rickya

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As per title EVO magazine has a feature of Litchfields new MY08 JDM Sti Type 20 that has been fettled to produce 395bhp & 375lb/ft torque & 0 to 60 mph in 3.9 sec! On sale at £37k.

I like it & was interested in their new bigger twin scroll turbo fitted to this, but I think when the time comes Il probably want a bigger turbo than this one!!

PICKLE

£37k for an Impreza!!!!!!!!!

Whatever next. Could get a decent car for that sort of money

rickya

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It has got completley revised suspension including adjustable AST's; Alcon 6 pot brakes; Miltek exhaust; revised steering rack; wheels; Miltek exhaust; new turbo; induction & remapped ECU.

corradoboy

I'm afraid for that money I'd be looking at a brand new BMW 335D SE M-Sport. Achievable 45+mpg, 30-70 in 3.3s (faster than M5) and some luxury and comfort to boot. Throw another few hundred at a remap and 350/500+ will bring lots of smiles. My mate whom went from an 04 T20 to a 335D hasn't looked back, and on a rolling start he annihilated a 400bhp Scoob, although the Scoob scampered into the distance a little in the twisties If I could afford to run a T20 purely as a toy and could pick one up secondhand for £12k or so then yes, but real world every day use it isn't worth the cash IMHO. I'm sure it is awesome, and having driven T20 and T25's in the Blobeye shape I know just how good they are, but they aren't £40k cars I'm afraid.

JonMc

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It's in Total Impreza too. A lot of money, but a good package none-the-less.

ATEOTD you pays your money......

Chris.B

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corradoboy - Has just about summed it up nicely there!

£37k Impreza...

Moley

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Still on a par with most Evo X's price wise, but a much better spec.

Infact the Evo which would be closest will be the FQ400, but that is supposed to be the best part of £45k apparently

boxsterboy

my type 25 460 bhp. would monster just about anything! worth 40k all day long.

AndyC_772

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...and how many of those have you seen on the road?

For 37k I'd be looking at a 1 yr old RS4, and in a year or two you'll be able to get a Nissan GT-R for that. No contest.

corradoboy

Caterham Cars - Designed for racing, built for living

Porsche Cayman money too. Like the idea of an RS4 too

martwrxsl

Not a second hand standard rs6. Which is a family estate car.

Budgie

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sod all this talk
sidc have a track day in feb at brands hatch indy
bring them along, diesels and all
and lets see whats best

budgie

any takers?

T5NYW

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I own a MY06 Type 20 and have driven the 08 Type 20 TBH the 08 T20 would seriously whooop my scoobs 4rse

The handling/chassis and steering on the new STD Hatch left a lot to be desired

IIRC Litcho replaces all the bushes and Re-Jets the steering rack.

18" wheels and nice large front brake better Turbo and induction Plus all the normal T20 bits n bobs.

https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...long-read.html

IIRC IMHO

Tony

jasonius

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That's virtually twice as much as my WRX was new inc similar mods (T25 suspension AP's, 18" OZ's full s/s exhaust, remap (inc mods)..lol..;

As much as I hate to say this, £37 grand is ridiculous for any impreza, just look at the residuals, image and now dwindling prestige with no SWRT. Add this to a shape nobody really likes...

If I had that kind of money I would definitely be after a nearly new GT-r..

BTW EVO still 'only' gave it 4.5 stars..!

AndyC_772

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How would that tell you what's "best"?

Outside of competitive motorsport or the pages of Max Power, I doubt many people equate "best car" with "quickest lap time".

Spooky Mulder

That'll be why it is so expensive - it has TWO Miltek exhausts

XRS

I don't know why people are so surprised that an Impreza could cost £37k. IIRC there were P1s that cost this much nearly 10 years ago. Also 22Bs when new, not to mention the T25s (with a few extras )

JonMc

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Like I said yesterday, it's your money so you spend how you will. Would I buy a MY08 T20, probably not as I would prefer to do the work myself. That's not to say I wouldn't spend £37K on an Impreza, I like them as cars and it is just my toy. If I wanted a sensible family car, to replace the daily runaround Renault Scenic, that had had some oomph I'd probably buy a Zafira VXR or GSI. Yes the RS4s and RS6s are great cars, but as a daily runner, too extreme to be practical when you look at everything ie servcing, parts costs, insurance, fuel etc etc, and the same with BMW, Mercedes etc. It all comes down to your own choice of marque

GazTheHat

Just read it on the plane home last night. Impressive, but wander how much it would cost to bolt on the bits yourself.

