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Old 27 March 2010 | 08:04 PM
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I am thinking about getting a another STI, my problem is I do about 80 miles a day to and from work. I spend about £380 a month now on the train. My wife is trying to make me get a car that's good on MPG.

my question is doing about 1300 miles a month where does STI stand in terms of cost (gas), say vs GTI or other 200+ bhp cars?

also can anyone suggest a car that is as fun to drive as scooby thats better on MPG and i can get away with around >250 on gas a month?
Old 27 March 2010 | 08:09 PM
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£20 of super unleaded gets me about 90 miles in my 04 sti ppp 18-20 mpg!
put i can guarantee its more fun than the train! had a civic type r and the scooby is far quicker and handles better.
Old 27 March 2010 | 08:11 PM
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Buy a diesel....


Next !

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P.S. 21 mpg average, 90% not trying 10% "fun".
Old 27 March 2010 | 08:19 PM
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NOT as much fun as a scooby, but they are brilliant

Mondeo ST TDCI

pulls like a train
nice inside (especially with the optional leather Recaros)
handles like it's on rails - seriously !
practical
cheap parts
looks cool in a slightly thuggish way
genuinely does 45mpg

ta da
Old 27 March 2010 | 08:19 PM
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@dunx "Buy a diesel"
sounds like my wife!

miss the fun
@tubbytommy you really get 90 miles for £20!
Old 27 March 2010 | 08:19 PM
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i have ruffly worked out that if you were fortunate enough to get 250 miles out of an STI on motor ways you would be using about 5 and a bit tanks a month to get to work and back at ruffly £60 a tank at current prices I think you will be looking about 300 pound a month before any social milage!
I have a wrx and regularly get between 24-28mpg on mixed driving and i am getting through £160 a month currently going 24miles a day 12 there 12 back! + driving about on my days off.
Old 27 March 2010 | 08:23 PM
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You could get a SEAT Leon Cupra R, get it remapped to 260bhp and still enjoy 30+ miles per gallon, more toys, a more refined commuting car. Job done.

Logically it makes more sense to get one of those with the current climate, cheaper insurance/costs/fuel/ still quick, so taking all that into consideration, I decided that that the right thing to do was...
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...

... sod it and get an STi.
Old 27 March 2010 | 08:26 PM
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@dunx "Buy a diesel"
sounds like my wife!

miss the fun
@tubbytommy you really get 90 miles for £20!
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If MPG is a worry then forget a Impreza
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its the price for fun I guess
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what about a BMW?
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My old E60 M5 average 11.2mpg !!!!!, my new E90 M3 average 15.4 mpg !!! , so compare to Subaru ...you guys are saving a packet on just the fuel alone, but then you dont have a V10/V8 under the hood

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lol oops
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Originally Posted by sparky300
lol oops
just to add my P1 running 460-480bhp average 19-20mpg
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yeh 90 ish for £20 thats what my sti ppp is doing not chipped but has prodrive sport cat and back box over fiver a gallon thats 20 ish mpg.
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Originally Posted by sparky300
I am thinking about getting a another STI, my problem is I do about 80 miles a day to and from work. I spend about £380 a month now on the train. My wife is trying to make me get a car that's good on MPG.

my question is doing about 1300 miles a month where does STI stand in terms of cost (gas), say vs GTI or other 200+ bhp cars?

also can anyone suggest a car that is as fun to drive as scooby thats better on MPG and i can get away with around >250 on gas a month?
Your looking at about £20 a day with that mileage fella
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that is the official fuel consumption for sti i think you will find if you look it up on internet, not really a sensible choice as a commuter car .
Old 27 March 2010 | 09:22 PM
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My mates 335D running 286/432 is reported to do the 30-70 sprint in 3.4s, some 0.3s faster than the V10 M5 although this figure has been disputed, but 03-05 PPP'd STi's are only quoted at 5.4s by Prodrive. It is significantly quicker than any standard and even quite highly mod'd Scoob. Indeed, on the Autobahn en-route to Stelvio he demolished another mate in a 400BHP 03 STi. As the majority of enthusiastic driving is done between these speeds I find it a much more reliable measure of a cars on road performance. Once on the Alpine pass's the Scoob showed it a clean pair of heals due to a combination of excellent chassis, coilovers, bars and bracing, lower weight (200kg), and of course, AWD. Over the entire trip he reported an average of 43mpg, which included hooning it in the twisties and caning it on the Autobahns. The Scoob was down in the teens ! The same car now boasts some 335BHP and 500 lb/ft for a measly £380 Bluefin chip, and could have gone to 360/520 for another £400 or so. Performance, comfort, luxury and economy in one brilliant machine. If only I could afford one
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80 mile a day would cost me £30 in fuel, maybe pennies less but not much.
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Depending on the roads (terrain, hold-ups etc) I might manage it on about £6-7.
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i get 40 miles to £10 comfortably
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When I last worked it out I got 24mph on b-roads using a fair bit of boost in an STI RA. I think it's fair to say that you won't find a car with similar power that gives you significantly more.

A car with VTEC (or similar) will give you the best compromise between power and efficiency IMO.
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MK5 Golf 2.0TDI (140BHP not the 170BHP)

Re-Map it to 180-190BHP with aound 300lbft & you'll get 60+ MPG on a long run or never drop below 40MPG round town.
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Originally Posted by richie001
If MPG is a worry then forget a Impreza
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Old 28 March 2010 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by sparky300
@dunx "Buy a diesel"
sounds like my wife!

miss the fun
@tubbytommy you really get 90 miles for £20!
Sorry ! But as I only do 6500 miles per annum, I can swallow the poor fuel consumption, it's a no-brainer if you have to cover that sort of mileage daily.

IMHO

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when for a test drive in a BMW 320d m sport, ok its was no STI. its around 160bhp but it was sooooo nice inside and does 45mpg!

I also tested a Mitsubishi Lancer 2.0 DI-D GS4 at the scooby dealer it felt 100 times quicker than the BMW @ just 150bhp both very nice cars. the Lancer comes with so much kit, leather seats, heated, sat nav even a hard drive

ever drive a diesel was impressed. both cost the same as the STI i was looking at
Old 28 March 2010 | 09:24 PM
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There are lots of alternatives to the Impreza, if you just want a fast car then most of the Hot Hatches will be up to the job. Or big diesel cruisers such as the BMW 335D, on the motorway in a straight line would worry most Impreza's.

I just love my Impreza, I feel like I’m actually driving it more than any hot hatch I’ve driven, (although not driven the latest offering from Ford). I also love the power delivery, sound and the general character and "pantomime" of the car. That’s why I don't consider the running costs, also I only do 8K to 10K miles a year, which helps.

Even nearly three years on the Impreza still puts a smile on my face.
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Get a cheap diesal barge and run it on agricultural fuel.

It's cheap as chips and the fuel is available off dodgy eastern europeans near you.
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i love the scoob but it is truly **** on fuel consumption, if you drive it like a nun i may get 20mpg but to give it a couple of 20 mile blasts once or twice a week it goes down to about 140 to a tank!!!
it is a greedy bastad
Old 28 March 2010 | 09:47 PM
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BMW 335D start to get a little out of my price range. don't like the hot hatch crew and because i am spending 3 hours a day on the motorway I want a conformable car, good on mpg and a bit of performance.

the best I have seen is the BMW 535D (the fastest diesel I know about) but that is far out of my price range!


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