Notices
ScoobyNet General General Subaru Discussion

FMIC, Easy?, Worth it?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 24 May 2010 | 04:10 PM
  #1  
PaulM964's Avatar
PaulM964
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 85
Likes: 1
From: Norwich
Default FMIC, Easy?, Worth it?

So after spending the weekend at the Nurburgring I have decided I need to go a little faster, so im fitting a de-cat pipe and a pannel filter to start. Im now thinking about a fmic. After buying a kit is it a bolt up job or is there any other fabrication needed? and will it compliment the other mods? all opinions welcome guys
Old 24 May 2010 | 05:31 PM
  #2  
g7prs's Avatar
g7prs
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 5,197
Likes: 1
Default

The front bumper normally needs trimming and then you will need to add in the price of getting your car mapped. What year is your car?
Old 24 May 2010 | 06:05 PM
  #3  
alcazar's Avatar
alcazar
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 40,781
Likes: 27
From: Rl'yeh
Default

Aye, don't fit one without getting it mapped.
Old 24 May 2010 | 07:29 PM
  #4  
360ste's Avatar
360ste
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,892
Likes: 0
From: In the Flatlands of Lincolnshire
Default

Cannot see why you need it mapping once fitted. It is a larger intercooler which will cool the air more and make it slightly denser. Surely this is not sufficient to require a re-map. I ran my 02 STi on OE ECU for two years with a FMIC and no re-map. Since then I have played with and tuned it to 416 bhp at 99K miles (FMIC fitted at about 10K miles)
Old 24 May 2010 | 07:31 PM
  #5  
alcazar's Avatar
alcazar
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 40,781
Likes: 27
From: Rl'yeh
Default

You may have.........but I'm just telling the op what respected tuners and mappers would say.

It's up to him what he does with the info, but an engine gone bang is expensive. Trust me.
Old 24 May 2010 | 08:03 PM
  #6  
PaulM964's Avatar
PaulM964
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 85
Likes: 1
From: Norwich
Default

ah!........................... its a 98 i fear it's bad news as far as re-maps go! Dont want to risk popping it in any way.

Last edited by PaulM964; 24 May 2010 at 08:04 PM.
Old 24 May 2010 | 08:09 PM
  #7  
360ste's Avatar
360ste
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,892
Likes: 0
From: In the Flatlands of Lincolnshire
Default

Nice smiley.
Old 24 May 2010 | 08:17 PM
  #8  
172sport's Avatar
172sport
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,641
Likes: 0
From: Nr Grimsby
Default

If you want it to fit right loads of extra work, brakets clamps, ducts etc.

No point buying a panel filter as you will need a cone type thats because the std airbox wont fit anymore.
Old 24 May 2010 | 08:40 PM
  #9  
axgt_bwaii's Avatar
axgt_bwaii
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 3,416
Likes: 0
From: grimsby
Default

^^ yes not a trim on the bumper too. clearly never fit one on a classic anyway

i did mine took a day to get it perfect. i went for a map tweak and didnt need one at all!!! mines a 93 wrx on a scoobyecu.
Old 27 May 2010 | 06:58 AM
  #10  
harvey's Avatar
harvey
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (48)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 10,419
Likes: 1
From: Darlington
Default

Originally Posted by 360ste
Cannot see why you need it mapping once fitted. It is a larger intercooler which will cool the air more and make it slightly denser. Surely this is not sufficient to require a re-map. I ran my 02 STi on OE ECU for two years with a FMIC and no re-map. Since then I have played with and tuned it to 416 bhp at 99K miles (FMIC fitted at about 10K miles)
If you fit a front mount and it is efficient your air charge temperatures are much lower then with the top mount and you are needing more fuel in areas of the map which may not previously have been mapped or catered for by the OE ECU. Your boost profile is different so again you need fuel in areas of the map different to what you had with the top mount. Fitting an efficient front mount without mapping and driving the car hard is foolhardy. You might get away with it but there again many people have not and for sure you are not getting the best out of your front mount without a remap.
Entirely the owner's choice to risk the engine for the cost of a remap.
As I sell front mount intercoolers it is not in my interests to advocate additional expenditure on the sale of a front mount which might jeapordise the sale of a kit but it is necessary to advise all purchasers they should have a reamp and the reasons for this are pretty obvious to anyone with a detailed understanding of how the engine works and what the front mount does. Anyone with a rudimentary understanding of mapping will see clearly why this is necessary.

As stated above, the 98 car is not mappable without an aftermarket ECU.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Mattybr5@MB Developments
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
12
18 November 2015 07:03 AM
Davalar
General Technical
19
30 September 2015 08:54 PM
STERNRITTER
ScoobyNet General
5
29 September 2015 09:05 PM
Pro-Line Motorsport
Car Parts For Sale
2
29 September 2015 07:36 PM
alcazar
Non Scooby Related
24
29 September 2015 09:07 AM



Quick Reply: FMIC, Easy?, Worth it?



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 04:23 PM.