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Old 04 December 2011, 10:25 PM
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Default 350bhp on a VF28 and top mount.....

Still looking for Impreza's for a mate and I've just come across this one http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3471077.htm

It's supposed to be an sti RA but it's just a 260ps wrx! the claims of 350bhp from a VF28 with a top mount sound a bit optimistic too

Some people just don't have a clue do they! When my sister was buying her classic every impreza advert I looked at stated the car was an sti but most were actually wrx's
Old 04 December 2011, 10:28 PM
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lol 'Dum Valve'

Must have that turned right up !
Old 04 December 2011, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Paulo P
It's supposed to be an sti RA but it's just a 260ps wrx!
what makes you say that? Looks like an Sti import to me.

Agreed that 350 on a 28 is OTT as theres no mention of a map/ecu on there
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I hate car ads that say x amount of bhp, which based upon their car, mods, Turbo etc is utter ****e!!!! Let alone any reputable dyno runs etc. Winds me right up!!lol
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Originally Posted by the hamster
what makes you say that? Looks like an Sti import to me.

Agreed that 350 on a 28 is OTT as theres no mention of a map/ecu on there
No roof flap, rear mounted ariel and 260ps front seats and steering wheel for a start
Old 04 December 2011, 10:37 PM
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It's not an STI and it's deffinately not an RA.
And I'll also bet my house it's not making 350bhp.
Old 04 December 2011, 10:39 PM
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Oh dear, is this countries education system really that bad
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I'm running 330bhp on a VF28 and Newage TMIC and that's pushing it, might be able to eek out another 10-20bhp with a front-mount.
Old 04 December 2011, 10:43 PM
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Id be interested to know why its running a vf24 when its standard turbo is a TD05 16G

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Originally Posted by MicaDan
I'm running 330bhp on a VF28 and Newage TMIC and that's pushing it, might be able to eek out another 10-20bhp with a front-mount.
Don't forget that on an early classic you can't get a big top mount in there due to space so even getting a late classic top mount to fit is a mission. That must be a nice drive on yours with little lag
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Most I squeezed out of a 28 was 342 on VPower. That was with a pretty decent spec too.
See link below.
Old 04 December 2011, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Paulo P
No roof flap, rear mounted ariel and 260ps front seats and steering wheel for a start
Not to mention it's silver!
Old 04 December 2011, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Paulo P
Don't forget that on an early classic you can't get a big top mount in there due to space so even getting a late classic top mount to fit is a mission. That must be a nice drive on yours with little lag
Yes very true!

Out of the 5 Imprezas I've owned, it's the first one i've had with the VF28 on and I must say for a general road car it's fantastic. The mid-range is superb.
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Originally Posted by wrx_driver
Not to mention it's silver!
A minor detail
Old 04 December 2011, 11:13 PM
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Looking at the guys name he is possibly from Eastern Europe which would explain the spelling not a dig just an observation. Plus he may have been told that was the spec when he bought it.

So many purchase imports as advertised without really checking them out.

Tony shame on you for not spotting the rear wiper lol.

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Old 05 December 2011, 12:22 AM
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but its got STi stickers, so it must be an STi...
Old 05 December 2011, 12:55 AM
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dont the ra gave windey windows too lol
Old 05 December 2011, 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by scooby800
dont the ra gave windey windows too lol
details details details Nothing about this car says sti let alone RA Why people put sti stickers on their non sti models I'll never understand My car is an sti and I'd never dream of adding sti stickers
Old 05 December 2011, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by scooby800
dont the ra gave windey windows too lol
In factory form yes they had manual windows, no air con etc etc. But many left the factory with the goodies fitted as they were available as optional extras.
Old 05 December 2011, 09:36 AM
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my car is running 373 on a vf23. i kid you not, and its been proven many many times
Old 05 December 2011, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by EJ22 LAD
my car is running 373 on a vf23. i kid you not, and its been proven many many times
370+ on a 23,,,,,really ???

Some methanol or maybe an optimistic dyno.
Old 05 December 2011, 10:27 AM
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With all the supporting mods it is possible to make 350 bhp on a VF28 but everything has to be complimentary.
Also remember some rolling roads give widely differing figures. 421 bhp at Scooby Clinic is 348 bhp at MotoScope. Same car, same tank of fuel and three days apart. So take with a pinch of salt exorbitant claims of BHP unless they are supported by runs on other rollers.
Nothing to say one set of rollers is right and the other is wrong. What is important is the consistency of readings so you can stick with one set of rollers to see what works and what does not. Even between four DynoDynamics rolling roads I have used often there is still a spread of results of nearly 5%, even when looking for repeatability but atleast the results are consistent.
Many things can alter the RR "result" so without seeing a dated sheet with adequate information and probably being present to observe the run, it is a bit pointless getting into debates about who can do what with a VFxx turbo or any other turbo.
The POTENTIAL output of any turbo is related to its ability to move air. This is fairly well known and defined from published technical information and subject to housings and compressor wheels in use. After that it is down to how well modified the car is and the efficiency of the engine and set up.
Unless some guys have broken the laws of physics there are some very incredible claims out there.
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its ported out, with custom up-pipe and ported heads also
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Originally Posted by harvey
Also remember some rolling roads give widely differing figures. 421 bhp at Scooby Clinic is 348 bhp at MotoScope. Same car, same tank of fuel and three days apart.
Very true, seen cars run at Zen and then heard the figure they made at RCM. Both very different.
This is the exact reason I didn't quote a bhp figure in my recent gallery thread.
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Guy states in the add silver wagon,am i p***ed ,as it looks like a saloon to me . Also very big turbo which when compared to the td05 which was std on the car is a similar sort of size. My 00 wagon running 330 bhp(and graph to prove),so 350 on the mods he has mentioned is dream talk. Daz davies got close to 360 bhp with a vf28 but car was heavily modded and turbo was at its utmost limit iirc.
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on my 28 i had 360 on meth,but i suppose thats cheating a little bit
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haha, epic advert for a wrx if ever i saw one,,, lol
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
haha, epic advert for a wrx if ever i saw one,,, lol
Up there with the best I'd say It's probably not a bad car but I smell too much bullsh!t
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