Gearbox Gone Bang
29 April 2010, 09:21 AM
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Gearbox Gone Bang
Gearbox went bang last night not even going or accelerating fast
I cahnged from 1st to 2nd then BANG
took me about 3 hours to get it out of gear and allot of crunching feel so sick now cant afford anything at the mo let alone another box so so so so gutted
dont understand as the gearbox has been replaced not to long ago with a P1 rear diff front Diff and gearbox
anyone had a box done recently what sort of cost is this going to be
I cahnged from 1st to 2nd then BANG
took me about 3 hours to get it out of gear and allot of crunching feel so sick now cant afford anything at the mo let alone another box so so so so gutted
dont understand as the gearbox has been replaced not to long ago with a P1 rear diff front Diff and gearbox
anyone had a box done recently what sort of cost is this going to be
29 April 2010, 09:40 AM
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I remember paying £1k ish for a recon box a couple of years ago, that was a fitted price at Xtreme scoobies, but they are not longer trading afaik.
Depending on how confident you feel you should be able to get a box off of Ebay or a jap breakers for less than £300 and fit it yourself.
Depending on how confident you feel you should be able to get a box off of Ebay or a jap breakers for less than £300 and fit it yourself.
29 April 2010, 09:53 AM
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I remember paying £1k ish for a recon box a couple of years ago, that was a fitted price at Xtreme scoobies, but they are not longer trading afaik.
Depending on how confident you feel you should be able to get a box off of Ebay or a jap breakers for less than £300 and fit it yourself.
Depending on how confident you feel you should be able to get a box off of Ebay or a jap breakers for less than £300 and fit it yourself.
29 April 2010, 10:24 AM
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I bought a recon ty754 box and diff, the box had a leak and the diff broke straight away...... I guess just be prepared for extra costs when buying used, I payed £500 for the diff and box so by the time I'd got it fitted and then repaired I could have got Dave at API to build me a good strong one.....
Also DO NOT buy one from Ideal engines, it took me alot of aggression to actually get the goods from these jokers and it was gash when it arrived.
Good luck
Also DO NOT buy one from Ideal engines, it took me alot of aggression to actually get the goods from these jokers and it was gash when it arrived.
Good luck
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29 April 2010, 10:36 AM
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Its a WRX 2002 bug running 274 BHP on last RR
dont understand as the P1 boxes are meant to be good, sme internals as the STi 4/5 and a UK 5th
just need to look around and to top it off the missis walked out on me when it rains it pours
29 April 2010, 11:10 AM
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29 April 2010, 04:12 PM
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I think you have been unlucky at that power to kill the P1 gearbox, but I understand the once bitten twice shy ethos.
If you are short of cash you have limited options. Best look for the lowest milage 5 speed box of a late classic/bugeye you can find and hope for the best.
If you have more cash available and want to keep the car you could go 6 speed ot have the gearbox rebuilt with stronger internals.
I think you have been unlucky ... in more ways than one it would seem. As someone else said chin up mate.
If you are short of cash you have limited options. Best look for the lowest milage 5 speed box of a late classic/bugeye you can find and hope for the best.
If you have more cash available and want to keep the car you could go 6 speed ot have the gearbox rebuilt with stronger internals.
I think you have been unlucky ... in more ways than one it would seem. As someone else said chin up mate.
29 April 2010, 04:13 PM
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I always thought the newage gearboxes were stronger than the Classic variety......I ran my Bug 2002 WRX with OEM gearbox at 325 + BHP / 300 torque and it wasn't untill I went to methanol injection and 50 odd more BHP that it blew.
How about looking for a newage WRX setup that someone has swapped for a six speed? My old five speed was swapped with API
Shaun
How about looking for a newage WRX setup that someone has swapped for a six speed? My old five speed was swapped with API
Shaun
29 April 2010, 04:17 PM
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I think you have been unlucky at that power to kill the P1 gearbox, but I understand the once bitten twice shy ethos.
If you are short of cash you have limited options. Best look for the lowest milage 5 speed box of a late classic/bugeye you can find and hope for the best.
If you have more cash available and want to keep the car you could go 6 speed ot have the gearbox rebuilt with stronger internals.
I think you have been unlucky ... in more ways than one it would seem. As someone else said chin up mate.
If you are short of cash you have limited options. Best look for the lowest milage 5 speed box of a late classic/bugeye you can find and hope for the best.
If you have more cash available and want to keep the car you could go 6 speed ot have the gearbox rebuilt with stronger internals.
