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Old 26 June 2012 | 08:27 PM
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Default FAKE HEADERS scam fraud? rcm headers

i won these on ebay, was a spur of the moment buy only had chance to see title and auction was about to end whilst at work.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2907279796...84.m1439.l2649
any way later that night when i got in from work and settled down had a look at auction on my laptop and can instantly see these are rubbish chinese headers.
i contacted the person selling them and said do you have any proof there from rcm and answer was, no scooby clinic advised me to buy these headers, so i politely asked for a refund that evening as there clearly not what is stated in the auction title,
i opened a case and the seller is saying im making false acusations. what is the best way to tackle this as ebay are useless!!!!
Old 26 June 2012 | 08:29 PM
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also im unsure how but could someone please copy this and send it rcm on here please
Old 26 June 2012 | 08:34 PM
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I think the fact he states he bought them from RCM is his downfall(if you can prove it)

......but to be fair, did you honestly think you could pay 82quid for RCM headers...
Old 26 June 2012 | 08:38 PM
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Alrite mate, best thing to do is as you already have done:-

Open a cancel transaction case select the reason as item not as described and then the seller has 7 days to respond with his choice to accept or not, which is in his interest as he will then get his final value fee credit back if he does accept. If he doesn't respond ebay will cancel automatically and your fine if he declines then it just means more crap for him and a chance he won't get his final value fee credit back.

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my highest bid was 250pound or there abouts and bid in last 10 seconds, kmew it was to good to be true, still not even recived these rubbish chinese things ive brought,
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he declined the case and said he will be out of pocket and im wrong, do i open another case ?
Old 26 June 2012 | 08:52 PM
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he declined the case and said he will be out of pocket and im wrong, do i open another case ?
Yeh as he clearly never got them from rcm, trying to pull a fly one selling them as decent headers when there not.
you have a good case as he states he bought them from rcm and they are rcm headers, which 100% are not.
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Originally Posted by **jay**
Yeh as he clearly never got them from rcm, trying to pull a fly one selling them as decent headers when there not.
you have a good case as he states he bought them from rcm and they are rcm headers, which 100% are not.
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cheers jay, wish id had a bit more time before i bid, dont thing any top company use flexi pipes in there heades atleast not on a subaru ej20
Old 26 June 2012 | 08:59 PM
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If you can I would open another Case and I would also tell the seller that you are reporting him to eBay for selling fake goods as eBay will take more notice about this can be found on the items page under the box with the sellers user name etc marked report seller that will make him sit up :-) the seller has only harmed him self buy declining the case as he will now lose his final value fee when you win the new case
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ahh so i got outbid by you, i was the winning bidder till the last second, i hope you get your money back, good luck
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one more thing, i stated in his advert, he bought these direct from rcm, where is the invoice.

i asked him this question during the auction but i had no answer?
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ahh so i got outbid by you, i was the winning bidder till the last second, i hope you get your money back, good luck
bet your glad you didnt win now lol, he had a td06 turbo forsale and i enquired about the spec and was told, if your looking to bid at this turbo you will already know about it, arrogant tw*t
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rcm = Right C*ck Monkey in this case.
NO WAY are they anything to do with Roger Clark Motorsport.
Old 26 June 2012 | 09:57 PM
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rcm = Right C*ck Monkey in this case.
Very eloquent, Alan. Don't think I could have phrased it better myself.

As above, report the seller.
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ive just opened up another case and reported him to be selling counterfeit items. i suspect the td06 he sold was a chinese copy too it made about 500 quid. i wasnt going to buy was just enquiring
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They're not been near RCM,if you are looking on the Up pipe is the flexi and this up pipe is usually on cheap up pipe(usually oversized,which can cause lag) or from up pipes from USA

Stay away from those headers and rather spend twice/thrice for real GT spec/RCM/Lateral/SC

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the craked joiner on the up-pipe is totally wrong even just looking at them and the collector for the 4 header pipes is a very poor design.....

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he is now saying scooby clinic supplied him with these and roger clark is no longer in the equastion. still no sign of refund he must be really poor or something
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I`d like to hear what SC think of him saying that, Has he got an invoice from them too?
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Originally Posted by GAZ2293
I`d like to hear what SC think of him saying that, Has he got an invoice from them too?
nope no paperwork at all. il be sending them a email shortly, rcm already been back in contact and arnt happy, think there talking legal action
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It is a shame you were in such a hurry to grab a bargain that you did not check the headers out before you bid on them. Rushed purchases often end in tears. As you already know they bear no resemblance to the headers sold by RCMS or for that matter SoobyClinic.
They were advertised as RCMS. They are not RCMS. End of matter regardless of claims they are now S.C.
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Originally Posted by harvey
It is a shame you were in such a hurry to grab a bargain that you did not check the headers out before you bid on them. Rushed purchases often end in tears. As you already know they bear no resemblance to the headers sold by RCMS or for that matter SoobyClinic.
They were advertised as RCMS. They are not RCMS. End of matter regardless of claims they are now S.C.

cheers harvey, im building a 450 bhp roadcar, what headers are best for me and a price, im looking to purchase next few weeks, im just runnng my new 2,1 engine in and getting it mapped on standard turbo for time being, im going to run either a sc46 or 321t cheers in advance
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RCM GT2 Spec Type headers available from RCMS or myself but for good spool and torque you also require my trick 3 bolt uppipe.
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These are not from ourselves, we sell RCM headers!


We see a lot of this people use our name to sell stuff we have never seen!
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Yes Adam. Very unfortunate. I come across the same thing from time to time with uppipes and ported headers that are claimed to be mine that I would be ashamed to have produced.
Buy cheap, buy twice.
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Originally Posted by specialx
These are not from ourselves, we sell RCM headers!


We see a lot of this people use our name to sell stuff we have never seen!

this moron selling the headers, pursits you brought them from rcm, he had them along with a td06 turbo on a "race car", by the way he writes and spells i would imagine he is some chav who had a few bolt on mods on a wrx, the bloke is seriously getting on my wick now, asked numerous times for a refund and no joy, ebay are only happy when they want there final sale fees every month, i know the likes of yourselfs, rcm, and other top tuning companies dont sell this chinese rubbish! its a shame the market is full of this crap !
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Originally Posted by harvey
Yes Adam. Very unfortunate. I come across the same thing from time to time with uppipes and ported headers that are claimed to be mine that I would be ashamed to have produced.
Buy cheap, buy twice.

so true harvey, ive just spent almost 5k on my rebuild once the funds are up i shall badger you for a set of headers and a trick up pipe.
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Originally Posted by r33ryan
my highest bid was 250pound or there abouts and bid in last 10 seconds, kmew it was to good to be true, still not even recived these rubbish chinese things ive brought,

Having read this thread I'm still at a loss, as the ebay auction info you posted, http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2907279796...84.m1439.l2649

the winning bid was £82??? how does that become 250pounds or there abouts???
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Originally Posted by Don Clark
Having read this thread I'm still at a loss, as the ebay auction info you posted, http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2907279796...84.m1439.l2649

the winning bid was £82??? how does that become 250pounds or there abouts???

my highest bid i entered was 250, at the time the highest bid must have been 81 and on one else bid so i won them for 82 quid plus delivery, are you the bloke selling them ?
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Originally Posted by r33ryan
my highest bid i entered was 250, at the time the highest bid must have been 81 and on one else bid so i won them for 82 quid plus delivery, are you the bloke selling them ?
No, I don't live in Ayrshire.

Just curious where the £250 entered into the equation
Very brave with a £50 starting price



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