Ginge !

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what sort of price am i looking at and what sort of spec would i need

looking for ball park, not including heads yet just as its a long term plan i have

need4speeduk

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2.1 would do. Probably £3k maybe a little less maybe a little more.

Speak to Alan or Martyn at enginetuner and you won't go far wrong.

Matt

bighead

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all depends on which block you use and what you put in it

Pramas

iam interested in this as well, id like 550 but aiming for either 2.35 which ive heard is big bucks or using my exisiting 2.5 block to get there, iam guessing both dont sufffer the same lag
2.5 would be preference if a pinned block can handle it reliably

Alan Jeffery

It starts at £2650 inc vat.
This gets you a built 2.1 short block based on your donor block, or we could supply one. We have run at 520 bhp on open deck blocks from these builds and considerably more than that using closed deck.
Spec;
Nitrided crank
Wiseco pistons
K1 H beam rods
ACL Race bearings.
Fully balanced assembly
Supplied painted and ready to fit.

Example here has a few parts added, but you get the appearance idea!



01752 345880 six days a week.

KrisBuc

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That price is very tempting !

birchy2010

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Alan, would that sort of short block fit straight onto JDM avci heads or would extra work be needed?

bigsinky

shiny shiny

Alan Jeffery

We wouldn't normally have to chamber AVCS heads. Ideally we like to trial assemble and work the CR out, it's always something we can incorporate.

Ginge !

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how much exta would a CDB be and also what difference would a 2.35 engine be

infact whats the main benifits of both engine types, they will be going on V3 sti heads

sorry to ask questions but i kow your a clued up guy and trust your work as ive known about you from before impreza's

banny sti

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EJ22T block on its own is at least £1k, a good 2 litre CDB is fetching between £250-£350 plus the cost of the rear thrust bearing conversion

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wrx9181

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Wow good price that banny

stevebt

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Banny, sell him yours as that way it would probably get some use

banny sti

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Watch it bt you may be getting a suprise soon

ditchmyster

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I would not worry too much about the cost of the short engine, as it's all the stuff that goes with it to run 500bhp safely that really costs, you can get an engine that will do it for less than 4k, but fuel system,turbo,ecu, gearbox clutch,brakes,suspension, gauges and the rest is where the big bucks go.

stevebt

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You bought another pack of dusters ?

banny sti

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Sandwich maker

Ginge !

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im currently doing my fuel system at the moment ( swirl pot, 044 pump, parallel fuel system and sard regulator and looking at injector options) and the ECU has to be done at this time as i have a V3 STI that has a Mines ECU so i will be prob going on KMS management ( a mate of mine is starting a tuning business and he deals with KMS so ill be buying that off him as its ok managment and i belive in suporting friends and there ventures when i can)

suspension i already have HKS coilovers, whiteline roll bars, ALK, rose jointed drop links and full powerflex bushes all over the car

brakes i have subaru 4 pots with mintex touring car spec pads ( the ones up from the 1177 series) but will be buying AP's when a kit turns up for the right price

the car already has HKS titainium full exhaust and tubular manifold and im looking at turbo options at the moment for the " stage 2 " of my plans when the fuel system is up and running but i should have a td05 20g as a temp turbo

gearbox is going to be a issue soon but ill get a 6 speed fitted after the engine is decided fully ( already got a brand new exedy clutch so seems a shame to waste that so soon)

its going to cost but this is a toy, not a main car and its been off the road for over a year waiting for me to change the gearbox again and get the fuel system sorted

stevebt

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You don't need a swirl pot for 500bhp as the o44 will be fine up to 600bhp. I ran Deutchwerks 740cc injectors right up to 560bhp

stevebt

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Nice one as it will get more use thatn that engine on a stand

Alan Jeffery

There are a few closed deck blocks around, but you need to be sure you're getting a good one. We've had a few duffers lately!
I suppose the ideal is one in perfect condition with a standard size bore.
It's certainly the best possible starting place.
The 2.35 will give more torque, if not much more power using a given turbo.
If your target is 500 bhp a 2.1 will certainly be more bang for buck.
V3 Sti heads are fine.

Alan Jeffery

Being fair, a swirl pot is fitted to provide a head of fuel at all angles, not necessarily to provide fuel quantity. It's a surge issue.

stevebt

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I know it helps with surge, but you only get surge on the track and under a 1/3rd of a tank. To attain 500bhp a swirl pot isn't really needed.

Alan Jeffery

We fitted one to a hillclimb car with 300 bhp which had terrible surge.
The trouble is, when it's surging it's running weak!
My point is that we don't choose to fit one based solely on power output.

As an aside, we've seen some lousy fitments of Bosch pumps in tanks. Cable ties..

KAS35RSTI

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Is that drive in drive out? Fitting etc included??

Ginge !

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its needed for track use with slicks and ring trips it also comes in handy and besides,,,,, for the sake of 60 quid and also its a extra 2 litres of fuel pmsl

stevebt

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I think you can safely add a lot more cash than £60 for a swirl pot fitted.

banny sti

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Defo agree with you on that Steve, factor in the lifter pump and additional lines and its a whole lot more than £60

Ginge !

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yes the fuel lines are being changed anyway for the 044 to be fitted so not a major big deal but makes alot more sence doing it once and right considering its gonna be used for track use

ditchmyster

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So you know all about how much it costs, sure you will spend another 10k and thats before the dreeded feature creep sets in, as if your going to do it you really want to sort your heads and that costs a fair few quid.

I was toying with the idea of 500bhp but the cost of going over 400bhp put me off, mines a v3 as well, but it is a type r

I too think your swirl pot will run to about £350 all told.