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Old 18 January 2012 | 10:31 PM
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Ok I've got a 2005 blob wagon and it's time to fill the arches ,so what springs are best for a wagon that still leaves plenty of ground Clearence for our nations obsession for speed bumps and still retaining a comfy ride .
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Old 18 January 2012 | 10:56 PM
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Alan Jeffery recommended Eibach for my Wagon, so thats what I`m having come Monday; lowers about 30mm. Not sure about comfort though !!
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dont fit sti springs..bouncyyyyyyyy...Eibach best bet
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That's 2 for eibach also looking to buy if any on offer
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Prodrive springs are great too... have them on my wagon.
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Prodrive springs are great too... have them on my wagon.
That will be Eibach then
Another one for Eibach, standard on my STI
Old 19 January 2012 | 10:44 AM
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Prodrive springs are great too... have them on my wagon.
That will be Eibach then
Another one for Eibach, standard on my STI
Actually no, Prodrive springs are not the same as Eibach springs... they may both be made by Eibach but the spring designs are different between two.

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Actually no, Prodrive springs are not the same as Eibach springs... they may both be made by Eibach but the spring designs are different between two.
correct they are different as subaru had them made to how they wanted them, i also have a set of blue prodrive springs and must say they are good lowers the car nicely and the ride quality is the same if not better than standard imo.
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
That will be Eibach then
Another one for Eibach, standard on my STI
is burns wrong.......
Old 20 January 2012 | 08:21 AM
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I fitted prodrive springs to my blob wrx about 2 months ago and they have made a massive difference to the handling of the car. Doesn't so much of a boat now when turning in for corners
Old 20 January 2012 | 08:57 AM
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RB320 had Eibach as standard and they are great.
Old 20 January 2012 | 09:26 AM
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For goodness sake remember to change the BUMP STOPS though! An STi for example is touching the start of the front bump stop at 17mm of compression from standard. If you want to lower it 30mm then get a really weak spring or just take the spring out- because it'll just sit on the bump stop anyway!

O.E. STi bumps are 60mm long and compress 13mm with 90kg on them then not a lot more after that as they are a steep rising rate.

Rears are 80mm long and I can crush them 30mm with 90kg on. Clearly more progressive in rate and it takes 45mm to get to the start of them.

I know the Prodrive springs either came with or had Bump stops specced for them.

Peter Cambridge at peter@pcadynamics.com is an ex Prodrive engineer who is an expert on Bump Stops. Well worth seeking his recommendation.
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Originally Posted by Markyscoob
For goodness sake remember to change the BUMP STOPS though! An STi for example is touching the start of the front bump stop at 17mm of compression from standard. If you want to lower it 30mm then get a really weak spring or just take the spring out- because it'll just sit on the bump stop anyway!

O.E. STi bumps are 60mm long and compress 13mm with 90kg on them then not a lot more after that as they are a steep rising rate.

Rears are 80mm long and I can crush them 30mm with 90kg on. Clearly more progressive in rate and it takes 45mm to get to the start of them.

I know the Prodrive springs either came with or had Bump stops specced for them.

Peter Cambridge at peter@pcadynamics.com is an ex Prodrive engineer who is an expert on Bump Stops. Well worth seeking his recommendation.
I see what you are saying but surely spring manufacture s take this in to account with the stiffness and wind of the spring as I've not heard of any problems on good quality items . Confused now lol
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Originally Posted by Markyscoob
For goodness sake remember to change the BUMP STOPS though! An STi for example is touching the start of the front bump stop at 17mm of compression from standard. If you want to lower it 30mm then get a really weak spring or just take the spring out- because it'll just sit on the bump stop anyway!

O.E. STi bumps are 60mm long and compress 13mm with 90kg on them then not a lot more after that as they are a steep rising rate.

Rears are 80mm long and I can crush them 30mm with 90kg on. Clearly more progressive in rate and it takes 45mm to get to the start of them.

I know the Prodrive springs either came with or had Bump stops specced for them.

Peter Cambridge at peter@pcadynamics.com is an ex Prodrive engineer who is an expert on Bump Stops. Well worth seeking his recommendation.
Prodrive springs don't come with new bump stops. The fitting instructions just say to cut down the original ones by 20-25mm which is what I did and I've had no problems with doing so.
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So it's looking like prodrive or eibach . Who sells prodrive springs
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Prodrive, dealers.
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Prodrive web site dont show the springs anymore and a quick google didn't reveal any uk dealers
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Love to but way out of my price range no springs for this mans wallet sniff sniff
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I fitted Eibachs to my bug x2 months ago and would really recommend them
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Originally Posted by craigo
is burns wrong.......
No, they are eibach springs, which is what I pointed out

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Old 20 January 2012 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
No, they are eibach springs, which is what I pointed out

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The Prodrive springs have a different compression/damping rate to the Eibach springs plus they have more anti-clatter wrap as well, so you were correct in as much as they were manufactured by Eibach but they are definitely not the same springs.

And Tony is never wrong he just learns from his inaccuracies.

To the OP:

Some dealers are still selling the Prodrive springs plus some new sets do come up on eBay. . Plus make sure you get someone to do the job who can properly and setup the steering/suspension with the Prodrive settings properly.
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Originally Posted by Cannon Fodder
The Prodrive springs have a different compression/damping rate to the Eibach springs plus they have more anti-clatter wrap as well, so you were correct in as much as they were manufactured by Eibach but they are definitely not the same springs.

And Tony is never wrong he just learns from his inaccuracies.

To the OP:

Some dealers are still selling the Prodrive springs plus some new sets do come up on eBay. . Plus make sure you get someone to do the job who can properly and setup the steering/suspension with the Prodrive settings properly.
I didnt say they were the same springs, just that they were eibach in the same sentence you will also see that I put my spec c springs are eibach also
And the chances are of getting any replacement springs for a blob (prodrive eibach's) are virtually zero, so your stuck with just eibachs then

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Well that didn't take long to get a bite, are you sure you're not JackClark in disguise?

There are some sets of Prodrive lowering springs for sale at the moment albeit for newage STi's and the seller is a Subaru dealer.

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So on a blob wagon if I managed to get hold of prodrive springs would the wrx dampers be fine or would I have to get Sti dampers ,do they fit wagons etc .sorry to harp on electrics and engines I'm fine on but suspension I prefere to listen to those that have been there done it .
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You would require the springs for your vehicle, ie wrx springs for a wrx, sti springs for the sti as the shocks are different.

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Originally Posted by hoyty
So on a blob wagon if I managed to get hold of prodrive springs would the wrx dampers be fine or would I have to get Sti dampers ,do they fit wagons etc .sorry to harp on electrics and engines I'm fine on but suspension I prefere to listen to those that have been there done it .
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I'd ring around a couple of dealers (including Holdcroft who are selling the Prodrive STi springs on eBay) as I'm sure there must be some sets still in stock in the dealer network.
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
You would require the springs for your vehicle, ie wrx springs for a wrx, sti springs for the sti as the shocks are different.

Tony
What he said.

@OP eBay is a good bet if you really want the a Prodrive ones (I got mine from a Subaru dealer on eBay) but the Eibach branded Eibach springs are just as good from what I hear.
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Edit. Just read your last post... Holdcroft are where I got mine.


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