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Old 19 February 2012 | 01:15 AM
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Question Subaru BRZ or Toyota F86 !!!!!

Right doesn't seem much difference I spec and Toyota £2k cheaper

So which do you buy and which can you get first?
Old 19 February 2012 | 01:28 AM
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Toyota coming in at 25k and subaru haven't announced yet but I would imagine a couple of K dearer and also waiting to see of and when the sti is coming out like the concept at the USA show

Great car and the future of subaru I think
Looks like red will be my first choice of colour
Just want the big wing on it
Most likely it will be te BRZ for me
Old 19 February 2012 | 01:41 AM
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Toyota coming in at 25k and subaru haven't announced yet but I would imagine a couple of K dearer and also waiting to see of and when the sti is coming out like the concept at the USA show

Great car and the future of subaru I think
Looks like red will be my first choice of colour
Just want the big wing on it
Most likely it will be te BRZ for me
Im more worried about the watered down version.

I looked at an EVO X how come that's 2.0ltr and JDM Spec and the UK SCOOBYS are 2.0tr?
Old 19 February 2012 | 10:12 AM
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Just hope subaru don't make another mistake and price it at silly money. 25k is the benchmark so fingers crossed.

Not sure that Subaru have a solid future in the UK but i am another that will be taking a close look and waiting for further news on the STI variant.
Old 19 February 2012 | 11:26 AM
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Spoke to my dealer about it the other day.... taking pre-pre-orders now, first test drives in April, first deliveries in September. Price will be more than the Toyota but not too much by all accounts. Colours will be as per WRX STI - fancy one in black myself.

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Old 19 February 2012 | 12:31 PM
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Subaru/International Motors will wring every last penny out of you, so prepare for it to be 10% or so more than the Toyota.
Old 19 February 2012 | 12:33 PM
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Wait for the Spec C version?!

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Old 19 February 2012 | 01:30 PM
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for some reason this car gives me a sense i last got when picking up my original 1998 wagon,cant explain it,wont enter into new car buying but very ,very keen on the 2nd hand market
Old 19 February 2012 | 01:54 PM
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I will be interested in TWO things:

1. How much UK buyers will be expected to pay compared to what the Japs will pay.

2. How much UK buyers will be expected top pay compared to what buyers in the USA will pay.

I EXPECT to see us ripped off AS USUAL:MAD:
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The Toyota seems rather underpowered to me. So if the scooby is the one with more grunt then that would be the one to go for imo!
Should be taking delivery of some FT86s at work in june i should imagine, so ill get some snaps up when they arrive!
Old 19 February 2012 | 03:27 PM
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Same engine, same power, just a badge at the end of the day unfortunately
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Buy the toyota and put a subaru badge on it
Old 19 February 2012 | 04:10 PM
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Talked to some Subaru guys today and it seems they are going to aim for as close to Toyota as possible but they feel that the BRZ is a superior product so it's highly unlikely that they will undercut Toyota.
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Which company do you think is more likely to be around to provide spares and backup in 3 years' time? That would definitely be a deciding factor for me...
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Any chance of pics to help compare?

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Originally Posted by djandyg
The Toyota seems rather underpowered to me. So if the scooby is the one with more grunt then that would be the one to go for imo!
Should be taking delivery of some FT86s at work in june i should imagine, so ill get some snaps up when they arrive!
197bhp with 1250kg.... Very similar figures to the original Impreza turbo.


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Which company do you think is more likely to be around to provide spares and backup in 3 years' time? That would definitely be a deciding factor for me...
Subaru are making both and as they are the same car, it wouldn't matter if one went bust as you could just get parts from the other.
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Originally Posted by Pablofb7
Any chance of pics to help compare?

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Old 19 February 2012 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by CREWJ
Talked to some Subaru guys today and it seems they are going to aim for as close to Toyota as possible but they feel that the BRZ is a superior product so it's highly unlikely that they will undercut Toyota.
Not sure why it should be, they're going to build both - unless they plan on using the Toyota half of the production line to train the technicians on or leave the odd bolt undone.

The Subaru is supposed to have a slightly stiffer suspension setup though so no doubt this is what they will quote to justify the extra cost as stiffer springs are more expensive after all
Old 19 February 2012 | 05:29 PM
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Oh, trust me, the Japs will think of SOMEthing to up the price.
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Saw the Subaru BR z today in the flesh and spoke to the guys who got it they said price was gonna be Mid 20k mark
Old 19 February 2012 | 08:36 PM
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It'll definitely be more than the Toyota, of that I've been assured. However, the rumour I hear is that Subaru UK are quite pleased with the pricing that Toyota announced so I'm lead to believe it won't be too much more.
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Top Gear magazine said the brz will be $25,000 in usa and about £25,000 here.
We get such a bad deal.
Old 19 February 2012 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Bealescooby
Saw the Subaru BR z today in the flesh and spoke to the guys who got it they said price was gonna be Mid 20k mark
Yes few of my mates were there.

I think mike wood will certainly fettle the car. And will offer performance and handling pack

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Old 19 February 2012 | 11:03 PM
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The Toyota has better looking lights IMO!
Old 20 February 2012 | 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Gigsy
Not sure why it should be, they're going to build both - unless they plan on using the Toyota half of the production line to train the technicians on or leave the odd bolt undone.

The Subaru is supposed to have a slightly stiffer suspension setup though so no doubt this is what they will quote to justify the extra cost as stiffer springs are more expensive after all
That's right. They said it will be a more sporty package compares to Toyotas tourer approach.
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I saw the BRZ in the flesh thanks to West Mids Imprezas meet and the first thing I thought after seeing the engine bay....

Who is going to bethe first to drop an EJ20 turbo lump in there

In the flesh the car is not that big compared to other modern coupes, roughly the same size as the outgoing Celica model. Apparently the idea to go n/a was to keep wight down!

1250kg for a modern car is damn impressive.

Plus the oil filter is mounted at the top of the engine bay too.
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The BRZ GT300

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LjYl7VfFKE

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Old 20 February 2012 | 01:53 AM
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The STi version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJy8O...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8twgH...eature=related

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Old 20 February 2012 | 08:59 AM
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From what we were told the BRZ has the lowest COG in the world bar the 458 and the Ariel Atom, which is damn impressive. The COG is below your knee when driving.
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So there is already a BRZ in the U.K ?

Is it doing the rounds and does anyone know it's movements ?



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