on your four year old over-supplied low-demand vehicle.
09 August 2008 | 05:12 PM
#14
Glasses Guide is just that 'a guide', at the moment it is a very rare car that is even worth bottom book.
I have a customer wanting to trade in his 2006 997 Carrera 2 coupe, mint UK car, 14k miles, good colour combi with desirable nav and phone. Glasses trade is £43k, best bid anywhere in the country from main dealers and independants (including the main dealer that he paid £57k 12 months ago) is £37k, best offer last month was £40k against book price of £44750 ! You know the used market is on its a**e when 911's are behind book !
When you can buy a new EU WRX for £15k, the used values are bound to take a hit. I find that some Subaru and Evo owners have the same mindset as MX5 owners had 5-10 yrs ago, ie. used to their cars retaining loads of the purchase price and think that is the norm. When things like cheaper imports or drop in the popularity of their car as a second hand buy make values drop like a stone they often struggle to accept the reality.
The reality is that if a car holds 40% of its new value at 3 years old you have done very well !
As another example, one of our Mercedes dealers sold a 57k Blobeye STi UK this week for £6800 as a retail deal, they had paid £5500 for it by the way.
I have a customer wanting to trade in his 2006 997 Carrera 2 coupe, mint UK car, 14k miles, good colour combi with desirable nav and phone. Glasses trade is £43k, best bid anywhere in the country from main dealers and independants (including the main dealer that he paid £57k 12 months ago) is £37k, best offer last month was £40k against book price of £44750 ! You know the used market is on its a**e when 911's are behind book !
When you can buy a new EU WRX for £15k, the used values are bound to take a hit. I find that some Subaru and Evo owners have the same mindset as MX5 owners had 5-10 yrs ago, ie. used to their cars retaining loads of the purchase price and think that is the norm. When things like cheaper imports or drop in the popularity of their car as a second hand buy make values drop like a stone they often struggle to accept the reality.
The reality is that if a car holds 40% of its new value at 3 years old you have done very well !
As another example, one of our Mercedes dealers sold a 57k Blobeye STi UK this week for £6800 as a retail deal, they had paid £5500 for it by the way.
09 August 2008 | 05:28 PM
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I wasn't complaining that the offer didn't "suit" me, I was merely showing the kind of offers these places make. I spotted a link on a website and put my car into their online valuation tool out of curiosity. I expected a low price......after all......any dealer just goes for Glass's Guide bottom book, regardless of the car's individual merits.
But a low price is one thing and £8000 is another. I'm obviously the same as anyone that would be selling or part-exchanging a car.....we want the best price we can get for our motors, and botom book price just doesn't cut the mustard.
Preparation?? What's that then?? A valet...the car is mint?? Servicing....the car is fully serviced and a second hand dealer wouldn't do an "extra" service in between the manufacturers recommended ones......it would cost them money.
As for a warranty......the car is still covered by Subaru as it is an Approved Used car, so that cost is out of the equation. Anyway...you show me a second hand car dealer that doesn't offer a warranty as an "extra".....they all ask hundreds of pounds for warranties that very often aren't worth any more than the second hand bit of toilet paper that most of them could be written on.
They even cash in the fookin road tax and then charge the buyers for that too!!
Face it.......most second hand car dealers are tw*ts....even the ones on here..........end of
But a low price is one thing and £8000 is another. I'm obviously the same as anyone that would be selling or part-exchanging a car.....we want the best price we can get for our motors, and botom book price just doesn't cut the mustard.
Preparation?? What's that then?? A valet...the car is mint?? Servicing....the car is fully serviced and a second hand dealer wouldn't do an "extra" service in between the manufacturers recommended ones......it would cost them money.
As for a warranty......the car is still covered by Subaru as it is an Approved Used car, so that cost is out of the equation. Anyway...you show me a second hand car dealer that doesn't offer a warranty as an "extra".....they all ask hundreds of pounds for warranties that very often aren't worth any more than the second hand bit of toilet paper that most of them could be written on.
They even cash in the fookin road tax and then charge the buyers for that too!!
Face it.......most second hand car dealers are tw*ts....even the ones on here..........end of
What did you think your car is worth then?
09 August 2008 | 05:38 PM
#16
Original Price £25,977
Franchised Dealer £13,775
Independent Dealer £13,120
Private Good £12,465
Private Poor £10,480
Part Exchange £11,290
8k is a pure **** take, Say yes wait to ya do the deal then say no right at the end see how they like being taken for a *****....
I would say £10 500 is fair for that car in todays market....
Franchised Dealer £13,775
Independent Dealer £13,120
Private Good £12,465
Private Poor £10,480
Part Exchange £11,290
8k is a pure **** take, Say yes wait to ya do the deal then say no right at the end see how they like being taken for a *****....
I would say £10 500 is fair for that car in todays market....
Last edited by BIG FUD; 09 August 2008 at 05:40 PM.
09 August 2008 | 05:43 PM
#17
Had I been criticising you directly, then Id have quoted you. As I have said before, there are NEW 07 WRX saloons being offered still, for £10,000. Can your four year old car really be worth anything like as much. You need to place a realistic quick sale valuation on your four year old over-supplied low-demand vehicle.
Where can you get NEW 07 WRX saloons for £10k?
Cheers,
Ian.
09 August 2008 | 06:23 PM
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Glasses Guide is just that 'a guide', at the moment it is a very rare car that is even worth bottom book.