I think you have been unlucky ... in more ways than one it would seem. As someone else said chin up mate.
been looking to find another box found a Halkeye one with very low mileage but dont know if it will fit?
otherwise when the box is off i can see if it can be reconditioned got to think positive about mate
thanks
29 April 2010, 04:20 PM
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I always thought the newage gearboxes were stronger than the Classic variety......I ran my Bug 2002 WRX with OEM gearbox at 325 + BHP / 300 torque and it wasn't untill I went to methanol injection and 50 odd more BHP that it blew.
How about looking for a newage WRX setup that someone has swapped for a six speed? My old five speed was swapped with API
Shaun
How about looking for a newage WRX setup that someone has swapped for a six speed? My old five speed was swapped with API
Shaun
Yeah I have contacted Dave at API to see if they can do anything hopefully he can fingers crossed,
one bit of good news the missis is talking to me so will see what happens when I get home the do do might hit the fan or get sorted I am thinking positive about both
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29 April 2010, 04:47 PM
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yeah really wana go for the 6 speed but 1600 just for the box is well well out of my budget
trying to get it all in for 1400 ish
29 April 2010, 05:20 PM
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Hi mate, as you are local if you need someone who knows what they are doing to remove and refit the box and possibly help sourcing a replacement I can highly recommend Adam at Autotecnica in Buxton, he does a fantastic job at very reasonable prices.
Hope this helps
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Hope this helps
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13 May 2010, 11:34 AM
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My classic was running about 300bhp and I had no probs with the gearbox The engine let go last summer
I've gone for a 2.5 conversion, and the car comes back next week, when afaik, the gearbox and diff off the 5 speed will be mine to sell. UK car, 1998, done 84,000 miles.
The only thing missing is the old Subaru gearknob
I've gone for a 2.5 conversion, and the car comes back next week, when afaik, the gearbox and diff off the 5 speed will be mine to sell. UK car, 1998, done 84,000 miles.
The only thing missing is the old Subaru gearknob
13 May 2010, 11:41 AM
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My classic was running about 300bhp and I had no probs with the gearbox The engine let go last summer
I've gone for a 2.5 conversion, and the car comes back next week, when afaik, the gearbox and diff off the 5 speed will be mine to sell. UK car, 1998, done 84,000 miles.
The only thing missing is the old Subaru gearknob
I've gone for a 2.5 conversion, and the car comes back next week, when afaik, the gearbox and diff off the 5 speed will be mine to sell. UK car, 1998, done 84,000 miles.
The only thing missing is the old Subaru gearknob
the update is she is still off the road
sent the gearbox off for repair see if they can sort it hopefully she will be back very soon
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13 May 2010, 12:06 PM
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Stu, what sort of mileage/power did the P1 have that ran the gearbox in the first place? It also depends on how the gearbox was treated, if it did 80k hard miles then sooner or later it was going to go pop so one of the reasons to rebuild the likes of a gearbox (even though your standard box would have been strong enough ) for the power your running.
Tony
so one of the reasons to rebuild the likes of a gearbox (even though your standard box would have been strong enough ) for the power your running.Tony
13 May 2010, 01:56 PM
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As Tony says, do you knwo how it's been treated?
Much to my kids' annoyance when they were younger, I refused to launch mine at every opportunity. In the 12 years I've owned it, it's probably been powered away from a standstill less than half a dozen times
Much to my kids' annoyance when they were younger, I refused to launch mine at every opportunity. In the 12 years I've owned it, it's probably been powered away from a standstill less than half a dozen times
13 May 2010, 02:17 PM
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Stu, what sort of mileage/power did the P1 have that ran the gearbox in the first place? It also depends on how the gearbox was treated, if it did 80k hard miles then sooner or later it was going to go pop so one of the reasons to rebuild the likes of a gearbox (even though your standard box would have been strong enough ) for the power your running.
Tony
so one of the reasons to rebuild the likes of a gearbox (even though your standard box would have been strong enough ) for the power your running.Tony
not sure how the box was treated before hand
all I know is it was replaced at ScoobyClinic and Ross who had the car from new never launched as far as I am awear and I have to much respect for the internals to do any launches, I was told it was from a very low mileage p1, but what I have done is get a Uk2000 box and taken them both into a gearbox specilist to rebuild one good one , so hopefully it should be ok just now worried as after a converstation with dave at API he advises me that the P1 rear diff's arnt to good and are welded shut and apparently the LSD cracks and locks up so now I am going to be so worried when driving her
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13 May 2010, 02:18 PM
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I remember paying £1k ish for a recon box a couple of years ago, that was a fitted price at Xtreme scoobies, but they are not longer trading afaik.
Depending on how confident you feel you should be able to get a box off of Ebay or a jap breakers for less than £300 and fit it yourself.
Depending on how confident you feel you should be able to get a box off of Ebay or a jap breakers for less than £300 and fit it yourself.
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