smallpaulwrx

hi all ive been a member for a while but not been on as ive not had a scooby in a while so first things first HELLO lol,

ok i just bought a 1997 catalunya now when im in gear and the clutch is up i get a small sort of whine/wind coming through a gap sort of sound but in second gear whilst decelarating its really loud and sounds like its badly grinding and whining its especialy bad when going down hill and letting the engine do the braking but as i say it is pretty loud and quite scary any idea's?

Off Your Marks

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Sounds like it could be the syncromesh in the gearbox. Tend to wear more in the lower gears as these are where the car gets ragged the most.

smallpaulwrx

was fine when i test drove it then i took it 70 miles home mostly bypass then it started really bad when i got to my town and started using lower gears sounds realy loud will this be an exspensive fix?

smallpaulwrx

also dont know if this helps but it goes into gear pefect and the gearstick is nice and tight not sloppy

Off Your Marks

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They tend to be quieter when coldr as the oil is thicker when cold and it damps the noise somewhat. As the oil thins out then noises will become more obvious.

Its a gearbox rebuild you will need in the longterm

If you are getting gear OK without crunching then it could just go on like that for years. As its an old car with no doubt countless times of hard driving just be more caring for it and things could last ages.

smallpaulwrx

yes im getting gear fine but as i said its realy loud in second gear i dont know if i could handle that its more annoying than a blown exhaust and as about as embarresing

bob r

iTrader: (46)

It does sound like the gearbox needs a rebuild or better still a replacement.
I sold a 50k box of my 99 car for £250, a replacement box is your best option imo and DIY if you are handy with spanners.

smallpaulwrx

right looked at it today its definetly coming from the gearbox or clutch when in nuetral if i press the clutch there is no noise if i let it up it sounds like there are lots of tiny peices being spun around by something but only when the clutch is let up is this anymore help o and it supposedly had a new clutch about 300 miles ago

Off Your Marks

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Paul

I would stop mincing around asking people to guess on forums mate - it sounds pretty bad and needs the attention of a specialist. The box needs to be dropped out at the least. With something like that i would not drive it further either.

Diagnosis is best done by a professional and is beyond the scope of us. Its certainly not something to relax about - thats not normal in any way. Get it checked
Good luck mate but

Glowplug

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I take it you have checked the oil level in the gearbox?? Yeah, course you have

smallpaulwrx

got it checked the garage they werent too sure but it was coming directly from the gearbox sounds like lots of little bits knocking about so they advise new gearbox so looks like it will be off the road quite a while as i have no funds apart from that i have the gearbox number its TY752VN5BA could anyone tell me what other models has this gearbox so i know what to look for ie is it the same as the wrx and so on? and aslong as its a turbo classic gearbox will it fit? cheers i only ask as ebay is confusing i found the gearbox with my code and it was from wrx but then seen another wrx gearbox and it had a diffrent code so confused!!!!!

DJ_Jon

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You need a UK spec gearbox, either another TY752 or the later (and stronger) TY754 box from a UK classic.

If you are in Scotland, speak to AndyF www.andyforrestperformance.co.uk about a replacement - he will be able to sort one out for you. A second hand TY752 should be no more than £200 - just make sure its not been reconditioned with a tin of hammerite.

smallpaulwrx

i was told from subaru specialist to just get it refurbed im not sure what to do its going to be exspensive either way i'll just see how i get on and thanks all for the advice

smallpaulwrx

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHK4s2Ipte8

ok it sounds like this so im now wondering if its a throw out bearing the garage isnt sure without taking the gearbox out and i dont have a lot of money just now so im just trying to get as much info as possible before i try go ahaed with a garage

Glowplug

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As bob r says, it's not the most difficult job to DIY. If you've got the time but not the money, i would swap it out myself

DJ_Jon

iTrader: (7)

Rebuilding it is gong to cost a **** load more than replacing it with a second hand unit. I would guess you could get it sorted for £350 all in.

To be fair, these cars are not cheap to keep on the road, buy cheap, buy twice.

smallpaulwrx

well its now in the garage we think its the clutch so weve started strippin the gearbox out and will know what it is hopefully its is just the clutch bearing as its going to cost £300 for new clutch supplied and fitted by my freindly garage will apdate as soon as i know

DJ_Jon

iTrader: (7)

Best of luck fella, hope it's not too pricey

smallpaulwrx

thanks buddy

Suberman

What clutch was put in? Certain aftermarket clutches and flywheel sets gives off a very audible deccelerating noise when in gear which sounds like what you mentioned.

smallpaulwrx

well heres the news so far the clutch has a bit snapped off of the thrust bearing (more than likely been twanged off the gearbox when fitted) but also the gearbox has metal shards in the oil so i now how to wait to see if the gearbox specialists can refurbish it so lets hope it can be done,but now im looking at a new clutch and refurbished gearbox what a nightmare only had it 24 hrs before this all happened never had any probs with my other 4 imprezas

Glowplug

iTrader: (8)

About time you had a bit of grief then. 5 Scoobs and this is your first problem, think yourself lucky

smallpaulwrx

lol i must be getting all the probs now then as this is a nightmare lets hope the gearbox is refurbishable or im screwed

smallpaulwrx

the gearbox IS refurbishable its costing me £280 for gearbox refurb and £320 for clutch supplied and fitted and supposedly getting it back monday happy days

Glowplug

iTrader: (8)

Thats good news, not cheap though!