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Old 28 August 2008, 09:50 AM
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Question Increase from 265 to 315bhp?

Mate of mine has decided to buy an EVO FQ300 (to55er)

I have an MY04 wrx ppp with 265bhp.

what can i do to boost to 315 or more bhp?

Old 28 August 2008, 10:04 AM
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I would go for the following mods to crack 300bhp, STi tmic, sti injectors, decat downpipe, decat up pipe, vf34 or vf35 turbo and a tek remap.

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Old 28 August 2008, 10:08 AM
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sell a kidney first
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sell the WRX and buy a STI
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Originally Posted by Cocker
sell the WRX and buy a STI
...what he said....

Its been said over and over and always causes arguments - but why start with a slower base car than you need to? Obviously if things happen over time, or you have to do an engine rebuild its a little different and makes more financial sense; but if you just want more power, just buy a more powerful standard car in the first place.

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Old 28 August 2008, 11:24 AM
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My car wrx 03 is running 311bhp 317lbs/ft.

Decat u/p.
Prodrive sportcat d/p.
Andy F td04 hybrid.
All with std injectors, intercooler etc..

Mapped by JGM.
Old 28 August 2008, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by jods
Mate of mine has decided to buy an EVO FQ300 (to55er)

I have an MY04 wrx ppp with 265bhp.

what can i do to boost to 315 or more bhp?

Far from being a "to55er" chances are his car will still be quicker than yours even when you've got 315bhp!
It's not unusual for the 300 to be putting out closer to 320 and with lower gearing and lighter weight, you're going to have to be looking at 340+ maybe.
My sons FQ 320 totally standard, came off the rollers with 347.
Not sure what the safe power limit is of the WRX internals but the FQ will handle 380+?
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Old 28 August 2008, 11:30 AM
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You would also need to get better handling and brakes on your car as well.
Old 28 August 2008, 11:41 AM
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Ah, the old keeping up with the Jones's

Financially it would make more sense to get an STi. Not really because of the engine internals (which will cope with 350bhp just fine if the right supporting mods and 1st class mapping is applied), more because of the better gearbox, suspension and and brakes, which you'd need to change on the WRX.

I'm a hippocrite though, as I've spent the last 4 years modding a UK classic!
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Originally Posted by Cocker
sell the WRX and buy an EVO FQ320
Edited for accuracy
Old 28 August 2008, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Prasius
...what he said....

Its been said over and over and always causes arguments - but why start with a slower base car than you need to? Obviously if things happen over time, or you have to do an engine rebuild its a little different and makes more financial sense; but if you just want more power, just buy a more powerful standard car in the first place.
Exactly, especially with the way prices are going for used models, you'd be better off selling your wrx for 6k and buying an sti ppp for 8k (or whatever). It will cost a lot more than 2k to make up the differences.

I've also got a modded WRX, but honestly, I wish I had started with an STI.
Old 28 August 2008, 02:03 PM
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You would also need to get better handling and brakes on your car as well.
Why, will the hike in power spit him off the road? The OP might just want the straight line bragging rights, as generally speaking, the person who is faster point to point is the one who drives like a tosser and puts others at risk

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Originally Posted by Brun
Why, will the hike in power spit him off the road?
No but an evo will come with better brakes and suspension than a standard wrx.
Old 28 August 2008, 02:14 PM
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- i agree with what's been said already - buy an STi and save the need to throw a load of money at the WRX
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Originally Posted by jods
Mate of mine has decided to buy an EVO FQ300 (to55er)

I have an MY04 wrx ppp with 265bhp.

what can i do to boost to 315 or more bhp?

going through this process currently, I bought a MY55 WRX PPP, modding as follows :- decat uppipe, prodrive sportscat downpipe, RCM catback, STi intercooler and scoop, green panel filter, VTA, VF35 turbo, STi pinks, walbro fuel pump and a BR remap. Excpected power somewhere around 320bhp.

Some of this has been done, the major work like the turbo/injectors etc will be done the day before the map, I can let you know how I get on if you like.