What happens if/when the Spec C comes out, will it not supercede this T20, or will it be the new base?

rickya

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Cant really compare a RS4/BMW 335d/ etc IMO to a souped up Licho Sti Type 20. Like Budgie said, bring 335d or even an RS4 on a track & I dont think it would keep up after a few turns, especially on a tight twisty circuit.

But saying that Audis & BMW excel in other departments.

Whether its worth £37k is a matter of opinion & its not fair to compare a new £37k car to other used cars. I do though thinky Moley is right in comparing it to other similarly priced Mitsu Evo's, then this car makes more sense.

dunx

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Said 335D also spent all day flashing warning lights at it's owner...

WYIOC Tan Hill Pub run 2008.

dunx

T5NYW

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Iain has never mentioned prices to me this is a Total guesstimate but i would be looking at fitted prices of

Suspension, AR bars and Uprated bushes £2.5k
Brakes £1.5K
Turbo, injectors, headers raised & induction £3K
Exhaust and remap £1.5K
Steering Rejetting £.5K
Wheels and tyres £2K

About £11+VAT fitted so about parts £7-8K + remap + alignment +VAT maybe

Previous T20/25 models you could have it in either STi, Spec C or A-line models which ever you prefered

IMHO IIRC
A well known scooby member took his BMW CSL to last years SIDC triple club day @ Brands Hatch and he struggled. But perhaps at silverstone it would be a different kettle of fish

IMHO IIRC

Tony

boxsterboy

What is the weight of the car? autocar said it was 1355kg drivers republic say 1480kg?

Subaru Impreza Litchfield Type-20 - Road Test First Drive - Autocar.co.uk

Driver's Republic - Super Specials 034

juggers

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I think the New type 20 is worth every penny, dont know why people say daft things such as i'd get a rs4 etc as i doubt any car on the road would match it's performance in that price region.

Yes you might get a 996 turbo for that sort of money but it's dated and looks ****e compared to the 997.

Robocop

I spotted the same mistake. There is no way the new STi weighs 1355kg. That's about what the MY03 Spec C weighed roughly.

Subaru's website list the MY08 STi at 1505Kg. I don't know about the JDM version with all the extra fitted (keyless go, Recaros etc), but taking off 20Kg for the Miltek (as stated in the article) gives it a power/weight ratio of 266bhp/tonne, which is not far off the MY06 Spec Type 20.

T5NYW

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It certainly seems to go better than Spec C's i've tried but as said can't beat lighter even when Power/weight ratio are the same

I would like to compare it to a RA-R

Tony

MrRA

I think most people are missing the point here.

Yes it's a lot of money, but, the people who buy these cars are either all out enthusiasts who want the best performance that their money could buy and nothing else or they want an Impreza as a weekend toy to sit next to the supercars they have parked in their garage.

I'm an enthusiast and drive my RA-R everyday because thats the driving experience I want at this moment in time. I paid a silly amount of money for the car and sometimes I do question whether I should go to something a bit more sensible, but then a few miles of B road will present itself to me and I remind myself why I bought it.

New_scooby_04

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Just one problem with that, mate.

1) It's a BMW!!!
2) Buying a Diesel makes you look light a tight wad!

I know, I know, they're really good these days, but say I've got an M5 and people will give you a nod

But if you say...

they'll ask you to please sit next to someone else!

MrRA

Never understood why somebody who is in a position to spend £35-£40k on a car would then worry about running costs and go for the diesel option.

I don't care how good modern diesels are becoming they will never give the drive that a petrol engine can give.

But if changing gear at around 3,500-4,000rpm is your thing then carry on!

corradoboy

With the torque available from modern diesels giving quite amazing mid-range grunt, diesels are often the better drivers option. The 330D is noticeable faster than a 330i in gear. There's only one race genre in which 0-60 is relevant and that's the drag-strip, but in real life nobody drives like that. We all however travel long distances without stopping at varying speeds for the vast majority of our everyday driving journeys, so a car which maximises potential at these speeds is ideal. If Subaru pulled their finger out and realised that there is a massive market sat waiting for a 500+ lb/ft AWD car with great handling that can do the 30-70 sprint in 3s but still achieve 40+mpg and dodge current eco-bull**** taxation then they'd sell a few cars. The longer this economic crisis continues the bleaker their outlook gets unless they adapt to the market. I loved my Impreza, but after 3 years of fun I simply could not justify the costs of keeping it, but I would have another, and would love to be in the fortunate position of owning a special such as the T20 or maybe RA-R, but it would be a 2nd car with something more sensible for daily duties. However, if it is going to be a 2nd car, then why not an Atom, R500 or whatever which are significantly faster for similar money, and have massively better residual values.