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Old 02 October 2011 | 10:35 PM
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hi. I have a wrx in mint condition and might be looking at throwing some upgrades at . its totally standard apart from a back box that was on it when I bought it . can't really afford the sti so was going to spend a bit on the wrx. I was looking at getting the 0 to 60 down to under 5 seconds if posibble . any packages recommended costs etc.would be much appreciated . tom
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hi. I have a wrx in mint condition and might be looking at throwing some upgrades at . its totally standard apart from a back box that was on it when I bought it . can't really afford the sti so was going to spend a bit on the wrx. I was looking at getting the 0 to 60 down to under 5 seconds if posibble . any packages recommended costs etc.would be much appreciated . tom
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Best will be remap with supported mods like:

Walbro 255 lph fuel pump

Decated exhaust with up pipe(STi up pipe will be OK too)

3-port boost solenoid

Uprated panel filter like K&N or Green cotton,Cosworth,depends on your personal preference and price,all are usually same

Remap OS or EcuTek,again like above,depends on your personal preference and price(OS remap cost from £300-£350 including VAT,EcuTek cost £550),both give you same bhp.

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are these pretty safe upgrades . can't afford on going problems caused by cocking anything up . that's why I was wondering about a dedicated package. what sought of bhp and 0 to 60 would these upgrades get me . thanks jura .tom
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Originally Posted by subarutom
are these pretty safe upgrades . can't afford on going problems caused by cocking anything up . that's why I was wondering about a dedicated package. what sought of bhp and 0 to 60 would these upgrades get me . thanks jura .tom
Not sure about the 0-60 times,but bhp you will see 270-280bhp and these are pretty safe upgrades,without the breaking the bank/credit card.


I would recommend fit all these parts before remap,will be cheaper on longer run.Only 3-port boost leave on mapper of your choice,depends where are you located,but i would suggest few mappers like Duncan@Race Dynamix,Rich@FB tuning,Graham@EngineMapper(these guys are OS mappers),or Simon@JGM,Bob Rawle or Ryan@Indigo GT.


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The Bug / Blob WRX left the factory pretty crippled ECU wise for the UK market so as not to step on the STi model (remember the bug was the first UK STi model).

I've been running my Bug WRX between 325 and 400 BHP for 80,000 miles without mishap, but I am not that hard on the car LOL

Your TD04 turbo maxes out somewhere near 265-280 with the mods jura mentioned, Don't worry too much about 0-60 times as the car has not been designed a s a drag or high speed animal

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Originally Posted by Midlife......
The Bug / Blob WRX left the factory pretty crippled ECU wise for the UK market so as not to step on the STi model (remember the bug was the first UK STi model). <br />
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I've been running my Bug WRX between 325 and 400 BHP for 80,000 miles without mishap, but I am not that hard on the car LOL<br />
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Your TD04 turbo maxes out somewhere near 265-280 with the mods jura mentioned, Don't worry too much about 0-60 times as the car has not been designed a s a drag or high speed animal <img src="http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:bbs.scoobynet.com/get/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" smilieid="1" class="inlineimg" /><br />
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I'm pretty good in the car . probably never been over 85 but do Sprint off the lights now and again when its safe to do so when a car trys it on.must say not much outruns me so I suppose I wouldn't gain a great deal out of upgrades. tom
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"so I suppose I wouldn't gain a great deal out of upgrades"........err no!

Exhaust and filter mods with a remap transform the car into what it shouldhave been when it left the factory

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Originally Posted by Midlife......
&quot;so I suppose I wouldn't gain a great deal out of upgrades&quot;........err no!<br />
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Exhaust and filter mods with a remap transform the car into what it shouldhave been when it left the factory <img src="http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:bbs.scoobynet.com/get/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" smilieid="1" class="inlineimg" /><br />
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fair enough . I was also told that fuel economy would improve . is this true ?
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Originally Posted by jura11
Best will be remap with supported mods like:

Walbro 255 lph fuel pump

Decated exhaust with up pipe(STi up pipe will be OK too)

3-port boost solenoid

Uprated panel filter like K&N or Green cotton,Cosworth,depends on your personal preference and price,all are usually same

Remap OS or EcuTek,again like above,depends on your personal preference and price(OS remap cost from £300-£350 including VAT,EcuTek cost £550),both give you same bhp.

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My friend Emma has these exact mods on her 2001 bugeye, remapped by Racedynamix at the house for £300.

Power wise, we estimate around 270/270 and Emma is lightening fast off the line in it. She left me (336 bhp classic) and my mate Jamie (6 speed 350bhp classic) for dead on the way back from Japfinale at the lights and it took me til 90 in 3rd to reel her in. Chick can drive!

0-60 in her bug I reckon is about mid 5's, you'd need over 300bhp and a bloody good gearbox and driver to do sub 5's.
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Subaru warrantied the PPP equipped cars for 3 years, this would suggest that they see 261 bhp as being a reliable power level for 3 years or 60k.
The same warranty, in other words, as the standard car.
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http://www.prodrive.com/up/03MY%20WRX%20PPP.pdf

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Originally Posted by Midlife......
"so I suppose I wouldn't gain a great deal out of upgrades"........err no!

