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Old 16 January 2009 | 06:07 PM
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While I accept there are many different levels ok knowledge amongst petrol heads, I myself am no car genius and ask stupid questions sometimes, I found this nothing less than dumbfounding

I was having a bit of banter with a young lad at work about his chavved up corsa being a bag of bolts etc and his comment was...

"Yeah but really when you buy a subaru your just wishing you could afford a porsche, what have subaru ever built that was any good except the impreza"

I didnt know where to start

1. the fact that porsches arent even remotely similar to subarus
2. the fact that subaru have a miles bigger range than porsche, the 911 is the laziest piece of design in history

Some people need an education in all things automotive.

anywho, rant over
Old 16 January 2009 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Ianm1983
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"what have subaru ever built that was any good except the impreza"
One word for him JUSTY!!
Old 16 January 2009 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Timwinner
One word for him JUSTY!!


I say an old Porsche on the ice last weekend (911 turbo), it looked as it kept up with a RA. Until one back tyre peeled off the rim (rally tyres)

Having said that they might be the best sports car around, but imo Imprezas are up with the best all round performance cars. And bang for the buck what beats a STi?
Old 16 January 2009 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Ianm1983
2. the fact that subaru have a miles bigger range than porsche, the 911 is the laziest piece of design in history
Let's see:
Porsche (Boxster, Cayman, 911, Cayenne, Panamera - soon, Carrera GT - not sure if this is still being made, maybe not). So that's 4-6 models.

Subary (Justy, Impreza, Forester, Tribeca and Legacy). So that's 5.

Obviously a miles bigger range

Asthetically, the 911 is lazy, however the design and engineering of the car itself is excellent and far better than anything Subaru have done. To be expected as they are somewhat more expensive of course so not really comparing apples with apples. Anyway, it doesn't matter what anyone drives, there's always seen to be some sort of "pecking order" (normally dicatated by price and badge rather than anything else) so no-one ever wins unless they've got a Veyron

Anyway, sounds like you were slagging his car, wound him up so to be expected, he hit back and you don't like it. You enjoy your car and let him enjoy his.
Old 16 January 2009 | 07:57 PM
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Full Subaru range is

Impreza,Legacy,Dex,Stella,R2,R1,Pleo,Sambar,Forest er,Tribeca,Justy (ok not all avaliable over here tbh
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We don't live in Japan (or anywhere else for that matter) so for all intents and purposes their range is the 5 models they sell here.
Old 16 January 2009 | 08:28 PM
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Old 16 January 2009 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Dracoro
We don't live in Japan (or anywhere else for that matter) so for all intents and purposes their range is the 5 models they sell here.
not strictly true, ask the jdm boys. Sure you could get any model if you wanted to.
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Originally Posted by Dracoro
We don't live in Japan (or anywhere else for that matter) so for all intents and purposes their range is the 5 models they sell here.
ok so that would be Justy,Impreza,Legacy, Outback (forgot to mention that one),Tribeca,Forester

So actually more as the Panamera isn't out yet (don't even think it's started production) the Carrera GT hasn't been made for a couple of years

I mentioned the other Subaru cars as a humourous/tongue in check comment of the actual variety of Subarus avaliable

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you answer should have been The Legacy

On April 23, 1998, a Subaru Legacy set a new world speed record for mass-produced turbocharged station wagons (1600cc–2000cc class), clocking 270.532km/h over one kilometer on Highway 10 in La Junta, Colorado. This record was previously set by a Generation II Subaru Legacy in 1993 at 249.981 km/h.

ALSO.......
World Rally Championship
The Legacy was campaigned by Subaru in the WRC, with the help of Prodrive, beginning in 1990. It wasn't considered a truly competitive model at first, but showed promise under the command of Markku Alen, who in 1991 managed a third-place finish at the Swedish Rally. 1992 debuted the combination of experienced Group B, Pikes Peak International Hillclimb, and WRC driver Ari Vatanen, paired with the up-and-coming Scotish driver Colin McRae for Subaru's WRC effort. Two second place finishes, one by each driver, strengthened the commitment of Subaru to WRC, the Legacy, and their drivers.

1993 became a breakout year for Subaru as Colin McRae and Ari Vatanen pushed the Legacy to a third place finish at the Swedish Rally and a one-two placing after the first leg of the Acropolis Rally. Prodrive boss David Richards was eager to prove the potential of the new Impreza WRC car, but was charged with gaining a victory in the Legacy before the Impreza could debut. At Round 8, Subaru finally struck gold when McRae managed to hold back Francois Delecour in his Ford Escort for the win. This would be the last WRC event for the Legacy, as the Impreza debuted at the following event, where it placed second in the hands of Vatanen.

Richard Burns was successful in numerous events with the car during 1992 before joining the World Rally team to drive the Impreza in 1993. Alister McRae, Per Eklund, Possum Bourne and Hannu Mikkola also competed in the Legacy during its WRC participation.

When it comes to motorsports everyone remembers the impreza but forget the poor ol legacy

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Old 16 January 2009 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by myblackwrx
ok so that would be Justy,Impreza,Legacy, Outback (forgot to mention that one),Tribeca,Forester
Can't include the Outback, it's a jacked up Legacy is it not? For the same reason, the audi A6 allroad is still an A6 and not a different model.
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Originally Posted by Dracoro
Can't include the Outback, it's a jacked up Legacy is it not? For the same reason, the audi A6 allroad is still an A6 and not a different model.

tbh i'm not sure i though it was actually a seperate model.
Old 16 January 2009 | 11:17 PM
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It's on the subaru website, basically a legacy jacked an butched up a little, much like the A6 allroad.
Old 16 January 2009 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Ianm1983
While I accept there are many different levels ok knowledge amongst petrol heads, I myself am no car genius and ask stupid questions sometimes, I found this nothing less than dumbfounding

I was having a bit of banter with a young lad at work about his chavved up corsa being a bag of bolts etc and his comment was...

"Yeah but really when you buy a subaru your just wishing you could afford a porsche, what have subaru ever built that was any good except the impreza"

I didnt know where to start

1. the fact that porsches arent even remotely similar to subarus
2. the fact that subaru have a miles bigger range than porsche, the 911 is the laziest piece of design in history

Some people need an education in all things automotive.

anywho, rant over
Who's porsche, their cars were the ****est handling rust buckets until recent whatever model 911's.
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when did a 911 win the network q ?
Old 17 January 2009 | 02:39 AM
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I think he pwned you, lol
Old 17 January 2009 | 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Ianm1983
"Yeah but really when you buy a subaru your just wishing you could afford a porsche, what have subaru ever built that was any good except the impreza"
Thats like saying , "yeah but really when you buy a vw beetle, youre just wishing you could afford a subaru...."

No logic at all , totally different cars... often used for totally different purposes...ie impreza - base rally car, 911 grand tourer.....

You should have gone back to him and said, "when you buy a corsa, youre just wishing you could afford a ferrari, because they both have an engine..."
Old 17 January 2009 | 04:04 AM
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This site id full of people who know nowt about Subarus, but that doesnt stop them spouting b*llocks!
Old 17 January 2009 | 08:38 AM
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Don't worry, you get these ejits everywhere. One lad who knew I had a UK turbo and knew I had a fair amount of knowledge still attempted to tell me his Impreza was running 350BHP.

All I said was "I didn't know turbos came with drum brakes?"

Enough said.
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