what do i need to get up to 400bhp?
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what do i need to get up to 400bhp?
Guys need abit of info, looking to mod the car this year sometime, My cars std sti uk spec ppp model, dyno'd 290bhp, obvisously looking for more power, what would i need i.e parts and how much i'm expected to spend?
Any ideas or routes that you've guys have taken to mods yours, please let me know?
Also if i don't mod at all, and just have a std remap done how much would that be and what figures of bhp could i get?
regards
VJ
Any ideas or routes that you've guys have taken to mods yours, please let me know?
Also if i don't mod at all, and just have a std remap done how much would that be and what figures of bhp could i get?
regards
VJ
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Guys need abit of info, looking to mod the car this year sometime, My cars std sti uk spec ppp model, dyno'd 290bhp, obvisously looking for more power, what would i need i.e parts and how much i'm expected to spend?
Any ideas or routes that you've guys have taken to mods yours, please let me know?
Also if i don't mod at all, and just have a std remap done how much would that be and what figures of bhp could i get?
regards
VJ
Any ideas or routes that you've guys have taken to mods yours, please let me know?
Also if i don't mod at all, and just have a std remap done how much would that be and what figures of bhp could i get?
regards
VJ
and if mapped up as is between 335 and 350bhp.. the 2005 usually nearer the 350bhp mark and similar lb torque..
Simon
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TD05 20G turbo £800 or £500 if you can exchange it.
Walbro Fuel pump £90
550cc Injectors £300-£400
Front Mount really as you be maxing out you top mount, any thing from £300 -£1000
"3 stright through exhaust again £350 - £1000
Induction Kit, K&N are quite good, £300
Mapping £500- £600
You will have fitting on top of all this mind.
Walbro Fuel pump £90
550cc Injectors £300-£400
Front Mount really as you be maxing out you top mount, any thing from £300 -£1000
"3 stright through exhaust again £350 - £1000
Induction Kit, K&N are quite good, £300
Mapping £500- £600
You will have fitting on top of all this mind.
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400 on a newage can be done easy with the right mapper and the right modifications.
Just depends on your budget mate really?
Also a new clutch depending your driving style and how many 000's on the clock you have.
TMIC should be OK but giving a choice to do it again would go FMIC.
Injectors on 550 pinks but will need a uprated FPR
MD321T or H
Remove Air Box as above. CIAK or induction kit (depends on it you go FMIC)
Exhaust 3" but will get away with a GOOD Sports cat.
Brake Pads. Your have extra power so will need extra braking power.
Why not save yourself some dosh and buy my EcuTek ECU? lol Just need keys matching and pay the extra mapping fee etc? Saving you £250.00 (I think?) Talk Ta Me!!
Steve
Just depends on your budget mate really?
Also a new clutch depending your driving style and how many 000's on the clock you have.
TMIC should be OK but giving a choice to do it again would go FMIC.
Injectors on 550 pinks but will need a uprated FPR
MD321T or H
Remove Air Box as above. CIAK or induction kit (depends on it you go FMIC)
Exhaust 3" but will get away with a GOOD Sports cat.
Brake Pads. Your have extra power so will need extra braking power.
Why not save yourself some dosh and buy my EcuTek ECU? lol Just need keys matching and pay the extra mapping fee etc? Saving you £250.00 (I think?) Talk Ta Me!!
Steve
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Thanks
Bernie
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You don't need 3" exhaust, 2.5" decat or sports cat will do. I've got 500 bhp with 2.5" decat, centre resonator and prodrive back box. I believe Andy forrest has more than 500bhp on his track car with a 2.5" exhaust
Andy
Andy
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What M/Y?
Turbo back exhaust with 3" open neck D/P, ported headers and matched uppipe, remap and you have 340 bhp +/- subject to year and conditiona and parts chosen. Don't forget a fuel pump.
TD05 18G or VF34 might see 360 bhp
After that you need injectors and bigger turbo so it is more expensive.
20G turbo or MD321H and you are 380-390.
An MD 321T is a 440+ bhp turbo if it is any good so a bit out of your league and a lot more expense. At that level look at the SC46.
Turbo back exhaust with 3" open neck D/P, ported headers and matched uppipe, remap and you have 340 bhp +/- subject to year and conditiona and parts chosen. Don't forget a fuel pump.
TD05 18G or VF34 might see 360 bhp
After that you need injectors and bigger turbo so it is more expensive.
20G turbo or MD321H and you are 380-390.
An MD 321T is a 440+ bhp turbo if it is any good so a bit out of your league and a lot more expense. At that level look at the SC46.
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when i got the car, within a few weeks of driving abit hard, the clutch packed up, so i got Exedy Uprated Organic Racing Clutch Kit - Pink Box - Anti-Judder - 6 Speed clutch and new an oem flywheel, would that support 400bhp? Also don't want spend too much budget was around 2-3k, if i could spend less would be much better, however the remap maybe a better option, to maybe get 350bhpish, and then go for more! I don't want to spend ott money on the car, my mates got a mk1 GTO full engine rebuild DR650 turbos, rbs carbon clutch, and loads of other mods that i cant remember, spent around 5 grand and is running 500bhp 490lbs of torque. So need to Scooby to match in abit of power, however at the moment it pisses all over my scooby
regards
VJ
regards
VJ
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Mapped one yesterday.
