stef_2010

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Hi everyone,

I've not long joined this site and have just bought myself a V3 type R, I couldnt be happier with it.



Its in very good condition and the performance blows me away as I've never owned a car even near as powerful

Now to be honest, I don't know to much about the car, so I'm hopefully here to learn.

It has full stainless stell exhaust, panel filter, equal length headers and the boost has been upped to 1 bar. I was told it should be running about 330 bhp, but no proof of this, what do you think?

What would I need to do if i wanted to turn the boost up, I noticed it goes upto 2 ? If you were me and you wanted more performance what would be the next thing you would do engine wise ?

I would like a dump valve but I've read a few posts from people who don't rate them, why is this? If I was to get one which would be recommended ?

Sorry for the big long blether but I'd appriciate some input.

Thanks

TonyBurns

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Welcome
I wouldnt put the boost up at all tbh, get the car health checked, 1 bar is lowish for 330bhp, if the car still has the standard turbo, it could have the fuelling up the shoot too, it doesnt sound very convincing that the previous owner had much of a clue about tuning, most people would have gone for an aftermarket ecu to control the fuelling/boost as its the best way of doing so, and what fuel are you using? did the previous owner give you any clues to what you need to run this car on?

Tony

stef_2010

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Using V-Power Tony, I'm not that clueless

So you think I should buy an ECU and get a decent remap then ?

To be fair I'm happy with the power anyway, what are your thoughts on a dump valve ?

To be fair to the previous owner he did keep it in very good condition, heres the ad if youd like to have a nosey

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TonyBurns

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Dont go for the dump valve, standard one is better and esl are going to release their chip for the 97/98 cars very shortly, that will be your cheapest option, still go for a health check though just dont turn that boost controller up especially not to 2

Tony

stef_2010

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Dont worry I wont,

What will the chip their releasing do ?

I thought dump valves helped the turbo ? No ?

scixer6r

Looks a good clean motor,dont spoil it with a chavy dump valve & get rid of those mud flaps.

TonyBurns

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The dump valve/turbo myth about it keeping the turbo spinning, it actually dumps the gasses, where as the standard one re circulates the gasses, you need gasses, thats what keeps the turbo running so no gasses = lag

The ESL chip will mean that the ecu can be remapped, so a much cheaper option than fitting a 500-1200 quid ecu

Tony

stef_2010

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To be honest I didnt like the mud flaps in the picture either, they look 100x better in the flesh, so to speak

Thanks, so a dump valve (even an expensive one) would make my car slower ? Think I'll give it a miss then.

One more question, I know the subaru got a facelift around V5 time, are the headlights enterchangable between pre facelift and facelift as I really like the crystal ones ?

O and how do I get a health check ? rolling road ?

Glowplug

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Welcome
Get use to driving the car, like you say, the performance blows you away as you have never owned a car with this power and you are happy with it (your words!)
Like TB says, get it health checked for the fuelling and det ect. Brakes, tyres and suspension are more important that dump valves and extra boost. No good having loads of power if you can't keep it on the black stuff If it's running a standard ECU then you only have 0.1-0.2 bar left before you start hitting the safety cut so not worth bothering with.
I would say on standard ECU you will be around 280bhp, don't fall for pub figures get it to a decent scoob specialist (where in the country are you??) who will tell you what has been done to the engine/ecu which in turn will tell you the next steps to take to get more power. Dump valves tend to mess up the fuelling and cause over fuelling and bore wash.
Use the search on here and as you said 'learn'

midnight

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Stef the only difference in the std and a dump valve is one recirculates the excess air back in to the inlet tract and the other vents it to the atmosphere,henceforth you hear a noise(pssssssttt). The std valve on your model year being plastic can crack ,but are generally are good for 300 bhp+.As tony says your car will run ok with this fitted.If you do fit a dump valve you might find your car pops and bangs a bit more as they vent to air,which causes the engine to run slightly richer than normal,especially when lifting off after heavy acceleration.If you are still insistent on buying one,then get a good well made one,ie ,blitz,hks,turbo smart, iam not saying the rest are rubbish ,but more peole tend to have running issues with the bailes,forge and jap copies imho.

gpssti4

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Mine, as standard, made 289bhp. Then with an exhaust, maybe about 310bhp, or was it just the quicker spool made it feel quicker?

Anyway, if you want more power, do it the sensible way - plenty of people on here to tell you what to/not to do.

gpssti4

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Mine, as standard, made 289bhp. Then with an exhaust, maybe about 310bhp, or was it just the quicker spool made it feel quicker?

Anyway, if you want more power, do it the sensible way - plenty of people on here to tell you what to/not to do.

stef_2010

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I'm going to take it to a rolling road next day I'm off, will they be able to tell me if everythings running A O.K ?

Glowplug

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As long as they know their scoobs, yes! I ask again, where are you based??

midnight

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Good advice by b13 bat,as unless you have paperwork to prove the figures then its al pub talk.A mate of mine has a P1 which he has owned for 8 years,he bought a nur spec r from japan before they were in the uk for £625.00,changed the panel filter for a k& n and had it remapped at scooby clinic.Dispite him always running his car on v power ,his car was kicking out 265 bhp std when the quoted figures show 280 bhp,(on jap 100 ron fuel).

The main thing is you have a pretty quick car at the momment ,get it checked over by someone who knows what there doing ,then enjoy driving it

p.s welcome aboard

Glowplug

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Don't confuse 'difference' with 'effects' A VTA DV will effect/change your fuelling and spooling which will need to be addressed Pops and bangs caused by overfuelling.

stef_2010

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Sorry based in Dundee in Bonnie Scotland

So no to the dump valve then ?

Can anyone tell me about the headlights

gpssti4

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Yes, crystal headlights will fit as yours has a facelift bonnet.

Glowplug

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Can't help you out with a good scoob tuner in Scotland am afraid, but someone will

It's not a complete no to DV's, I've run a Forge ever since i've had mine, but i have a chipped ECU and the fuelling is fine, like i said if you change things from 'standard' then you need to address the effects

Whats up with ya headlights, besides being sh1te when you need them

JonsGreenGoblin

Nice Type r, im sure ill see you around dundee, i have a green classic. if your inbterested in meets/runs send me a pm pal

Jonboy

stef_2010

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Do I have a facelift grill aswell ? So I can buy the 1997-2001 headlights (which tell me I need the bonnet and the grill) and I wont have a problem ?

Nothing, I just think the crystal ones make the car look so much cleaner, I've got money burning a hole in my pocket

TonyBurns

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1999/2000 headlights are the best classic ones, these are the "crystal" type, 98 ones were not as good

Tony

dan83590

The crystal ones will fit straight in. Dead easy to fit too.

stef_2010

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Thanks off to order some now

manual or auto ?

I'm hopeless I know

Glowplug

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Yeah agreed, the crystal do look nice, but don't expect too much from classic lights, they are poor. Got money burning a hole? Think about a HID conversion Money well spent imho

stef_2010

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That was also in mind, just trying to look them up now

This fit

Glowplug

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Yep, think they will do you nicely

You will need them once you get on them nice twisties you got round there

dan83590

That link is for H1 bulbs. Wont the OP need H4 Hi/Low bulbs?

Glowplug

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Well spotted Dan, he sure will

these are recommended

See Bob'5 here

Dan W

Dump Valves sound great and I have been tempted myself but resisted as people say re circulatory is better and to-atmosphere is only worthwhile when pushing severe horse power