Following on from my the comments I have received and the reactions from my previous post

Has ScoobyNet become a feeding pit for dodgy suppliers and parasites who rip us off?

 

seems to be going that way but i do feel there are a hell of a lot decent and honest members still left and it is just a small minority who rip oter members off, its like anythink you always hear about the horro stories and never the good deals that go down with out any issue, so it makes it seem like this is a dodgy place to buy goods.

how many of us have bought used parts off members with no issues!!! i for one have never had a problem.

and how many of us have taken out cars to garages with no problems, and have nothing to say but good things!!! i again have had no issues.

although i would like to ask IB to try and come up with ways to make this a safer site to use, with people who rip others off being banned etc.

just my two bits

 

I agree with you. However, it is not just dodgy traders because there are also private people come on here with the deliberate intention of operating a scam and I feel the site should be pro-active in rooting out that type of behaviour. The problem regards traders is that the board is not properly policed and Scoobynet rules are broken by the unscrupulous without sanction. It seems to me that revenue takes precedence over fidelity.

 

sorry harvey i did mean both private sellers and traders.

 

I do agree that IB could do more, but they are, sadly, about making the most money in the shortest time, so do a lot of not much

 

Hi,
being in business since 1989 we at the clinic are somewhat bemused by the antic's of some so called traders, and private people masquerading as traders,they use all manner of tactic's to sell goods, some of them even offering advice with no experience or backup whatsoever.

Over the 22 years of tradeing we have many accounts with suppliers both here and abroad, some accounts in particular required photo's of workshops, references from other traders, copies of accounts, number of staff employed (18) etc.etc. after scruteny we become distributors of their product's, no bedroom dealers getting in.

This gives our customers backup with all products sold, technical advice if required or hands on help if you get stuck fitting a product, something that doesnt come from box shuffelers and bedroom dealers.

its about time traders were checked out to see if they are worthy of the traders badge, its happening with mapping now, time will tell.

Cheers
Kev
Scoobyclinic

 

All i got to say is check my trader feedback i would think if it had started from day one i would have a few more.. xxxx

 

I am not long on the site now and have met a few clowns.But Ive also had good guys who are genuine subaru enthusiasts with decency and respect for others.The clowns need sorted .

 

This is just my 2 pence worth. And just my opinun

Nobby we all get the jist you dont like the sellers on here. In which case simply dont buy anything and shut up about it we all got your point with your first thread if we had managed to get to the end with out forgetting how it started.

Yes you do occasionally get the odd thread off blah blah had my pants down alot off time it is sorted out and sometimes its not always the seller in wrong.

There are alot more good deals tht go on then bad its just the bad ones get there own thread.

I havent got a problem with people selling there bits on here (i wouldnt as i do so a bit biast)

But as for people offering advice and selling parts from there bedrooms etc EVERYONE has to start off some where i do not claim to know the world about imprezas but if some one asked me how to fit a gearbox or a wishbone etc I would more than happily help them out. So does that make me a bad person as i dont have X amount off staff? Scoobyclinic are legends at what they do and cant be faulted But it sort off sounds like in your thread if you dont have a workshop or aload off staff your a cowboy???

Even mappers have to start some where. (cant comment on any off that as i really ddont understand it my self)

As said just my opinun

 

same here , think if every1 used the feedback system then we would all know who to trust
would u buy off ebay sellers with no feedback ????

 

Hi,

not suggesting that everyone without staff and premises are cowboy's at all, but there are many people on forums giving out incorrect advice to scooby newbies, they end up at places like ours having wasted a shed load of money on stuff they dont need, some of it beyond use,

Case a few weeks ago.

Customer rings up regarding a performance pack, decides to buy all the bits off a chap on a forum then fit them himself, us to do a final checkover and re-map, we explain not to fit the injectors and to let us do it on site pre map, he takes advice on this from a forum expert then fits them regardless.
He arrives at our workshops with one sick Scoob, compression tests show very low compressions on all 4 cylinders due to bore wash, the engine now needing a re-build.
This is one of many sad cases we see and it seems to be getting worse.

Everyone needs to start somewhere, but should they be allowed to practice on the unsuspecting publics cars ? or indeed preying on them selling goods unsuitable for purpose, one going on at the moment with a certain brand of launch controller is going to bite some backsides.

cheers
Kev

 

A few week ago i went in a car that had had one off your performance packs And even started a thread off how it scared the **** outta me lol.