2005 UK Sti, front mount, wrapped RCM headers, injectors (650cc for headroom), SC40 Billet turbo, Milltek sportcat and system, induction kit, mapped on Ecutek to run 1.6 bar peak and 1.3 bar top end.
It made 411bhp and 375lbft on VPower and lost very little in terms of response when compared to the stock turbo.
You'll find it very hard to beat for value for money.
Martyn
2005 UK Sti, front mount, wrapped RCM headers, injectors (650cc for headroom), SC40 Billet turbo, Milltek sportcat and system, induction kit, mapped on Ecutek to run 1.6 bar peak and 1.3 bar top end.
It made 411bhp and 375lbft on VPower and lost very little in terms of response when compared to the stock turbo.
You'll find it very hard to beat for value for money.
Martyn
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Mapped one yesterday.
2005 UK Sti, front mount, wrapped RCM headers, injectors (650cc for headroom), SC40 Billet turbo, Milltek sportcat and system, induction kit, mapped on Ecutek to run 1.6 bar peak and 1.3 bar top end.
It made 411bhp and 375lbft on VPower and lost very little in terms of response when compared to the stock turbo.
You'll find it very hard to beat for value for money.
Martyn
2005 UK Sti, front mount, wrapped RCM headers, injectors (650cc for headroom), SC40 Billet turbo, Milltek sportcat and system, induction kit, mapped on Ecutek to run 1.6 bar peak and 1.3 bar top end.
It made 411bhp and 375lbft on VPower and lost very little in terms of response when compared to the stock turbo.
You'll find it very hard to beat for value for money.
Martyn
would you get those same figures on a 2004 (53) uk sti ?
i ve been told the car has a ppp however would be looking at achieving a bit more the car is standard what would you reccomend
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I don't see much of a problem making those figures on a 2004 car. There are always subtle differences between cars, but no reason you shouldn't get there or thereabouts.
Carried out another MY05 package finished on Friday, 750cc injectors and an SC46 on this one and it made 446bhp and 400lbft at a flat 1.55 bar boost.
The spool was amazing, making full boost by as little as 3100rpm on the road.
Stopped at that level due to the stock ecu, suspect with a PNP ecu and a meth map 500bhp could be achieved.
Carried out another MY05 package finished on Friday, 750cc injectors and an SC46 on this one and it made 446bhp and 400lbft at a flat 1.55 bar boost.
The spool was amazing, making full boost by as little as 3100rpm on the road.
Stopped at that level due to the stock ecu, suspect with a PNP ecu and a meth map 500bhp could be achieved.
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i made 395 on my type r with the following mods
sti7 short motor
sti4 heads
full 3" decat
gt2 fmic
standard ported headers
harvey up pipe
td05 18g
440 injectors 99% duty cycle
fuel reg
255 f pump
simtek
v power with 20% methanol
all maped by jase at area52 and has also been on scooby clinics dyno
sti7 short motor
sti4 heads
full 3" decat
gt2 fmic
standard ported headers
harvey up pipe
td05 18g
440 injectors 99% duty cycle
fuel reg
255 f pump
simtek
v power with 20% methanol
all maped by jase at area52 and has also been on scooby clinics dyno
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i made 395 on my type r with the following mods
sti7 short motor
sti4 heads
full 3" decat
gt2 fmic
standard ported headers
harvey up pipe
td05 18g
440 injectors 99% duty cycle
fuel reg
255 f pump
simtek
v power with 20% methanol
all maped by jase at area52 and has also been on scooby clinics dyno
sti7 short motor
sti4 heads
full 3" decat
gt2 fmic
standard ported headers
harvey up pipe
td05 18g
440 injectors 99% duty cycle
fuel reg
255 f pump
simtek
v power with 20% methanol
all maped by jase at area52 and has also been on scooby clinics dyno
Even with an FPR, no chance you are making 395bhp with 440cc injectors
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here is some pics when assemberling the fuel system, must admit 440cc are not ideal for this power but is possible.
also this graph was from yesterday
Last edited by STi9 type R; 23 January 2011 at 02:08 PM.
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No S**T Sherlock, they must be at 100% duty from 5000rpm on. My advice would be not to go over 500rpm again till you get some 740cc injectors in it.
In my experience 440cc injectors are good for 320-340bhp on our rollers and as 20% Meth is going to require 10% more fuel, you'll max them even earlier.
Martyn
In my experience 440cc injectors are good for 320-340bhp on our rollers and as 20% Meth is going to require 10% more fuel, you'll max them even earlier.
Martyn
Last edited by MartynJ; 23 January 2011 at 02:41 PM.