Exhaust and filter mods with a remap transform the car into what it shouldhave been when it left the factory

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True.

You'll go from 225bhp to 280bhp ish. You will feel a big difference with these mods and they are well within what the wrx can handle.
Remember its not just bhp gains but a big improvement in torque. The power delivery throughout the rev range will feel much better (it won't feel like its running out of puff past 5500 revs).
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Originally Posted by the hamster
My friend Emma has these exact mods on her 2001 bugeye, remapped by Racedynamix at the house for £300.<br />
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Power wise, we estimate around 270/270 and Emma is lightening fast off the line in it. She left me (336 bhp classic) and my mate Jamie (6 speed 350bhp classic) for dead on the way back from Japfinale at the lights and it took me til 90 in 3rd to reel her in. Chick can drive!<br />
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0-60 in her bug I reckon is about mid 5's, you'd need over 300bhp and a bloody good gearbox and driver to do sub 5's.
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the profrive performance package claims figures of 280 bhp and o to 60 of 4.8 seconds . I was thinking that because its the one subaru put on it from factory the rest of the car must be up to the job ie gearbox etc . any thoughts ?
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PPP is 265 PS (261 BHP) and 0-60 0f 4.8 secs.....for the 0-60 expect to leave a few bits of the clutch on the floor if you do it too often LOL

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Originally Posted by DonNedly
True.<br />
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You'll go from 225bhp to 280bhp ish. You will feel a big difference with these mods and they are well within what the wrx can handle.<br />
Remember its not just bhp gains but a big improvement in torque. The power delivery throughout the rev range will feel much better (it won't feel like its running out of puff past 5500 revs).
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that was my main concern that the car can handle the upgrades and that I don't push upgrades to a point where it causes me more problems than I can afford . thanks for the advice . tom
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Originally Posted by Midlife......
PPP is 265 PS (261 BHP) and 0-60 0f 4.8 secs.....for the 0-60 expect to leave a few bits of the clutch on the floor if you do it too often LOL<br />
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that's exactly my fear. maybe I should save up for the sti lol
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any car thats hard launched, doing 0-60's etc is going to suffer. As said, these cars arent designed for 0-60 or top speed and doing sub 5's is going to result in a clutch or gearbox rebuild fairly quickly.

Why is the 0-60 so important? mid-range power is where its at, overtaking and leaving things for dead from 30 mph is more fun.
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Originally Posted by the hamster
any car thats hard launched, doing 0-60's etc is going to suffer. As said, these cars arent designed for 0-60 or top speed and doing sub 5's is going to result in a clutch or gearbox rebuild fairly quickly.&lt;br /&gt;<br />
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Why is the 0-60 so important? mid-range power is where its at, overtaking and leaving things for dead from 30 mph is more fun.
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your right .never really thought of it like that .
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the only problem with 5 speeds is they cant handle big torque, however its good to around 350 torque roughly, will make a huge diff to ur car
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It is no safer doing launches in your un-modded car than doing them with the suggested mods.

The nature of a clutch means it will get punished when you launch a car, 500bhp or 50bhp.
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Originally Posted by subarutom
I was looking at getting the 0 to 60 down to under 5 seconds if posibble . any packages recommended costs etc.would be much appreciated . tom
0 to 60 isn't that relevant in the real world, mid range torque is a lot more important. My WRX is running about 307lb/ft torque and is a hell of a lot better to drive than when it was standard.
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Originally Posted by jura11
Best will be remap with supported mods like:

Walbro 255 lph fuel pump

Decated exhaust with up pipe(STi up pipe will be OK too)

3-port boost solenoid

Uprated panel filter like K&N or Green cotton,Cosworth,depends on your personal preference and price,all are usually same

Remap OS or EcuTek,again like above,depends on your personal preference and price(OS remap cost from £300-£350 including VAT,EcuTek cost £550),both give you same bhp.

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We're currently doing an EcuTek remap and Walbro supply and fit for £499 including the dreaded
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Originally Posted by Ryan@Indigo-GT
We're currently doing an EcuTek remap and Walbro supply and fit for £499 including the dreaded
That's great price there for EcuTek


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That's great price there for EcuTek


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Mine was £500 +vat just for the map.
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what sort of insurance would i be looking at if i got a re map and fuel pump etc. some examples would be great. cost . companies etc etc. Thanks
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Mine was £500 +vat just for the map.
It was £550 with us, but seeing as we're pretty new to Scoobynet we decided to bring in some deals for your guys. Our largest customer base is the MLR, we're known for building crazy Evo's, we have reputation there, now we're just building it here too
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my03 wrx has the second and third decat on but with the standard up pipe on and filter and a walbro fuel pump, mapped by duncan and it made 298bhp twice on clinics rollers, my car has had some abuse but still runs fine. fuel wise on a straight motorway run i managed 350miles on a full tank and that was just feathering the throttle and keeping at 70mph
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Was 298 on the TD04?
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yeah mate. got a print out aswel



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