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Old 04 October 2009, 11:30 PM
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with our beloved cars being taken form us against our will. i ask, is there anything we can do to aid in the prevention?
many of us have alarms, immobilisers and or trackers fitted, but is there more that we can do to keep our cars safe? the scum are even breaking into our homes to get keys.
i've been a victim once i don't want to be again!

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Old 04 October 2009, 11:52 PM
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If someone wants it that much they are going to get it IMO.
I have all of the above fitted on mine and sleep fine at night, if it goes it goes although I would rather it didn't lol.
When I'm at my dad's place we put his works van behind mine as an extra deterrent but aside from getting in my dos bag inside the car with some form of "self defence" not much else I can/will do.

*****Edited to add*****
Funnily enough when at my dad's they did break in but rather than take mine they took his work L200, seems it was easier to get the TV in his than mine.

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Old 05 October 2009, 12:18 AM
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Yup there is 1 way. Take the ECU out every night and put it in a hidden place in the house!
Old 05 October 2009, 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by cossie-nutter
Yup there is 1 way. Take the ECU out every night and put it in a hidden place in the house!
thats not a bad idea
Old 05 October 2009, 01:23 AM
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TBH i think it is a case of doing something like that but really i think i would be better being something more 'Visual'.

I had my corsa broken into a couple of months ago now, there was around 27 cars done that same night in my area. Most were windows smashed and grab what they could but mine seemed different, i had stupidly left the conversion docs for putting the redtop in my car and can only imagine they noticed these as they snapped the full steering wheel off trying to break the steering lock and had been fumbling about the wiring.

The replacement wheel i got was an aftermarket wheel and boss from a friend which i now every night remove and store in the house. I also have the bonnet catch removed and hidden somewhere in the car.

It's a sad day when we have to take drastic measures like these to protect our pride and joys but the even worse reality is the more we do the more of a 'challenge' we give the theiving f***s and to be honest i think this could in a way attract more attention a bit as if it gives them bragging rights to still be able to take it.

Personally the way i see it if the steering wheel is removed and the wheels turned full lock then it cant be as easilly dragged onto a transporter either and it's gonna be totally obvious BEFORE they smash your window and damage the car trying to take it.
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Originally Posted by cossie-nutter
Yup there is 1 way. Take the ECU out every night and put it in a hidden place in the house!
Would it not be easier just to do that with the keys?
Old 05 October 2009, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by cossie-nutter
Yup there is 1 way. Take the ECU out every night and put it in a hidden place in the house!
I used to do this while I was waiting to get an alarm fitted. It was a PFC though, and AFAIK there's no reason you shouldn't do this. If you do it with an OE one, it'll be relearning every day though won't it?
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A separate fuel cut-off will stop the users and abusers but not the "lifters"...

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Old 05 October 2009, 08:37 AM
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after just having this happen to me i seen to be going over and over what else i could do. But as said if they want it they will have it :-(
Old 05 October 2009, 08:52 AM
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Open the bonnet and disconnect one of the sensors if you are parking up for a time, cam sensor easy to get at on my classic.

I also have a Diskloc, eletronic mobiliser,alarm and it has a tracker....... hide the keys too if you are worried about them getting nicked from home.

That said if they really, i mean really, want a car they may offer you violence and then it is up to you to decide if you want to let them have the car or fight back.
Old 05 October 2009, 09:28 AM
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since my attempted theft (usual kick in the door by 3 guys) i have aquired alot more security at home, my drive is no longer a 2 car drive, it has a wall and gates now with my car on it and the missuses car blocking it in on the road...iv'e put a security post behind my car..disclock and cctv..thats all to go with my usual cat 1 alarm & immob and tracker.
i have also replaced my front door (which i had to) with a 'Rock door'...theres no way that will be kicked in.
but having said all that, away from home theres not alot i can do if someone wants to take it apart from blackjax i suppose. one things for sure though..this day and age if someone wants my keys they can have them..im sure as hell not risking my life for a car
Old 05 October 2009, 09:49 AM
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Theres one way a thief will take your car no matter what you do to it its called a HI-AB and believe me they do!
Old 05 October 2009, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Norman Dog
Would it not be easier just to do that with the keys?
Don't need keys to drive away the car, obviously it's easier.
Old 05 October 2009, 10:27 AM
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yeah but hi abs arnt exactly quick and unless your dead i am sure you would hear it unless your on holiday then why is the car not put somewhere more secure ?
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HIAB will trigger the tracker on mine, it's feckwits I'm stopping with a fuel supply mod that's totally indepedant of the immobiliser, so the keys are useless.

