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Old 07 April 2011, 07:14 PM
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Question How much to get a reliable 400/400?

As the title really, how much would it cost to do this to the 2.5 engine that comes in the RB320? Would it need to be forged? ETC

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Old 07 April 2011, 07:24 PM
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You could get pretty close with a decat and a remap but to go 400/400 you would defo need to go forged, as the pistons are **** poor and will let go.
Old 07 April 2011, 07:30 PM
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Would say best part of 5k if not more for it to be done right and done once based on a roll up drop off and get the call to pick it up when its ready
Old 07 April 2011, 07:42 PM
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Cheers guys, I would be looking to drop off pick up when done.

And the million dollar Q, who would you get to do it? I live in Yorkshire but would travel anywhere to the right place. I know it's going to throw up lots of names based on experiences.

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Old 07 April 2011, 07:50 PM
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If they could squeeze you in then Richard Henry at Bradford is my recommendation. 01274 732508
Old 07 April 2011, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by banny sti
You could get pretty close with a decat and a remap but to go 400/400 you would defo need to go forged, as the pistons are **** poor and will let go.
Torque could be achieved with just bolt on mods. However it is common knowledge that 2.5 bottom end isn't all that strong when you push it.
Old 07 April 2011, 08:09 PM
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I know a lad in South Cave who'd be up for that...

Usually builds loads of 2.3 Ev* motors for the East Riding Ev* Mafia

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P.S. You could also talk to Rick @ AET-Turbos...

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Old 07 April 2011, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by azz250478
Cheers guys, I would be looking to drop off pick up when done.

And the million dollar Q, who would you get to do it? I live in Yorkshire but would travel anywhere to the right place. I know it's going to throw up lots of names based on experiences.

Aaron
Without doubt for me it would be David and the team at API, won't go wrong with them, won't be over sold something you don't need.

I.would.suggest you speak to a few tuner as you have to feel comfortable with who ever your are leaving your pride and joy with let alone parting with your hard earned cash its just API get my vote
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https://www.scoobynet.com/members-ga...ers-rb320.html

May be of interest to the OP.

And these are the graphs for that car.
Vpower only



Racerom stuff added along with a methanol mix map.



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As above
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
If they could squeeze you in then Richard Henry at Bradford is my recommendation. 01274 732508
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Originally Posted by MartynJ
https://www.scoobynet.com/members-ga...ers-rb320.html

May be of interest to the OP.

And these are the graphs for that car.
Vpower only



Racerom stuff added along with a methanol mix map.



Martyn
That'll do, how much does this cost kind Sir
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Originally Posted by azz250478
That'll do, how much does this cost kind Sir
its not always about how much will it cost.when going for an engine build you need to be more bothered about getting somewere that will do it right first time,and you wont find much better than enginetuner.
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Have a word with Harvey smith, he posts on here as harvey. He's in Darlington.

He and Darren built mine, a classic with a fully forged 2.5 conversion, and many other bits.

Mine cost a bit more as I had to budget for a 6-speed box too, but I'd trust Darren and Harvey all the way, plus Harvey won't let you spend on stuff you don't need. VERY knowledgeable bloke
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Originally Posted by azz250478
That'll do, how much does this cost kind Sir
2nd that?
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4k engine
1.5k turbo
1.3k clutch
remap £500/600 or aftermarket ecu 1k plus
Old 07 April 2011, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MartynJ
https://www.scoobynet.com/members-ga...ers-rb320.html

May be of interest to the OP.

And these are the graphs for that car.
Vpower only





Martyn
Martyn, is this car just running a standard ECU or does it run a boost controller also?
Old 07 April 2011, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by banny sti
4k engine
1.5k turbo
1.3k clutch
remap £500/600 or aftermarket ecu 1k plus
Banny a forged rebuild will set you back 4k?? When I was looking at dropping one in my old p1 a new forged block was not far off that. I thought it would of been alot cheaper by having the block already, I am shocked
Old 07 April 2011, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by stevie1982
Banny a forged rebuild will set you back 4k?? When I was looking at dropping one in my old p1 a new forged block was not far off that. I thought it would of been alot cheaper by having the block already, I am shocked
If you supply the block maybe about £500-600 cheaper but not much more than that.
I priced a fully built 2.1 inc cdb, headwork, 14mm studs and cams and worked out to about 6k but engine was specced for 600+
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Speak to olly at rcm fella he will look after you.
api did not look after me very well at all. Good luck with the build
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Originally Posted by azz250478
Cheers guys, I would be looking to drop off pick up when done.

And the million dollar Q, who would you get to do it? I live in Yorkshire but would travel anywhere to the right place. I know it's going to throw up lots of names based on experiences.

Aaron
David @ API (Warwickshire) or Harvey (Darlington).

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Originally Posted by banny sti
If you supply the block maybe about £500-600 cheaper but not much more than that.
I priced a fully built 2.1 inc cdb, headwork, 14mm studs and cams and worked out to about 6k but engine was specced for 600+
Wow ok thanks for that but that engine spec sounds rather tempting lol, how's yours getting on?
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Originally Posted by stevie1982
Wow ok thanks for that but that engine spec sounds rather tempting lol, how's yours getting on?
2.35 is in the works but this standard 2 litre wont die so in no real rush
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Yours is a credit to the std 2.0 block, what year was it out of, might have to invest in one next lol
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all the internals are from a 2004 uk car
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Originally Posted by 14N-FR
Martyn, is this car just running a standard ECU or does it run a boost controller also?

Stock ecu with 3 port boost control solenoid.

Martyn
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Originally Posted by MartynJ
Stock ecu with 3 port boost control solenoid.

Martyn
Cheers. Is the car running a tubular or stock exhaust manifold?
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Heatwrapped RCM tubular manifold, a good quality item that we have used time and again.
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I just did 400-400 on my 2.5 hawk cost me around 5k all in. engine, clutch, oil cooler the lot.But thats with me doing 80% of the labour.if you want 450 then add front mount headers 3 port ect ect .Also alot better clutch after 400 is needed.
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Originally Posted by fixup1982
Speak to olly at rcm fella he will look after you.
api did not look after me very well at all. Good luck with the build
We looked after you to the best of our ability, but it is not possible to supply and fit replacement AP racing discs when the client has no money...................

You said you were going to call back when you had some - you never did.

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