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Old 07 March 2002, 11:22 AM
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I understand that now but I didn't bother opening the tax renewal because I didn't need to I know I am probably stupid but I didn't want anyone else getting caught the way I did. I drive a company car (hence why its been off the road so long) and don't normally have to bother with tax etc so I got caught out
Old 07 March 2002, 11:24 AM
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The SORN is to stop the scum from not taxing there cars and leaving the rest of us to foot the bill. It is the only way to actually catch people who don't pay there road tax.
Sounds like you forgot to do it. My sympathies to you for getting "done" but why didn't you complete a SORN?
Old 07 March 2002, 11:26 AM
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aaah, that explains it. In that case, I have some sympathy

It's a nasty shock coming from owning a company car - loads of colleagues are doing it, and are shocked that things don't just happen automatically. "You mean the garage doesn't tax it for me when I get it serviced" was one recent outburst from a colleague.

I'd grit your teeth and pay up, as you could have been fined a lot more. I think the leaflet says £1000 or thereabouts.

At least it's not too painful - and hopefully others may learn from your misfortune.
Old 07 March 2002, 11:31 AM
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Thats all I was doing was trying to let everyone know because I didn't Don't know how many people on here have company cars own cars etc.
Old 07 March 2002, 11:34 AM
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Regarding the 'hacking' into DVLA computers. I mean, how paranoid are you? your insurance/dvla etc. have your home address where your car was b4, your work address, cars vin, security system etc.
BTW, if your car isn't taxed/sorned then I think the insurance is invalid anyway!
Old 07 March 2002, 11:37 AM
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The car isnt at any of known addresses and because I dont drive it I cancelled the insurance anyway so that wouldn't matter. I know I am paranoid but you never now do you?
Old 07 March 2002, 11:44 AM
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Thats proper harsh mate. you wanna pay the fine, get the grale fixed, then go to the DVLA carpark and dark it up good and proper. May I suggest several rings of black rubber outside main reception?
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Old 07 March 2002, 11:49 AM
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Bloody good idea m8

I am gonna pay it and eventually get the bloody car fixed (girlfriends orders) and get it back on the road.
Old 07 March 2002, 01:03 PM
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Hey astraboy, coming from you that's pretty restrained revenge, no?
Old 07 March 2002, 01:18 PM
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heh, he could also leave some roadkill on the front step
There. Hows that?
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Old 07 March 2002, 01:24 PM
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If it is any concilasion I am sure anyone with the knowledge to hack into the DVLA computer system wouldn't be nicking cars!

Or am I stereotyping...
Old 07 March 2002, 01:34 PM
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paulpalmer:

" because of things like the recent events? "

It cant get jacked if the engine is blown up!
Old 07 March 2002, 01:43 PM
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but it can have the handbrake cable cut and winched onto a flatbed.
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Old 07 March 2002, 01:48 PM
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My thoughts exactly

I didn't mean car jacking I meant break ins to get cars etc
Old 07 March 2002, 03:03 PM
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To hopefully clear up the hacking issue:

The DVLA are a government department, this means no external (ie Internet) access and no dial-in access. All network access is tightly restricted and the databases are housed on systems at a high security data-centre.

Just getting into the main building is a nightmare, to hack in to the systems would take more effort than it's worth for finding out where laid-up cars are.

Hope this puts your mind at rest.

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Old 07 March 2002, 03:05 PM
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Thankyou. I can't be the only worried on here though can I?
Old 07 March 2002, 03:37 PM
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Paul,

How many insurance companies did you phone for a quotation? They probably know your age, location, car, modifications, whether its garaged, ...

To me THAT'S a lot more of a worry than the DVLA. Although I still sleep at nights

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Old 07 March 2002, 03:44 PM
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No one knows where my car is, I keep it somewhere neutral and it has 24 hour surveylance (sp) camera on it (for what good it would do!!!). I have been that way on purpose. Didn't think of it about the insurance companies though. I was just paranoid and stupid really don't know why I both really if it got nicked I wouldn't have to fix it
Old 03 July 2002, 11:05 AM
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Yesterday I got a letter from the DVLA because my car is untaxed. OK I thought not to worry because the car has been parked in the same spot since the engine blew last year and is in a private car park. I opened the letter to find that I am being fined for not telling them where my car is I didn't want to tell them where my car is incase anyone hacks into their database looking for "decent" cars that are layed up (I own an integrale and its probably worth something to someone) this letter was the most patronising (sp) piece of **** to fall through my letter box and states that I now have to pay £25 out of court settlement [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] this kind of thing really p1sses me off. 1 week before the engine blew up I bought 6 months tax and didn't even bother returning it bloody wish I had now!. Does anyone agree on here about not wanting anyone to know where they keep their car (if not at their address) because of things like the recent events? I am writing a letter to these b*stards complaining about the system because I think its ****. The tosser I spoke to on the phone said their databases couldn't be hacked but I wouldn't like to say that anything is un-hackable would you? sorry if I don't make much sense but I am soooooo angry [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
Off to punch some small blokes head in

[Edited by paulpalmer - 3/7/2002 11:07:17 AM]
Old 03 July 2002, 11:18 AM
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The DVLA *has* to know. Think about the situation if it didn't...

With every tax disc renewal that you've received for the past couple of years or more, there's been a leaflet about SORN - the STATUTORY off road notification. It tells you very clearly that you must inform the DVLA if your car is going to be off the road and not in need of tax.

Regarding hacking, there are much riper targets for hackers to try and get into. On the overall scheme of things, this is small fry stuff that will be exceedingly well protected. Staff collusion is the biggest worry.

Sorry, don't have much sympathy with this one.

[Edited by chiark - 3/7/2002 11:20:56 AM]
Old 03 July 2002, 11:28 AM
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medders

Didn't complete it because
A: I didn't know I *had* to
B: didn't want anyone knowing where the car was
C: Forgot about it really

my fault for ignoring post from the DVLA I s'pose

[Edited by paulpalmer - 3/7/2002 11:29:39 AM]
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