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Old 05 October 2012, 09:47 PM
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Default Harveys 18g's bhp figs, price and anyone using one

After reading some posts I'm looking into an 18g as a 20g will be way too much strain on my engine ATM tbh so was thinking about a Harvey 18g

How much are they?

What bhp figs do they get

And anyone running one

Thanks guys
Old 05 October 2012, 10:54 PM
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Yes an 18g, not a Harvey one but his are good, expect 360/380 on vpower and over 400 is possible with meth, punchy midrange turbo beats a 20g for power up. until 7k regs.
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Originally Posted by stedee
Yes an 18g, not a Harvey one but his are good, expect 360/380 on vpower and over 400 is possible with meth, punchy midrange turbo beats a 20g for power up. until 7k regs.
An 18G won't make those figures, not on an accurate dyno anyway. Thats 20G figures.
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how much are these tubbys?
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Wanna bet, I've seen 2 make over 400 on meth on proper dynos, don't think mine would be far off either, the 2 who made 400 have posted on here
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300 ish second hand.
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I've heard andyf's have made 396/7bhp on v power there's one for sale with dyno sheet .

There rarer than hens teeth. 20g's too big for me at present a don't want top end just quick spool

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Yep i have an andyf 18g. 370ish on vpower 401bhp on meth. Whats more impressive is the flat line torque produced. Theres a graph of mine on here. Just do a search

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Omar's old 2.1 Type R which now belongs to a friend of mine made 360+ on Vpower and 411 on meths mapped by Martyn on an Andy F 18g
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I must be wrong then, very surprised an 18G can make those figures. The ones I've ever come across have been around 350 to 360 bhp, figures of 380 and 396 (above) are well above what I thought an 18G could produce.
Either that or I need to find a new dyno to use...lol...
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
I must be wrong then, very surprised an 18G can make those figures. The ones I've ever come across have been around 350 to 360 bhp, figures of 380 and 396 (above) are well above what I thought an 18G could produce.
Either that or I need to find a new dyno to use...lol...
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I know of someone who ran his car at RCM last week, car ran just shy of 340. Then drove down to SRR and ran 360.

I'm starting to think dyno figures aren't worth the paper they are written on.
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350bhp with my 18G, sold for £250 and was mint

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Originally Posted by MattyB1983

I'm starting to think dyno figures aren't worth the paper they are written on.
Id go with that. Its more about on the road performace than paper.
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
I know of someone who ran his car at RCM last week, car ran just shy of 340. Then drove down to SRR and ran 360.

I'm starting to think dyno figures aren't worth the paper they are written on.
They're not , good for setting up and that's about it

There's a million and one posts of dubious dyno results and a million and one posts on one dyno result to another ,
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Originally Posted by banzai2009
I've heard andyf's have made 396/7bhp on v power there's one for sale with dyno sheet .

There rarer than hens teeth. 20g's too big for me at present a don't want top end just quick spool
Where abouts have you seen it for sale mate??
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
I know of someone who ran his car at RCM last week, car ran just shy of 340. Then drove down to SRR and ran 360.

I'm starting to think dyno figures aren't worth the paper they are written on.
Agree, although as said it depends on what dyno you put your car on.

Example, I purchased a gtir that had a dyno graph from well lane claiming 400 bhp, took it to a tuner i've used for years and it made 315bhp and the map was ****e.

My scooby is running a harvey 20g and has run 358bhp on a trusted set of rollers.
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im running a 20g bought for £300 and running 382bhp
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Originally Posted by sunnyjones003
im running a 20g bought for £300 and running 382bhp
Again... what dyno, boost etc...

Mines runs 1.7bar peak and holds 1.5bar... timed 3.95 - 0-60 at trax.... and more than holds it own on private roads....
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My AF 20G made 380 on Zens rollers on V-power before we used meth.

I honestly can not see how an 18G would make that power (or more as above poster) on the same rollers. I've now got to the point where dyno figures don't interest me as they differ so much from one set to another. Either turbo is gonna make good power and in a classic is very nippy.
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
My AF 20G made 380 on Zens rollers on V-power before we used meth.

I honestly can not see how an 18G would make that power (or more as above poster) on the same rollers. I've now got to the point where dyno figures don't interest me as they differ so much from one set to another. Either turbo is gonna make good power and in a classic is very nippy.

That's because they won't..

Andy Forrest turbo spec...

http://www.andyforrestperformance.co.uk/16307.html

Take your car on certain rollers and yeah.... great you have 400bhp....

Try your car on the road against others, and see how you fair...
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Here are 2 dyno plots from 2 different sets of rollers from the 18g equipped Type R i mentioned in post 9




....and a plot from my old bug on a 20g, Vpower

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It does seem dynod are like women on a period .

There was one on a local forum made if I remember 387 bhp and on another at a rr day 403 so can't quite fathom out these dyno sheets

The 18g's seem very good for torque and mid range defnitly my next mod if one comes up
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Originally Posted by banzai2009
After reading some posts I'm looking into an 18g as a 20g will be way too much strain on my engine ATM tbh so was thinking about a Harvey 18g

How much are they?

What bhp figs do they get

And anyone running one

Thanks guys
what are the rest of your supporting mods?
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They vary because of air temp, density and fuel ratio, it's not an exact science, the graphs above are a good example of slightly different figures.

Put the same car on the same rollers on different days and you will have different results within 5/20bhp especialy in the uk where climate changes on a daily basis.

I don't care about numbers it's how it drives that matters.
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