I have a customer wanting to trade in his 2006 997 Carrera 2 coupe, mint UK car, 14k miles, good colour combi with desirable nav and phone. Glasses trade is £43k, best bid anywhere in the country from main dealers and independants (including the main dealer that he paid £57k 12 months ago) is £37k, best offer last month was £40k against book price of £44750 ! You know the used market is on its a**e when 911's are behind book !
When you can buy a new EU WRX for £15k, the used values are bound to take a hit. I find that some Subaru and Evo owners have the same mindset as MX5 owners had 5-10 yrs ago, ie. used to their cars retaining loads of the purchase price and think that is the norm. When things like cheaper imports or drop in the popularity of their car as a second hand buy make values drop like a stone they often struggle to accept the reality.
The reality is that if a car holds 40% of its new value at 3 years old you have done very well !
As another example, one of our Mercedes dealers sold a 57k Blobeye STi UK this week for £6800 as a retail deal, they had paid £5500 for it by the way.
I have a customer wanting to trade in his 2006 997 Carrera 2 coupe, mint UK car, 14k miles, good colour combi with desirable nav and phone. Glasses trade is £43k, best bid anywhere in the country from main dealers and independants (including the main dealer that he paid £57k 12 months ago) is £37k, best offer last month was £40k against book price of £44750 ! You know the used market is on its a**e when 911's are behind book !
When you can buy a new EU WRX for £15k, the used values are bound to take a hit. I find that some Subaru and Evo owners have the same mindset as MX5 owners had 5-10 yrs ago, ie. used to their cars retaining loads of the purchase price and think that is the norm. When things like cheaper imports or drop in the popularity of their car as a second hand buy make values drop like a stone they often struggle to accept the reality.
The reality is that if a car holds 40% of its new value at 3 years old you have done very well !
As another example, one of our Mercedes dealers sold a 57k Blobeye STi UK this week for £6800 as a retail deal, they had paid £5500 for it by the way.
09 August 2008 | 06:37 PM
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How much do I think it's worth??
Summat like that 
And Mr Brian Of Chocolate ..........I know TOTB is gone mate, but I can't access the bit to change my sig' for some reason.....what....you think I'm mental or summat??...........edit: Accessed and changed.
Original Price £25,977
Franchised Dealer £13,775
Independent Dealer £13,120
Private Good £12,465
Private Poor £10,480
Part Exchange £11,290
8k is a pure **** take, Say yes wait to ya do the deal then say no right at the end see how they like being taken for a *****....
I would say £10 500 is fair for that car in todays market....
Franchised Dealer £13,775
Independent Dealer £13,120
Private Good £12,465
Private Poor £10,480
Part Exchange £11,290
8k is a pure **** take, Say yes wait to ya do the deal then say no right at the end see how they like being taken for a *****....
I would say £10 500 is fair for that car in todays market....
And Mr Brian Of Chocolate ..........I know TOTB is gone mate, but I can't access the bit to change my sig' for some reason.....what....you think I'm mental or summat??
...........edit: Accessed and changed.
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09 August 2008 | 07:19 PM
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damn!! I must have got a good deal, just traded in a 2003 (53) WRX wagon with 64k miles for £10500.
Then again, chopping it in against a brand new STI, so probably a good margin in the new car, or I was very lucky!!
Then again, chopping it in against a brand new STI, so probably a good margin in the new car, or I was very lucky!!
09 August 2008 | 07:58 PM
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Subaru Impreza WRX STI Type UK
2.0 Petrol 4-door Saloon
6 Speed Manual Four Wheel Drive
Year: 2004 54
Mileage: 28,000
Part-exchange Price:
Excellent condition:
£10000
Average condition:
£9020
Below average condition:
£8070
Glass's guide
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09 August 2008 | 08:17 PM
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Original Price £25,977
Franchised Dealer £13,775
Independent Dealer £13,120
Private Good £12,465
Private Poor £10,480
Part Exchange £11,290
8k is a pure **** take, Say yes wait to ya do the deal then say no right at the end see how they like being taken for a *****....
I would say £10 500 is fair for that car in todays market....
Franchised Dealer £13,775
Independent Dealer £13,120
Private Good £12,465
Private Poor £10,480
Part Exchange £11,290
8k is a pure **** take, Say yes wait to ya do the deal then say no right at the end see how they like being taken for a *****....
I would say £10 500 is fair for that car in todays market....
I'm happy to be proved wrong, but does anyone know of anyone, anywhere that has sold a 54 plate STI for £10,500 in the last few months?
Is it stilover who is trying to sell his very nice STI at the moment? He's after £12,500 for a younger car with some very nice (non-chav) mods and hasn't had even a nibble. It's entirely likely that any dealer buying any Impreza at the moment is going to have it sitting on his forecourt for a long time. You gotta be realistic.
10 August 2008 | 12:36 AM
#24
I think if you had been buying the new one with no trade in you would have got £4k off list based on the px price you were given !
10 August 2008 | 01:17 PM
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10 August 2008 | 01:41 PM
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Have a look at this and weep:
Motor Depot Car Supermarket | Buy New & Used subaru impreza cars at Motor Depot Car Supermarkets
Expensive fuel, crap housing market, depressed economy = Huge depreciation on performance cars.
My Bosses M5, 55 Plate. bought 9 months ago for 48K. today he is looking at early 30's. Thats a HIT! 18MPG doesnt halp i guess!
Motor Depot Car Supermarket | Buy New & Used subaru impreza cars at Motor Depot Car Supermarkets
Expensive fuel, crap housing market, depressed economy = Huge depreciation on performance cars.
My Bosses M5, 55 Plate. bought 9 months ago for 48K. today he is looking at early 30's. Thats a HIT! 18MPG doesnt halp i guess!