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Old 28 August 2008, 08:24 PM
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throw abit of extra fuel & dawes device it to 1.5bar thats only if u wana go the economical way
Old 28 August 2008, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by IainMilford
going through this process currently, I bought a MY55 WRX PPP, modding as follows :- decat uppipe, prodrive sportscat downpipe, RCM catback, STi intercooler and scoop, green panel filter, VTA, VF35 turbo, STi pinks, walbro fuel pump and a BR remap. Excpected power somewhere around 320bhp.

Some of this has been done, the major work like the turbo/injectors etc will be done the day before the map, I can let you know how I get on if you like.
Deffo like to know your impressions of the improvement, also how much wonga it set you back !!!
Old 29 August 2008, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by jods
Deffo like to know your impressions of the improvement, also how much wonga it set you back !!!
the price? no more than £2.5k ... dont tell my missus!
Old 29 August 2008, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by jods
Mate of mine has decided to buy an EVO FQ300 (to55er)

I have an MY04 wrx ppp with 265bhp.

what can i do to boost to 315 or more bhp?

Buy this, https://www.scoobynet.com/private-sa...i-type-uk.html My pals FQ330 cant keep up!!
Old 29 August 2008, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by fonzy
Buy this, https://www.scoobynet.com/private-sa...i-type-uk.html My pals FQ330 cant keep up!!
That's a nice car. If it had PFF7's it would be identical to mine!
I'm surprised a FQ330 struggles with it, though. It's the way each car delivers the power that makes a difference. When my car had 340 I had to wait to 3200-3300 before it woke up. My sons IX FQ320 pulled like a train from just 2500. So much more responsive on a motorway in 6th
Shame you're parting with it. It'll take the four of you but it's all the hardware that goes with it - toys, cleaning wipes etc - then there's the kids stuff!

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Old 29 August 2008, 12:52 PM
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Buy an Evo
Old 30 August 2008, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Cocker
sell the WRX and buy a STI
STI has the same BHP and is heavier innit though?
Old 30 August 2008, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by IainMilford
the price? no more than £2.5k ... dont tell my missus!
Niiiiiice - I'll be £350 a month better off from Sept after paying off a £15K credit card bill so that will go towards spanking the bollocks off the scoob upgrade wise - will hoy it onto the VA Amex to get the airmiles though.

Lighter flywheel, racing cam, lightweight driveshaft, uprated turbo etc etc

COME ON!!!!!!!
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that must have taken you a while to pay off ........... !

thing is, you dont have to go mad to start making a real difference. Just by upgrading the exhaust and uppipe removes most of the turbo lag which I found a real pain in the backside with the PPP fitted. I've managed to get some good deals on parts from my local dealer which has helped with the ££££'s
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Originally Posted by JohnD
That's a nice car. If it had PFF7's it would be identical to mine!
I'm surprised a FQ330 struggles with it, though. It's the way each car delivers the power that makes a difference. When my car had 340 I had to wait to 3200-3300 before it woke up. My sons IX FQ320 pulled like a train from just 2500. So much more responsive on a motorway in 6th
Shame you're parting with it. It'll take the four of you but it's all the hardware that goes with it - toys, cleaning wipes etc - then there's the kids stuff!

JohnD
Mine pulls from around 3000-3100, I suppose a mix of a £1000 Milltek exhaust, ported headers and Andy F's magic touch.

Your right all 4 of us fit in but it all the prams, etc.. that take up all the room!! Going for a 4x4, hopefully manage to stay away from a scoobie for a year at least.

Cheers

Allan

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Originally Posted by jods
Deffo like to know your impressions of the improvement, also how much wonga it set you back !!!
all done! mapped today by the man himself Bob Rawle

well pleased with the result - knocking on 340 bhp
Old 27 September 2008, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by fonzy
Buy this, https://www.scoobynet.com/private-sa...i-type-uk.html My pals FQ330 cant keep up!!
They don't do an FQ330 do they?
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Originally Posted by RJM25R
They don't do an FQ330 do they?
LOL cant believe none of us picked up on that until now

thought we were meant to know what we're on about ..........
Old 28 September 2008, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by IainMilford
all done! mapped today by the man himself Bob Rawle

well pleased with the result - knocking on 340 bhp
Awesome - can you PM me the details of what work you had done / costs and also tel nos of the place(s) the did the work (If near Hertfordshire)

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there is an fq330.

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