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Old 07 June 2010 | 01:39 AM
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Hello,I have a 97 impreza sport (modified) with a Pipercross induction kit just wondering if anyone knows the hp??
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I think they come 173bhp standard?
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173? you're joking right?
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Hello,I have a 97 impreza sport (modified) with a Pipercross induction kit just wondering if anyone knows the hp??
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173? you're joking right?

Well i did put a question mark next to it. However im sure i read it somewhere back in the days that a impreza sport comes with 173bhp. Not too sure though...
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115bhp iirc - the difference with the filter will be nothing probably.
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^ i think this is right but the later ones had a bit more iirc.

not 60bhp more though aladdin.
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114bhp according to this....

http://www.iwoc.co.uk/impspec.html

Less now it's 13 years old, and don't bargain on the filter adding much. Add in drum brakes at the rear, no rear ARB and a weight of 1680kg giving 68bhp/tonne and it ain't no 'sports' car
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Originally Posted by tathan
^ i think this is right but the later ones had a bit more iirc.

not 60bhp more though aladdin.
Old 07 June 2010 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by corradoboy
114bhp according to this....

http://www.iwoc.co.uk/impspec.html

Less now it's 13 years old, and don't bargain on the filter adding much. Add in drum brakes at the rear, no rear ARB and a weight of 1680kg giving 68bhp/tonne and it ain't no 'sports' car
Eh? How did the classic turbo's weigh in at 1250-1300kg yet the sport weighs around 400kg more I've had both Dave, and the Sport certainly didn't feel 400kg heavier.

173bhp standard
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Originally Posted by chocolate_o_brian
Eh? How did the classic turbo's weigh in at 1250-1300kg yet the sport weighs around 400kg more I've had both Dave, and the Sport certainly didn't feel 400kg heavier.

173bhp standard
How much power do they produce from standard?
Old 07 June 2010 | 09:31 AM
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IIRC, they're about 125bhp. I had one 10 years ago as a company car, I think about 1250kgs or so. About 100bhp per tonne.
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That link says kerb weight of a Sport is 1130kg.
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Originally Posted by gpssti4
IIRC, they're about 125bhp. I had one 10 years ago as a company car, I think about 1250kgs or so. About 100bhp per tonne.
That looks right

Do not think a ind kit will add any power, if if does it will be negligable. unless you are looking at gains of 10+% (for agruments sake) then it really is unlikely you will feel it on a std road car in excess of a tonne in weight.
It will sound better mind
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173bhp

125ish was standard for the more powerful newage sport... and that needed more than an air filter kit to get it over 130

The 4x4 system also saps the N/A power big time, When I had my sport I got my *** handed to me on a plate many times by "similar powered" 2WD hatches

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Less muppetry here

http://www.imprezasport.net/forums/index.php?act=idx
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I had an interesting day-out yesterday at Red Dot Racing. In reponse to " the older a car is the more hp it loses.

We took down a '96 BMW 318i, which had been sat on a driveway for 3 years, put a new battery on it and gave it a cheap service, tax and MOT and put it on the rollers. Now as standard the car has around 112bhp. On the rollers it made 131.7 bhp. The car in question had 230K miles on the clock and still drives extremely well!
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Originally Posted by nks
I had an interesting day-out yesterday at Red Dot Racing. In reponse to " the older a car is the more hp it loses.

We took down a '96 BMW 318i, which had been sat on a driveway for 3 years, put a new battery on it and gave it a cheap service, tax and MOT and put it on the rollers. Now as standard the car has around 112bhp. On the rollers it made 131.7 bhp. The car in question had 230K miles on the clock and still drives extremely well!
Hmm, the 318i-S model came with 140BHP, limited number made though, short run from memory.

a 112bhp car making 131bhp - without mods to the engine/managent then i would suspect a 'optimistic' RR Perhaps you have the I-S model, from memort has the z-axle m-spec suspension as well - nice car
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I'm quite surprised tbh as I went out in one a few weeks ago for the first time and it felt more like 150bhp type of area.

Also, I'm pretty sure they had discs on rear? It was only 1.6/1.8 boggos that had drums?
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Originally Posted by tathan
I'm quite surprised tbh as I went out in one a few weeks ago for the first time and it felt more like 150bhp type of area.

Also, I'm pretty sure they had discs on rear? It was only 1.6/1.8 boggos that had drums?
this never ceases to amaze me. I can almost gauruntee you get into a 99hp charade gtti and you will "think" you have a 300hp car.

Its a 115 hp car that little or nothing can be done to improve its performance. to make any power in this model is cost prohibitive.
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Originally Posted by tathan
Also, I'm pretty sure they had discs on rear? It was only 1.6/1.8 boggos that had drums?
Only the turbo's had rear disks
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Hmm, the 318i-S model came with 140BHP, limited number made though, short run from memory.

a 112bhp car making 131bhp - without mods to the engine/managent then i would suspect a 'optimistic' RR Perhaps you have the I-S model, from memort has the z-axle m-spec suspension as well - nice car
Definitely a 318i SE model- not the IS.

No engine mods just been driven hard since around 80K when we first acquired it. The RR was spot on we think, as other cars were in-line with expectations all day.

We were pretty happy with the result
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Originally Posted by chocolate_o_brian
Eh? How did the classic turbo's weigh in at 1250-1300kg yet the sport weighs around 400kg more
Oops, my bad. I read the gross weight which includes maximum payload, but kerb weight I believe is measured dry, so no oil or water, just the metal and plastic of the car so 1250-1300 is probably about right.
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Originally Posted by bigsinky
this never ceases to amaze me. I can almost gauruntee you get into a 99hp charade gtti and you will "think" you have a 300hp car.
What?
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he means it's not 150, nor 130, but 115 (the N/A engine does not mod well)
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Yeah, I said that earlier. I also said it went surprisingly well for that power. And he said I'd think a 99hp charade was 300hp. Which is where the confusion arose.
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Originally Posted by Aladdin
How much power do they produce from standard?
I believe mine was about 120-125 as standard That was a '98 model. My first car when I passed my test too
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Originally Posted by tathan
Yeah, I said that earlier. I also said it went surprisingly well for that power. And he said I'd think a 99hp charade was 300hp. Which is where the confusion arose.
sorry i didnt mean to confuse, but hp and acceleration is a very subjective thing. I used to own a wee 1 litre 99hp charade that went like **** of a shovel. when i first bought my jap wrx with 260bhp the charade i felt was as quick as that. again subjective, as the power to weight figures dont add up.
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Oh. Well I can't see me imagining a charade is as fast as my RA, but each to their own
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Originally Posted by tathan
Oh. Well I can't see me imagining a charade is as fast as my RA, but each to their own
Power to weight ratio - get the charade down to sub 400kgs and it should kick youRAss



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