I Must have thread your first post on here wrongly mate as it sounded like you were saying if you didnt have a massive garage etc you didnt know what you were talking about.

For some reason id have thought youd have needed 1000s to set up as a mapper which in away would have stopped the "cowboys" setting up?
scary is the thought off people mapping cars with no knowledge.

But then i dont think there has ever been a bad thread about you guys so id be proud at that.

Nobby theres 3 ghosts wanting to visit you on christmas eve??

 

An interesting topic that is going on across the world as forums become more and more polular. Would you guys compalining that this is somehow our fault please offer some examples of where we are at fault and how we can help?

I thought that me bringing the iTrader system to Scoobynet would have been seen as a positive step, as well as the new vendor directory which I will announce some time later this week but as I am fast coming to learn, a lot of folk on here only want to complain about things no matter how good other things are.

 

STU, i dont think people are blaming you guys. so dont take it the wrong way.

yes the itrader is a good start, but i have come across a few too many posts with pople getting ripped off and still being able to sell goods on here where i think some people feel they should of been banned.

i for one have stopped buying goods on here unless i can collect and pay via paypal to try and protect myself as much as i can.

and with everything you are going to get people who complain just a part of life mate so try not to take it personaly and keep up the good work as for me i dont have an issue with the site just when i cant get on it but that seems to be ok now so top work

 

Hi,

we just feel traders could be vetted and policed better on all forums, it seems a simple payment to the said forum gets you an authorised advertiser banner which to most people makes it look authentic.

cheers
Ads

 

Thats a bit harsh is it not?

iTrader is a good step forward
But regardless there are always going to be underhanded tactics by dodgy folk who are only looking to rip someone off.

I think in fairness the recent and still slightly ongoing outage/poor response of SN has hacked paying people off especially as there were little to none with regards to announcments from the powers that be

I've bought a few things off people on here which value almost 1K
I've sold a couple of thing valuing around £350 - onf of those was a prodrive back box
I didn't have a single problem, but as I'm a genuine bloke I gave my contact details up front and the buyer/seller then did same

Just my 2p's worth

Shaun

 

Hi,
no worries, it is difficult to get a point accross sometimes without it being missread, thats the problem with two dimensional e.mails and indeed post's on a forum.

The Mapping issue I raised was due to an ever increasing number of badly mapped cars turning up for power runs on our dyno, some are lucky to have got here without engine failure, most have been done simply by downloading maps off the internet and selling them to unsuspecting people as re-maps, a simple £300.00 lap top and a cable allows them to do it, some have no engineering experience with regard to turbocharged engines and most no mapping experience at all, they just know how to use a computer.
As I said before, time will tell.

cheers
Kev

 

As posted elsewhere, the present system of accepting payment from a trader, then allowing said trader to have a banner, or fill his every post with his adverts for his stuff, is open to abuse. You then get folk who have not much KNOWLEDGE posting so-called facts, simply to sell stuff.

Complaints about the practise receive no response, and the trader "appears" to be protected by the system

Repeatedly refuting what a trader says is taken to be trolling....

It was...what makes you think we don't think so?

Errrrrrrr, a little harsh as we can't really comment on a system you haven't even ANNOUNCED yet?

Oh, and as for complaining, welcome to the real world of 21st century Britain

PS: get the site performance issues sorted, some of us MIGHT start to feel a bit kinder towards you, IB et al...........we MIGHT even offer a few compliments about your new directory when we see it

But if the site is still shyte, I can't see how a new directory can be owt else but............

 

Well said Adam.
For a start, the moderators need to be allowed and encouraged to enforce Scoobynet rules.

 

kev can you explain what you are trying to say regarding the above statement

by pm if you like, am nothing to do with any trader or seller

cheers phil

 

I am saying "let the buyer beware", but I do feel that all forum sites should be policed better, giving traders some kind of standing, allowing customers to make up their own mind who to trust.
Its not allways the traders of course, some suppliers will do anything to get their wares out into the market place, unsuspecting traders can be taken in, selling products that they later find are unsuitable for purpose, its how they deal with it that counts.

cheers
Kev