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This effects pretty much all petrolheads - Please read on
http://www.the-ace.org.uk/armageddon/
I do not post on here much anymore but though this worthy of the real petrolheads on here
I do not post on here much anymore but though this worthy of the real petrolheads on here
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the link was posted in this thread last night - not great news I agree. https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...313-sorry.html
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Can't really say it wont come in, but would be a nightmare to enforce and keep any cars over 10 years old, it's not easy to get standard parts for a lot of cars, seems that the no mot for old cars is to keep a lot of people quiet when they do introduce something, even if it's only half of what they rumour to introduce it will still be a problem for people like us. Might end up with major modded cars being on a q plate like a kit car as the points system would render a lot of cars without original identity, such as rear wheel drive conversions.
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When they look into the damage it will do to many business and manufacturing company's here in the uk they will think twice.
What i can see happening is all parts fitted to a vehicle to be legal will have to have gone through a test like the German TUV.
What i can see happening is all parts fitted to a vehicle to be legal will have to have gone through a test like the German TUV.
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I agree, will never happen. Look at smoking, proven to be bad for your health, kill and an extra burden on the NHS but the government wouldn't dare ban it as the loss on tax would be tremendous.
They may however bring in tighter constraints for modified vehicles come MOT time and probably charge us extra for the privilege.
They may however bring in tighter constraints for modified vehicles come MOT time and probably charge us extra for the privilege.
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Well it wouldn't be England would it if we weren't penalised for trying to have some fun that hurts no one apart from us spending vast amount's doing up our cars after all it should say upon entering the UK feel free to exploit our benefits and if that doesn't work for you then do feel free to start cloning cash points or car insurance scams lolllllllllllllllllll rant over or is it lmao bless the EU !!
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Wont happen for 2 reasons.
1. British industry would suffer massively
2. There are many EU laws passed to its members, its then upto the individual countries to police and enforce them. Many of the Eastern european countries simply ignore them! I cannot see this getting made law let alone enforced.
1. British industry would suffer massively
2. There are many EU laws passed to its members, its then upto the individual countries to police and enforce them. Many of the Eastern european countries simply ignore them! I cannot see this getting made law let alone enforced.
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Wont happen for 2 reasons.
1. British industry would suffer massively
2. There are many EU laws passed to its members, its then upto the individual countries to police and enforce them. Many of the Eastern european countries simply ignore them! I cannot see this getting made law let alone enforced.
1. British industry would suffer massively
2. There are many EU laws passed to its members, its then upto the individual countries to police and enforce them. Many of the Eastern european countries simply ignore them! I cannot see this getting made law let alone enforced.
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This is seriously being implemented, it's already passed through most of the stages so it's just a question of time. Government will be banking on people continuing to modify their cars and paying an extra premium for a "kit" car tpe of MOT test. Not good news.
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the way i read it, it says they must be original parts "at time of registration"
... anyone up for importing a freshly tuned car from japan? then it would already have the non-original parts fitted at time of registration in the UK...
... anyone up for importing a freshly tuned car from japan? then it would already have the non-original parts fitted at time of registration in the UK...
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lol, this does the rounds every now and again, not sure where it comes frm but it never happens.
It wont ever happen, its unenforcable and as said would take a massive chunk of tax away from the governmet, which thet wont allow lol
It wont ever happen, its unenforcable and as said would take a massive chunk of tax away from the governmet, which thet wont allow lol
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as i said above, its not all panic, doom and gloom, were all gonna have to sell our cars, its just website panicing.
have a read here,
http://fbhvc.co.uk/2012/08/23/eu-roa...iness-testing/
Any legislation has to be agreed by national governments and also the description is so ambigous it could mean pretty much anything.
Dont forget, none OEM parts could also fall under mods mena that industry would go as well. Its unworkable and unenforcable.
have a read here,
http://fbhvc.co.uk/2012/08/23/eu-roa...iness-testing/
Any legislation has to be agreed by national governments and also the description is so ambigous it could mean pretty much anything.
Dont forget, none OEM parts could also fall under mods mena that industry would go as well. Its unworkable and unenforcable.
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This one's been kicking around for some time.
They already have something similar "over there" and have done for some time.
The Continentals are pretty much used to being told what to do by ***** anyway!
There's no doubt that the likes of VW, BMW, Renault etc. are pushing for it.
As they all drive on the wrong side of the road, I think we can forget about "integration".
"They" already have a completely different form of MOT, which lends itself more easily to type approval.
Apart from anything else, we are the ones with a tradition of car modifying and innovation on a personal level when it comes to cars.
It would take a brave government to consign a whole industry to the bin in the middle of a recession.
We'll see, and react to what happens, if anything.
They already have something similar "over there" and have done for some time.
The Continentals are pretty much used to being told what to do by ***** anyway!
There's no doubt that the likes of VW, BMW, Renault etc. are pushing for it.
As they all drive on the wrong side of the road, I think we can forget about "integration".
"They" already have a completely different form of MOT, which lends itself more easily to type approval.
Apart from anything else, we are the ones with a tradition of car modifying and innovation on a personal level when it comes to cars.
It would take a brave government to consign a whole industry to the bin in the middle of a recession.
We'll see, and react to what happens, if anything.
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If this happened there would be thousands of Japanese, German, French and Italian cars heading for the scrap yard because of irreversible mods, accompanied by Fords, Vauxhalls et al. But the government could be in for a surprise if they tried to legislate in this way.
When pistols were banned the Government were shocked to find (thanks European courts) they had to compensate every owner for the full value of every pistol and all equipment, as it was bought in good faith when ownership was legal. It then turned really unpleasant (for the government) when the same courts insisted that all dealers should be similarly compensated. The original cost was projected at £25million. In fact the figure soon shot past £200million.
Imagine similar compensation having to be paid to private car modifiers and tuning houses: it would amount to a great deal more, not acceptable.
The major difference between the two is that the pistol shooters had their own Association to which all owners belonged, while the dealers were members of the Gun Trade Association. Both groups exercised their group strengths to fight for their rights. Car modifiers have no Association that I know of, and I'm guessing tuning houses/dealers are in a similar position. Perhaps time to act now?
When pistols were banned the Government were shocked to find (thanks European courts) they had to compensate every owner for the full value of every pistol and all equipment, as it was bought in good faith when ownership was legal. It then turned really unpleasant (for the government) when the same courts insisted that all dealers should be similarly compensated. The original cost was projected at £25million. In fact the figure soon shot past £200million.
Imagine similar compensation having to be paid to private car modifiers and tuning houses: it would amount to a great deal more, not acceptable.
The major difference between the two is that the pistol shooters had their own Association to which all owners belonged, while the dealers were members of the Gun Trade Association. Both groups exercised their group strengths to fight for their rights. Car modifiers have no Association that I know of, and I'm guessing tuning houses/dealers are in a similar position. Perhaps time to act now?
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