Paulo P

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A mate of mine has a track day car that he used to run in time attack and it's just had a new engine fitted after he blew his old engine at Snetterton in late 2010 but the guy that's fitted the engine said it won't pass the MOT on 888's anymore or the exhaust

Exhaust is no problem I can sort that but I've MOT'd cars on 888's and other than the tester saying the tread is low they haven't ever had an issue

Has the law changed regarding 888's?

Thanks,

Paul

Moley

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I thought they were OK untill Nov this year

Budgie

iTrader: (4)

Agreed

Paulo P

iTrader: (42)

I thought so too.

jd5217

are they not road legal in the uk or is the europe wide?

Also, what is everyone planning on replacing them with.

As my car isnt a daily driver, I am happy to use the 888's.

Budgie

iTrader: (4)

I am sticking with the 888s also

jd5217

but what about after Nov?

JB1

Yokohama AD08 for me these days. Much cheaper and very very good

Galifrey

iTrader: (3)

I thought the smart money was going into Federal RS-R's nowadays?

Moley

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Toyo R1R's are supposed to meet the new regulations.
Similar price to R888's apparently

jd5217

Just done a search on Camskill, very similar in price.

http://www.camskill.co.uk/m118b0s669...18_225_40_R_18

Anyone tried the R1-R yet?

dunx

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But sadly nowhere near as good...

Paulo P

iTrader: (42)

Shame to have to change tyres if you're not using it for trackdays it's a road car and you're happy I've driven this car in the wet on 888's and I can't say I had an issue. My mate hated them in the rain in his R33 GTR though.

jura11

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Federal RS-R 595 are great tyres for great price and are on par with R888,or Kumho V70 are too good for money


Jura

daz1968

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What's the problem with them as regards mot as I thought as long as a tyre had tread and was ok speed rating wise for the car then shouldn't be a problem, when did this new law slip in

urban

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What is it that the law says about these tyres?

jd5217

Received the below reply from Toyo:

There appears to be lot of miss-information being spread about trackday tyres becoming illegal in 2012.

There are two regulations being introduced by the EU:

Regulation EC No 1222/2009
• Labeling of key information on tyre performance

Regulation EC No 661/2009
• Type approval, General Safety of Motor Vehicles

The first is best described as white goods labelling.

The categories it covers are Wet Grip, Rolling Resistance and Noise. Tyres will be ranked A, B, C, D, E and G for wet grip and rolling resistance and by the number of decibels for noise, this is then shown on a label on the tyre and/or at point of sale. This comes in to effect 1st November 2012.



The second covers the next stage of noise level requirement, from what is currently in place, and the introduction of new wet grip and rolling resistance requirements.

All tyres have to meet these new regulations as follows:

Noise: Tyres produced after 1st November 2016

Wet Grip: Tyres produced after 1st November 2014

Rolling Resistance (Stage 1): Tyres produced after 1st November 2014

Rolling Resistance (Stage 2): Tyres produced after 1st November 2018

There is a provision for a sell-off period of non-compliant stock produced before the dates listed above, this currently stands at 30 months.

To put this in simple terms the R888 in its present form, can be sold/supplied after the 1st November 2014, but only up to 30 months after its production date, as long as it was manufacturered prior to the 1st November 2014.

The above legislation only affects the sale/supply of new tyres it does not affect tyres that are in service.

The Regulations:
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/...46:0058:EN:PDF
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/...01:0024:EN:PDF