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Old 09 September 2012 | 08:23 PM
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Hey guys!!

I am in the market for a Blobeye STI and I am looking at UK spec ones as they are slightly cheaper to insure, however the majority of the UK spec ones do not seem to have DCCD (mostly 05 onwards).

My question is would I be missing out if I got one without the DCCD, if it really makes that much difference I will also start looking at JDM models to give myself more buying options.

I have seen many many adverts for them and the average price seems to be around 7-8k.

My second question is how much do you guys think I should spend to get a nice one 30/40k on the clock would be fantastic. PPP would be nice if only for the stainless exhaust system but I am not that fussed about PPP.

All input appreciated. Thankyou in advance. David.
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A-DCCD was standard (well they charged you the extra 1k for it on the price otherwise it was a 1k option) on UK cars, euro imports are a bit hit and miss (due to the reason above), JDM's from MY03 had it as standard on the GL model, the KL or poverty spec didnt.
Is it a must?
If you have never driven with it then you wont miss it, once you have driven with it then you really get use to it, it changes your driving style slightly and you get the option of using lock in bad conditions, it can improve handling and really you will be better off going for either the JDM (much better car than a UK one ) or an MY05 wide track model.

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Thanks Tony,

What other benefits are there with the JDM model?
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I got a UK 05 Sti wide track with the DCCD and it's fantastic

Don't be put off by high mileage as long as there is proof of regular services, I bought mine with 69k and is sweet as a nut!!

Mine cost £6750 but I got a bargin....expect to pay £8k upwards for a minter
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Thanks Tony,

What other benefits are there with the JDM model?
The engine is 80% different to a UK car, its twin scroll (better power range, more responsive, quicker in gear, quicker overall ) better specc'd, quick rack steering etc, its just a far better car out of the box you just have to look for a good one a little harder than you do on a UK car.

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Not sure you would miss it, mines left in auto all the time so it's not essential imo, if you want to play around with it then fine but I personally and I'm sure a majority of owners don't take it out of auto so I'm not sure what benefit it would have over a non dccd car

May be someone in the know will shed some light
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Not sure you would miss it, mines left in auto all the time so it's not essential imo, if you want to play around with it then fine but I personally and I'm sure a majority of owners don't take it out of auto so I'm not sure what benefit it would have over a non dccd car

May be someone in the know will shed some light
having had both i doubt you would miss it but saying that id buy one with as its an extra that well sell the car when the time comes.
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It reduces (quite a lot) the understeer the normal car suffers from Stevie, thats the biggest advantage, you just need some ***** to use it properly as it feels quite funny when it corrects itself and you dont really want to keep your foot down you just have to let it do its job
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Thanks guys

JDM it is then I geuss =)

I'm not in a massive hurry so I will keep watching the classifieds section.
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It reduces (quite a lot) the understeer the normal car suffers from Stevie, thats the biggest advantage, you just need some ***** to use it properly as it feels quite funny when it corrects itself and you dont really want to keep your foot down you just have to let it do its job
Ok even in auto mode? So can you explain it a little more to me. At what setting is good for it to be set on or is it more personal choice. I assume if set further to the rear you still have to keep the foot in and allow it to sort it self out then
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Ok even in auto mode? So can you explain it a little more to me. At what setting is good for it to be set on or is it more personal choice. I assume if set further to the rear you still have to keep the foot in and allow it to sort it self out then
id read what it does fella, tony is correct it reduces understeer a lot but you can do this with changing the arbs on a non dccd model.

but its an option that only adds to the car so why wouldnt you have it given the option??
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Because initially I was looking for sub 50k miles UK spec (cheaper insurance) with DCCD in blue and my options were few and far between so I was wondering if I was limiting myself for no good reason.

JDM is worth the extra insurance cost from whats been said, most of those seem to have DCCD so now I am only limited by the amount of low mileage JDMs instead.
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Ebay,Autotrader,Pistonheads,scoobynet forum.

Any other places I should be looking?

Thanks for the quick replys!
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Because initially I was looking for sub 50k miles UK spec (cheaper insurance) with DCCD in blue and my options were few and far between so I was wondering if I was limiting myself for no good reason.