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Old 05 October 2009, 11:52 AM
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Buy a house with a garage or build a garage

I park mine in a alarmed garage and park my mums Discovery in front of the door.....

On the flipside if they want your car they will get it it's a piece of metal and can be replaced at the end of the day.
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ma mates sti got stolen a few yrs ago,they pushed 2 cars out the runway.took the garage door off and stole his sti,his bedroom window was open and it faces onto his runway and heard nothing,

so if these scum arsholes want ure pride and joy no matter what they will take it .
Old 05 October 2009, 12:22 PM
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f*k me that is extreme my car is locked in my lockup and theres a security gate at the front of that aswell plus i have clifford alarm with tracker and i take steering wheel home with me look a bit daft sometimes walking home with it in my hand my car is only across the road police drove past me late at night and stopped to see where i was going with a steering wheel in my hand lol they have got used to it now after being stopped several times and asked
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Originally Posted by Norman Dog
Would it not be easier just to do that with the keys?
Subaru's are P1SS EASY to nick without the keys! No ECU stop them from getting it started once they push it down the road so you will have more chance of it being dumped.

There is also other stuff you can disconnect in the engine bay as extra deterrent!
Old 05 October 2009, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by dunx
A separate fuel cut-off will stop the users and abusers but not the "lifters"...

dunx
Very true and that is another great way.

Perhaps I am lucky because I have a Motion sensor tracker so if the car moves or gets jacked up I will get a call asking whats going on and by that point soon as I say it's not me the police will be on there way.

I like the idea of the new motion tracker because TRACKER can watch it being driven on any road with speed and revs so they know where to guide the police to. Technology is so advanced now it's unreal!
Old 05 October 2009, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by shawn r
after just having this happen to me i seen to be going over and over what else i could do. But as said if they want it they will have it :-(
Any news fella ?
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unfortunatley not yet, just got off phone with insurance company, see wnere we go from there,
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Im getting a valet mode switch put on mine that would really mess them off
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Originally Posted by DamEscort
and it's gonna be totally obvious BEFORE they smash your window and damage the car trying to take it.
Until they realise they can't nick it so smash all the windows, bash and key every panel whilst slashing the 4 tyres. Then pour nitromors all over it for good measure.!!!!

It would be easier to let the baskets take it, saving you and your family from any harm and being left with a wrecked car that will probably get written off.
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Originally Posted by cossie-nutter
Subaru's are P1SS EASY to nick without the keys! No ECU stop them from getting it started once they push it down the road so you will have more chance of it being dumped.

There is also other stuff you can disconnect in the engine bay as extra deterrent!
Do they not need something like a replacement ecu and coded key to get it away, or are the immobilisers easily overcome?

Hopefully, I don't think mines that easily nicked..

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I'd quite happly give them my keys but they wouldn't get off my drive alive, Gun cabinet located close to where I sleep and bedroom overlooks the drive where it's parked

Cleaning the blood of my prodrive seats would be nightmare though!!!
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The "tech" is good, but apparently I live in a field....

'Cos the maps they use are four years out of date !

On mine you are allowed six free "Tracker Checks" a year as it's up to the owner to prove that the system was working at the time the vehicle was stolen, in the event of a claim.

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Originally Posted by Norman Dog
Do they not need something like a replacement ecu and coded key to get it away, or are the immobilisers easily overcome?

Hopefully, I don't think mines that easily nicked..

With that case they would either snip the hand brake cables on the car blocking it or get into the car and push it over the road out the way. If I was you I would have bigger gates and padlocki for them and a fold down post in the drive way.

immobilisers easily overcome mate.

I wont say on here again as I got shot down with flames last time ha ha But feel free to pm me!

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Originally Posted by Wurzel
Until they realise they can't nick it so smash all the windows, bash and key every panel whilst slashing the 4 tyres. Then pour nitromors all over it for good measure.!!!!

It would be easier to let the baskets take it, saving you and your family from any harm and being left with a wrecked car that will probably get written off.

Totally missing the point here i think..........yes ok they could do the damage to the car but the point is the thieving f***witts aren't having the pleasure of joyriding my car .


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