G-Man1982

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any ones on here any 1 reconise?





buying it for the engine tomorrow, long shot to find out any history on it.

thanks

53

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Phase 1 engine. How much are you paying ?

Darc174

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Thats not a STI engine

G-Man1982

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pm`d 53wrx

G-Man1982

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its a engine tho..... and other bits to sell!

Darc174

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Lol how much you paying for that wagon?

darc

G-Man1982

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£500

fastmike

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£500 is a bargain if the lumps ok..... and as its accident damaged it must have been running ok before the smash..... AND what a wealth of parts to sell off lol..... I can see you getting rich selling the bits off....

Splitpin

If you want something that'll drop into yours with the minimum of hassle that might not be what you're looking for. Is it a UK car or an import?

GMballistic

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...time to get that eBay account going

pikeywrx

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I dont mean to ruin it for you but have you heard it running? you cant assume that its ok because it was in an accident. Iv bought them before and they have been involved in an "accident" as the engine was nackered and the owner couldnt afford to fix it very dodgy!

On an upnote it will break for over 500 with out engine buddy

G-Man1982

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its a uk car same as mine. and ill have the talents of ESC`s finest... Mr Cluch chelmsford on the case lol

dj219957

if the engine is good then £500 is a bargin.

53

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What I was talking about before in buying the car that goes round the engine as well. I was going to buy this for example but lol I thought I would be bidding against a mate

subaru impreza 1994 wrx turbo wagon on eBay (end time 30-Aug-09 22:27:03 BST)

That doesn't look like an STi to me and it certainly won't have the STi ECU. £500 is a bargain if it works anything could be bent IMHO.

G-Man1982

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i see... i know it not a sti but for £500 notes there is enough to make back on bis and other little toys in it that mine have not got. as long as the engine is cool im fine as thats all i really need. theres no piston slap from cold, no smoke or nothing. i cant remember the miles but its clean underthere and looks like a "loved scoob" rather than a chaved scoob. (i know thats a contritiction as its been wrapped round a tree)

its being deliverd tomorrow and the mad 48hours im giving my self to strip it begins! (in a col-de-sac corner so some 1s bound to grass me up!!

scoobyricht

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i like those wheels....

Splitpin

They're probably not round anymore scoobyrich.

Scoobyman - are you going to transfer the top end of your old engine onto the new one?

G-Man1982

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was planning to swap the lot tbh mate... why that?

Splitpin

Because it looks like you've bought a phase 1 engine to go into a phase 1.5 car.

G-Man1982

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as long as it takes the wife kids n me shopping and i get to bumble about i dont really mind what phase engine it is!! lol

Splitpin

That's the point. If you don't get involved with a degree of messing about, that engine won't be taking you anywhere. If you think you're just going to drop that into your own car and connect everything up, you're in for a bit of a shock.

dj219957

it will fit but as above you will need to strip the new engine right back to the block and transfer your bits onto it.

G-Man1982

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in getting very confussed now... some people say its a swap, now others say otherwise.

help a geeza out. either way it will be done when ever has to be done. i just wanna understand.

cheers

Splitpin

53WRX pointed out that it was a phase 1 engine in the first reply to this thread, while I mentioned in post #9 that it wasn't the best choice if a hassle-free exchange was what you wanted. By then it seems you'd already gone ahead and bought the car, on the assumption that "an engine is a <sic> engine". Unfortunately that assumption was incorrect to begin with.

If "some people" have told you that this engine is a straight swap for your old one then you have either misunderstood, they've given you incorrect info, or possibly not been aware that you've bought an engine from an earlier model year of car.

To make that engine run in your car, at very least you will have to swap the inlet manifold, ignition system, turbo, probably power steering pump, sensors, engine loom. Pretty much, as DJ says, stripping it back to a long engine and transferring the appropriate parts over from your old one.

Even then I don't know enough about that vintage of engine to be certain whether there will be any mechanical incompatibilities. Your best bet is probably to click the search and see if anyone's done this conversion in the past. Edited to add: Doing a quick search myself suggests that the cams are different. If so you'd probably be looking at swapping your old '97 heads onto the "new" block. This could be a problem given both the growing length and complexity of the job, the add-in cost of new gaskets and other parts, and also depending on how your old engine has been damaged it might not be a practical way forward.

If you still have the opportunity to cancel the purchase of the scrapper that might be something worth considering. Starting with another 97/98 UK engine will give you much less of a headache.

G-Man1982

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As u would now realise i dont know the differences from phase 1 and phase 1.5 engines, so the #1 comment from 53wrx would and did obviously mean nothing to me other than an observation. No i have not already gone ahead and bought the car as i wanted to check it would fit.
The "some people" i have spoken with, some which work in a garage some which just own scoobs, like me prob dont know the differences between the 2. As them or myself are are Far from stupid this is obviously just a lack of knowlage regarding this issue. hence, asking questions on a forum of many people makes alot of sense!

Thankyou... the bit i was wanting to hear. Yet another scooby fact i have learned.

got there eventually!!

pikeywrx

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easiest way to tell the engines apart mate. the red one should have 4 different coil packs. and yours should have a single pack bolted onto your inlet.

Its not the be all and end all, it just means having to switch blocks. Its not an extremly hard job to switch it over.

If i was you id try waiting to here the engine when its warmed up as this is when its more likely to start playing up as obvously the oil warms up and gets thinner things start to slap about and head gasket etc.

Can i ask where abouts you are?

And if you have the spare cash and time and the engine is good id buy it any way as by the time you have broke it you would have doubled your money and some.

Good luck mate

Also i get gasket kits that iv never had a problem with yet for £54

G-Man1982

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thanks pikeywrx.... i have spoken to API who have told me how it is. pretty much said along the same lines as you. im going to go ahead with the wagon and make pennys off the bits i dont need to pay for the bits i do need!

I know theres other better options out there and easyer ways to do it, but for £500 im willing to take the risk. (as its the only option i have finacially)

thanks for all ya commets, i will keep you updated!

The Trooper 1815

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https://www.scoobynet.com/wales-26/7...ale-995-a.html

Better bargain here!

pikeywrx

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It is cheap but would still have same problem with engines

G-Man1982

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And its over 300 miles away from me! lol