Martyn smashes VF 48 into orbit !
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Martyn smashes VF 48 into orbit !
Second visit in two weeks to Enginetuner to finish off a few small mods...
Firstly to fit Perrin turbo intake silicon, Perrin parallel fuel rails, new fuel lines with Pyroshield covers, Denso 750 injectors, Carl Davey manifold spacers, and some super skilfully applied DEI reflectagold tape for the underside and end tanks of the tmi. Also did the water delete mod on the throttle body.
Took most of the day to sort the above so a quick map was sorted to get me home... 372bhp / 420lb. Not bad but I did thinking it would make a little more.
So today was round two: finish off the heat management mods with a lovely PTP turbo blanket sitting on some DEI looking heat wrap covering the downpipe to turbo flange and lipping round the turbo. Fit the Grimmspeed Electronic boost controller. Lastly a new air filter for the Forge / Litchfield Caik and we're ready again.
Gotta say the technicians at Enginetuner are incredible - Paul was the man again
So Martyn fires up the laptop again. Twiddle diddle, click clack - spins the rollers and same again 370... Boring.
Twiddle diddle (techy terms ) and Martyn's honking the horn !
390.8 bhp and 430lb. Thats my VF48 on V power - forged 2.5.
That's more like it and we're all well happy.
Onto the methanol mix... Started a few runs and began popping off the intercooler to turbo silicon elbow... painful.
Got over the 400 easy enuf. 401, then 402, hey it's 403 but some serious heat was killing the runs over 5k. Tried a few tricks to get over it but couldn't... Car needed a cool down to see more on the rollers - but I need to go home.
I guess if the graphs follow the V powers curves all the way round I reckon it'll get to nigh on 410 bhp - but for today the paperwork says 403 bhp.
And here's where Martyn smashes the VF48 into orbit - an incredible 490+ lb of torque !
Another 60lbs of torque and another 13-18 bhp approx on 10 % methanol.
So... thanks to Alan and Martyn plus team at Enginetuner down in Plympton - outstanding work guys. ! Again....
Cheers all
A
PS. Stick the graphs up please Martyn. And maybe define the heat issue we had please.
Firstly to fit Perrin turbo intake silicon, Perrin parallel fuel rails, new fuel lines with Pyroshield covers, Denso 750 injectors, Carl Davey manifold spacers, and some super skilfully applied DEI reflectagold tape for the underside and end tanks of the tmi. Also did the water delete mod on the throttle body.
Took most of the day to sort the above so a quick map was sorted to get me home... 372bhp / 420lb. Not bad but I did thinking it would make a little more.
So today was round two: finish off the heat management mods with a lovely PTP turbo blanket sitting on some DEI looking heat wrap covering the downpipe to turbo flange and lipping round the turbo. Fit the Grimmspeed Electronic boost controller. Lastly a new air filter for the Forge / Litchfield Caik and we're ready again.
Gotta say the technicians at Enginetuner are incredible - Paul was the man again
So Martyn fires up the laptop again. Twiddle diddle, click clack - spins the rollers and same again 370... Boring.
Twiddle diddle (techy terms ) and Martyn's honking the horn !
390.8 bhp and 430lb. Thats my VF48 on V power - forged 2.5.
That's more like it and we're all well happy.
Onto the methanol mix... Started a few runs and began popping off the intercooler to turbo silicon elbow... painful.
Got over the 400 easy enuf. 401, then 402, hey it's 403 but some serious heat was killing the runs over 5k. Tried a few tricks to get over it but couldn't... Car needed a cool down to see more on the rollers - but I need to go home.
I guess if the graphs follow the V powers curves all the way round I reckon it'll get to nigh on 410 bhp - but for today the paperwork says 403 bhp.
And here's where Martyn smashes the VF48 into orbit - an incredible 490+ lb of torque !
Another 60lbs of torque and another 13-18 bhp approx on 10 % methanol.
So... thanks to Alan and Martyn plus team at Enginetuner down in Plympton - outstanding work guys. ! Again....
Cheers all
A
PS. Stick the graphs up please Martyn. And maybe define the heat issue we had please.
Last edited by Apostle; 07 June 2012 at 10:54 PM. Reason: Speingll
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Heres me thinking 450 ft/lbs on the vf48 was a nice figure, But thats pretty bloody good.
How much boost was needed to get that figure ? must be pretty high if its starting to heat up ??
How much boost was needed to get that figure ? must be pretty high if its starting to heat up ??
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At John's request !
VPower only, John's ported heads showing their potential
10% Meth map, huge jump in torque, finished run early as peak power had already been achieved.
VPower only, John's ported heads showing their potential
10% Meth map, huge jump in torque, finished run early as peak power had already been achieved.
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Well, it's like the wealthy 93 year old guy who marries a 19 year old starlet.
He was asked if he was worried about the risks of having sex considering the age gap.
"Yes, it's a concern" he said, "But if she dies, she dies"
He was asked if he was worried about the risks of having sex considering the age gap.
"Yes, it's a concern" he said, "But if she dies, she dies"
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Outrageous Allan
Surely the answer is not to exceed maximum recommended boost and avoid pre-detonation !
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I prefer the look of the vpower graph John. Although the methanol map has great headline figures it looks very peaky. Bet the flat foot shifting comes in handy having to change gear so quick. I'd sacrifice the 10 odd bhp for that extended power band. Also less risk of getting sued by passengers for whiplash everytime you prod the accelerator and near instantly get 490ftlb ripping their faces off. Either way im sure it will keep you very happy until a bigger turbo comes.
All the best
All the best
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Seriously? I like the idea of a big torque 2.5 but not if its smooth. I dont care how fast the car is round a track as long as it feels fast. I find it way more fun.
Can you compare what the 490lb ft 'feels' like? I may have the wrong perception but i thought with that torque it would feel anything but smooth, i was once in an E92 Dakar M3 and wasn't impressed, it was way too smooth and i thought this was partly due to it only having 290 odd lb ft. I know it makes its power way up the rev range.
Correct my thinking if its wrong please as i dont want to waste money on the wrong setup.
Can you compare what the 490lb ft 'feels' like? I may have the wrong perception but i thought with that torque it would feel anything but smooth, i was once in an E92 Dakar M3 and wasn't impressed, it was way too smooth and i thought this was partly due to it only having 290 odd lb ft. I know it makes its power way up the rev range.
Correct my thinking if its wrong please as i dont want to waste money on the wrong setup.
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