coleman

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The title says it all really.

Anyone taught themselves?


Rich

rickya

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The American forums are quite keen on this, check Nasioc too maybe?

brownstain85

Gerbil was on about some program he had bought from america when he had his leon that he cld map his car with, but he is the man with only one t-shirt

JDM_Stig

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Stickymicky did his old car with good results

coleman

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Would trust advise gerbil gave you about mapping a car? Where doing something ever so slighty wrong could quite easily melt your engine?

brownstain85

I wldnt trust him to put air in my tyre

coleman

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I wouldn't trust him to open my door.

al02uk

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I did mate, downloaded the open source software and bought the correct cables etc and gave it a go.......

Engines at API now being rebuilt

Andy

mystery_machine

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I'm pretty sure that all the top mappers taught their-selves to map?

SpecDscooby

LOL great answer. I'm sure as with everything its FAR from rocket science, or mapper would all arrive with NASA jackets, but and its a big but...you wanna be responsible for killing an engine for a cheap re map??

coleman

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I know what your saying mate, but that one off cheap remap won't be cheap when you have to go back everytime you change a aspect of your engine, plus i think it would be a very useful thing to learn.

If you listen to half the people on this forum they would recommend you have a re map if you sit in a different style in your car!

I bet this site is a mappers dream.............

SpecDscooby

LOL, i can definatley see what your saying, they are treated like gods too, and your right, change a CD = get a re map. As i said though i really bet its easy; when you know how.

One would assume ECUTEK for example would charge someone a large amount of money for the software to be able to map, perhaps accompanied by a course of some sort, then that would be it, you have a franchised mapping business...of you go....mappers get great reputations by their own learnings i'm sure....you never (rarely) here of anyone doing a "cheapy" map for mates rates;....suks a bit...; for me who wants a cheapy remap

ScoobyWeb

I have mapped my own. (2006 STI)

brownstain85

So long as you have some sort of idea of how it all works and do alot of research into it like I know u will I cnt see any problem with it, so long as it's not an over the top map

coleman

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Reading the ECUTEK website is what got me thinking about it. although with me having a 96 WRX that site is of no really use to me lol

http://www.ecutek.com/products/proecu/flash99/

SpecDscooby

I have a 2007 Hawk, and would love a basic happy days remap....for basic happy days money....but i aint paying £600 or so for the honor, after chucking money into exhausts and brakes since xmas...still with all the scoobys selling....mapping will get cheap soon....they will be paying us to test new software.....lol

ScoobyWeb

My advise to anyone who wants to go down that route would be....study as much as possible and log, log, log before attempting to alter any parameters. Make sure you understand how everything interacts and don't be afraid to ask questions on the tuning forums.
Its relativley easy to tune for more power at WOT but the hardest part (for me) was getting the driveabilty right. The thing is, you never really stop tweaking.
People have mentioned mapping their own car to save on costs, That was not the reason I did mine as it costs just as much as paying someone like Duncan to do it. By the time you have bought the Tactrix cable, Widband o2 and made your Det cans etc, you may as well have paid one of the Pro's. Its less fun though.

s70rjw

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You can get open source mapping from a reputable mapper for considerably less than £600

greendragonkungfu

i fancy having a go at this too, i have mailed around asking q's and getting quotes on getting my z4 replaced and asked if i could have a cd of the sofware to which i was told i could for 85 notes(:-)) i think it was from one mapper. im thinking il watch as much as i can while the ecu is done and from then on il have a gentle tweak myself.
there is also a place called evoscan that does a cable/software for v1-2 imprezas u might like to look at.

dynamix

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Indeed you can

Mocom Racing

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sounds familiar eh Dynamix

You'll find that almost all ECU mapping professionals will have had to start somewhere and this would of almost certainly been on their own cars unless they were lucky enough to have been employed by a major manufacturer within this field. You'll also find that the good one's would have had a solid engineering background behind them which helps to visualise the developments within the engine as changes are made

Alan Jeffery

Coming next, Brain Surgery. Nothing to it, start on your girlfriend and work up.
www.blackanddecker.co.uk

my94wrx

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was it your own remap that caused it to go bang or something else?

brownstain85

I take it ur a mapper? Lol

coleman

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Is ECU mapping as hard as Brain surgery then?

Shaun

Anyone with the correct aptitude, facilities and time can learn how to map.

IMO.... to be good at something like this requires a person to have core aptitudes.

However.... knowledge and experience is key (like with most things we do), as with most "trades" to make you more proficient.

What person x knows after 2yrs say, may be no where near what person y knows after 20yrs. This does not mean that person x is anymore capable than person y..... but all things being equal, person y should know more and have a greater depth and spread of practical experience and knowledge.

If it interested me enough I would of looked at this years ago myself, but I can't be arsed so I pay someone else to do it. I know I would be more than able to, if I really wanted to.

If you want to give it a blast..... fill your boots and get stuck in!

Life is about learning and doing things that you couldn't do last week in my book.

Alan Jeffery

Not quite, Martyn is the mapper, but we build engines as well, we can't lose!
Hey, go for it. I have no issue with anybody who feels like working on their own car, it's their choice. Unfortunately, there are a few who have a go at other people's as well, and charge for the privilege, despite having little clue.

Alan Jeffery

Brain surgery is the best example I can think of of chaps who are just diving in there, poking about to see what happens! Nobody knows hardly anything about brains.

Myles

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It is like teaching yourself skydiving.

SpecDscooby

Yeh skydiving off a chair......its not life or death.....Mappers/ tuners will be precious about "the holy grail" its thier income.....

What they do is take a map of your car, then take into a laboritory, work on it in a dish, under a micro scope, developing its greatness, before testing it on monkeys.....when satisfied it goes onto you car, and you have "the greatest map on earth", so good is it, you must post on the forums about its greatness.....ring any bells here>>??

Not rocket science, cant be, or joe average would'nt be doing it drinking tea, eating bacon rolls on a 3 year old lap top, now would he??....

Car mechanics also are at the top of the evolutionary ladder.

No offense intended there chaps, just cannot be "rocket science" in real terms. Knowledge is power, and no one wants to share it...