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Old 28 March 2009, 03:02 PM
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As above took a trip to wellingborough today as i normally do in my dodgy old escort van armed with 4 x 20litre jerry cans. Its about a 60mile round trip for me so i like to get plenty. As im just about to finish filling the fourth can a stroppy woman from morrisons gave me a good telling off about how im breaking the law and its a two can maximum.
She then went on to tell me that my reg number had been taken and i wouldnt be allowed to buy it again.

So just a freindly warning, they are getting hot on how much you buy in cans and the type of cans used.

I think ive got a solution for myself, But dont be suprised if you go armed with cans and dont get what you want.

Mel
Old 28 March 2009, 03:13 PM
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I think its there rules a lot of the time.....but i am sure i read somewhere that the max you can carry leggaly without a hazchem sticker or something like that was 2 5litre or 1 20 litre can at any 1 time...nothing to stop you fitting a extra tank into the back of your van as long as the tank(lorry fuel tanks are good)is bolted down securlery to the floor and has a proper cap..the cap dont need to be a locking type.....
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thats exactly what i intend to do. i only really use the van to keep a few tools in and store my e85. im going to buy a tank from a scrappy with filler neck and cap. bolt it in the back and cut a hole in the side for the filler neck. then i just turn up and fill the tank in the back through the filler neck from out side. I may even look into an old lorry tank because there normally a more squareish shape so easier to fit in and maybe more capacity 200litre maybe.
Old 28 March 2009, 05:20 PM
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LOL, I bought £200 worth at Shell and no-one batted an eyelid, only probs i had was the auto cut off after 100 litres lol

Oh and the queue haha they was not happy.
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Me and my brother had this problem in Dundee, he told use we were only allowed 1 20litr jerry can, they never banned us though, that's harsh. I suppose there's nothing stoping you buying 1 can then paying, driving round the block then filling up another, and so on and so on........
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Originally Posted by bluenose172
Me and my brother had this problem in Dundee, he told use we were only allowed 1 20litr jerry can, they never banned us though,
i think thats cos i asked where it said that i could only have two cans . she said it was written on a sticker in the office. i replied i hadnt been in there yet so how could i have possible seen it and that maybe it should be written outside on the pumps. im still going to go back with my fuel tank bolted in the back. lol

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They did the same thing in there to me but I said yes I am aware of the 2 jerry can rule for petrol but this was E85 which is not petrol. i suggested she went inside and checked, which she did and then she came back out and said that's fine
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What is the rule for E85 Duncan?
Old 28 March 2009, 06:21 PM
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I have no idea.

But luckily nor did they
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Originally Posted by dynamix
They did the same thing in there to me but I said yes I am aware of the 2 jerry can rule for petrol but this was E85 which is not petrol. i suggested she went inside and checked, which she did and then she came back out and said that's fine

I went down this route as well and was told be her the same rules applied to E85 as to unleaded because according to her E85 contained unleaded. This again i refuted as it would then not be a bio fuel.

although i dont know whether it does or doesnt have a touch of unleaded in it?

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Old 28 March 2009, 06:30 PM
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so, can you fill up 4 jerry cans in one go? or is discretion down to station? i want to use this but confused how much you can buy
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Originally Posted by stealthy55
so, can you fill up 4 jerry cans in one go? or is discretion down to station? i want to use this but confused how much you can buy
Nope i was told only 2 cans, although it wasnt mentioned to me how big or small the cans had to be. she was also checking they were petrol approved cans.

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Old 28 March 2009, 06:34 PM
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If she was polite and had just made you aware why you couldn't buy the amount you required that would have been fine, but I wouldn't have taken a telling off like you described from a woman that works in a garage.
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does seem hard work getting e85, is it worth going to methanol?
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Originally Posted by TerzoAlan
If she was polite and had just made you aware why you couldn't buy the amount you required that would have been fine, but I wouldn't have taken a telling off like you described from a woman that works in a garage.
I agree. im happy to be made aware of the rules. It was the marching up behind me with a face like thunder telling me what a bad law breaker i was that offended me.


But i now know the rules and will address it. I look forward to what will be said when i have a lorry tank bolted in the back. lol
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Yes it has 15% unleaded in it. Using that argument you have raised the limit to about 14 jerry cans
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Originally Posted by Turbotits
I agree. im happy to be made aware of the rules. It was the marching up behind me with a face like thunder telling me what a bad law breaker i was that offended me.


But i now know the rules and will address it. I look forward to what will be said when i have a lorry tank bolted in the back. lol
That's the ideal solution.
Old 28 March 2009, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TerzoAlan
That's the ideal solution.


Infact maybe i should put a big f**k off tank in the back and start delivering to people that need it. lol
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if you put an orange hazchem sticker on the front and back of your van, put a fire extinguisher in the footwell and you can carry up to 800ltrs (4 barrels) without an adr licence

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Originally Posted by al02uk
if you put an orange hazchem sticker on the front and back of your van, put a fire extinguisher in the footwell and you can carry up to 800ltrs (4 barrels) without an adr licence

Andy
cool already have the extinguisher so just some stickers
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You are also required to have an emergency action plan, which will basically say in the event of a spill, call 999 then the environent agency. just print it out on a bit of a4 and keep it in the glovebox.
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