JDM is worth the extra insurance cost from whats been said, most of those seem to have DCCD so now I am only limited by the amount of low mileage JDMs instead.
personally if your on a budget go for the best condition rather than best spec.

dccd is a good option but not one you will miss, cars with it are worth more but if the rest is a dog go for one without.
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Ok even in auto mode? So can you explain it a little more to me. At what setting is good for it to be set on or is it more personal choice. I assume if set further to the rear you still have to keep the foot in and allow it to sort it self out then
You wont keep up with what it can do in Auto over manual, but there will be situations it is better than a none dccd car, the auto is good until you have really bad weather and then you switch to manual, for example, in lock the car will be more stable than a none dccd car.
There are advantages to having a-dccd but as ive said, if you dont have it and have never used it, you wont miss it

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Originally Posted by Scoobyfan2012
Hey guys!!

I am in the market for a Blobeye STI and I am looking at UK spec ones as they are slightly cheaper to insure, however the majority of the UK spec ones do not seem to have DCCD (mostly 05 onwards).

My question is would I be missing out if I got one without the DCCD, if it really makes that much difference I will also start looking at JDM models to give myself more buying options.

I have seen many many adverts for them and the average price seems to be around 7-8k.

My second question is how much do you guys think I should spend to get a nice one 30/40k on the clock would be fantastic. PPP would be nice if only for the stainless exhaust system but I am not that fussed about PPP.

All input appreciated. Thankyou in advance. David.
I am guessing that you love the sound of the flat four burble? Just a heads up that the Jdm models don't give off that flat four sound due to the equal length manifold which sounds more like a race bike at full chat. The Jdm version also has a different power delivery which is very linear and comes in early revs compared to a uk car which gives the typical turbo pin you back in the seat feel. I would suggest test driving both cars and making a decision based on what you prefer, some people find the twinscroll power delivery to be boring.

You will probably use the tape player more than the Dccd switch

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Originally Posted by L.J.F
I am guessing that you love the sound of the flat four burble? Just a heads up that the Jdm models don't give off that flat four sound due to the equal length manifold which sounds more like a race bike at full chat. The Jdm version also has a different power delivery which is very linear and comes in early revs compared to a uk car which gives the typical turbo pin you back in the seat feel. I would suggest test driving both cars and making a decision based on what you prefer, some people find the twinscroll power delivery to be boring.

You will probably use the tape player more than the Dccd switch
Great bit if advice, I tried a jdm and found all of the above a negative and sold it on. I appreciate it they have more toys but the jdm didn't do it for me and I sold it on
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The greatest way to correct understeer is by braking at the correct point and not jumping off your brakes onto accelerator peddle its down to the driver
Also a rarb on the last bolt setting creates a oversteer happy car ...... That's the best for me
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Originally Posted by L.J.F
I am guessing that you love the sound of the flat four burble? Just a heads up that the Jdm models don't give off that flat four sound due to the equal length manifold which sounds more like a race bike at full chat. The Jdm version also has a different power delivery which is very linear and comes in early revs compared to a uk car which gives the typical turbo pin you back in the seat feel. I would suggest test driving both cars and making a decision based on what you prefer, some people find the twinscroll power delivery to be boring.

You will probably use the tape player more than the Dccd switch
The funny thing is, is that owning twin scrolls from 2004, it just sounds much nicer, the flat 4 burble now sounds more like my diesel
Once you are converted, you wont want to go back

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The funny thing is, is that owning twin scrolls from 2004, it just sounds much nicer, the flat 4 burble now sounds more like my diesel
Once you are converted, you wont want to go back

Tony
i think its personal preference, i have had jdm twin scroll cars and prefer the uk power delivery and sound, but the jdms are better specced.

i just like the burble.
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the jdm st8 i had previously was high revs in 6th gear on motorway at 70/75 that was the only thing i didnt like

t/s power delivery is awesome
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High revs at 70-75?
My last 2 push about 3300-3500rpm at the above speed, less than most family hatch backs and definitely lower than a classic STI
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High revs at 70-75?
My last 2 push about 3300-3500rpm at the above speed, less than most family hatch backs and definitely lower than a classic STI
isnt it the final 2 gears i.e. 5th and 6th that have lower ratios??

doubt it would be much of a problem at normal road speeds
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isnt it the final 2 gears i.e. 5th and 6th that have lower ratios??

doubt it would be much of a problem at normal road speeds
Slightly lower ratio but really not much in it as a UK car doesn't rev as high as the jdm
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Twinscroll sound

I do miss the burble but do still own non Twinscroll cars so I still get my fix

IMHO dccd does make a difference on track, bimbling to the shops and a short A/B road blast you won't notice




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