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Old 07 October 2012, 01:25 PM
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Default Fluids; What to use?

Plan to carry out fluid change on all the wet stuff,what is the best to use
Looked for a service FAQ but could not find one?

Engine oil
Gearbox oil
Diff oil
Coolant (antifreeze)

Is it best to use main dealer stuff or other?

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Old 07 October 2012, 02:06 PM
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Depends on the mileage of the car and what has been used in it before, to a certain extent. A good quality 10/40 semi-synthetic at the very least in the engine and 75/90 in gearbox and final drive. Look to a make such as Millers (from ASPerformance or Opie Oils if you have nothing local)
Looks like a bugeye STi? Don't forget (if you didn't know already) that the gearbox/front diff has two drain plugs.

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Old 07 October 2012, 02:29 PM
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Cheers, the car is 2002 bug STI.
Not sure what oils have been used in the last and I have only had it for a month want to carry out fluid change.
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Call me stupid?
what is the quanity of oil for the gearbox/front diff/rear diff?

Is there a service FAQ on the forum?

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Old 12 October 2012, 07:02 PM
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according to castrol/mobil website engine oil is 4-4.5 litres pal
Old 12 October 2012, 07:18 PM
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does a 2004 blob have a front diff??
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engine oil wants to be fully synthetic
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Cheers on the engine oil, found on here for the rear diff but does the gearbox share same oil as the front diff or is this separate?

Heard that there can be issues with some makes of diff and engine oil?
Found out that you can not buy the oil from the dealer?
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try a company called witham oils mate they will put ya right on all the oils you need .
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Is there a procedure for oil change on the gear box, IE when hot/warm or cold
And locations of the two drain plugs and where to fill back up is it via the dip stick?
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Did you find out the volumes of the diffs and gearbox?
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Originally Posted by MattJ85
Did you find out the volumes of the diffs and gearbox?
From what I can find is the gearbox is 4-4.5 litres and the rear diff about 1 litre.
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Originally Posted by Inviroman
From what I can find is the gearbox is 4-4.5 litres and the rear diff about 1 litre.
Gearbox is around 3.5 litres and the diff about a litre.
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Take it that the front diff and gear box share the same oil?
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Heard that there can be issues with some makes of diff and engine oil?

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Originally Posted by Inviroman
From what I can find is the gearbox is 4-4.5 litres and the rear diff about 1 litre.

Engine...........4.5 ltrs
Gearbox/front diff (6 speed)...........4.1 ltrs
Rear diff..........0.8 ltrs (governed by the filler/level plug on level ground)


Gearbox/front diff drain plugs........main one below the front diff (you'll see it when you get under) second one is in a small sump, under the gearbox covered by a plastic shield. Re-fill via the dipstick tube.

All oils should be hot/warm when draining to allow good flow.
Punch a hole in the bottom of the oil filter and allow it to drain before unscrewing or you may get rather oily when it comes away!
Don't forget to pre-fill the new filter before fitting.
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Contact Opie oils get all my stuff from there when they have offers on and can advise what to use.http://www.opieoils.co.uk/default.aspx?

as a guide:


Engine oil: Fuchs - 10-50w 5 ltrs
Gearbox oil - Fuchs 75-90 3.5ltrs
Diff oil - Fuchs 75-90- 0.8 ltrs
Coolant (antifreeze) anything I have used Shell glyco in the past but bought some fuchs recently as it was on sale

HTH
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Thanks all for the support and assistance.
This is what I plan to order from Opie Oils, will get the fuel filter elsewhere.
Any comments?

Old 22 October 2012, 10:43 PM
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Only comment I would have is the oil filter can be had for slightly less (genuine) on eBay , depends if your bothered or not.
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Arguably, the CFS NT engine oil is a bit of overkill. The non NT CFS is perfectly fine for your application.
As mentioned, there is no need for a 'genuine' Subaru filter. You can get an equally (or better!) filter for half that price - eg Blueprint.
The money you would save on the oil and filter would easily pay for the new fuel filter.

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Originally Posted by JohnD
Arguably, the CFS NT engine oil is a bit of overkill. The non NT CFS is perfectly fine for your application.
As mentioned, there is no need for a 'genuine' Subaru filter. You can get an equally (or better!) filter for half that price - eg Blueprint.
The money you would save on the oil and filter would easily pay for the new fuel filter.

JohnD
Yeah i also run BluePrint oil filters, however some people are picky about using OE parts
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Originally Posted by JohnD
Arguably, the CFS NT engine oil is a bit of overkill. The non NT CFS is perfectly fine for your application.
As mentioned, there is no need for a 'genuine' Subaru filter. You can get an equally (or better!) filter for half that price - eg Blueprint.
The money you would save on the oil and filter would easily pay for the new fuel filter.

JohnD
Whoops! I mis-read the list! The NT transmission oil will be fine (I use it in my 6-speed and it's excellent)
I do think the 10/60 engine oil is too heavy, especially as winter is coming on. If you engine's reasonably standard, use 10/40CFS

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Originally Posted by JohnD
Whoops! I mis-read the list! The NT transmission oil will be fine (I use it in my 6-speed and it's excellent)
I do think the 10/60 engine oil is too heavy, especially as winter is coming on. If you engine's reasonably standard, use 10/40CFS

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The oil in the list is 10/50 not 60, may be the inserted screen shoot, but definitely 10/50
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After a phone call to Opie Oils they advised Millers CFS 5/40
Any comments?
Got my engine oil box/diff oil for just under £100 from Opie Oils
Got air filter/oil filter/ fuel filter/sump washer/ NGK spark plugs from Graham Goode for £50
Going to be busy on Saturday!
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I have just gone for 5w40 millers as its winters time and better cold protection, will swap back to 10w40 on next service for summer
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Originally Posted by Inviroman
After a phone call to Opie Oils they advised Millers CFS 5/40
Any comments?
Got my engine oil box/diff oil for just under £100 from Opie Oils
Got air filter/oil filter/ fuel filter/sump washer/ NGK spark plugs from Graham Goode for £50
Going to be busy on Saturday!
I use 5w/40, it will be fine.

You will have a fun day on saturday then, when i got my wrx i did all the fluids & plugs (inc coolant). Gave me a warm fuzzy feeling after
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All my parts arrived today and roll on tomorrow
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All done apart from the diff and box, the rain was playing games with me today.
The millers engine oil seems to be good stuff
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^ good stuff. The rear diff will be made easier with a big syringe or similar
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Originally Posted by petethemeat
^ good stuff. The rear diff will be made easier with a big syringe or similar
Would have done it if the the fill plug would come out! Not easy on the floor even with it jacked up on stands would not budge.
Trip to my pals workshop for this I think.
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