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Old 16 October 2012, 01:31 PM
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Default Obd2 elm327 & odb2 spy

Prob won't get a reply here but here goes....

Bought a obd2 elm327 bluetooth interface and have purchesed subscription to obd2 spy software.. Now I have pretty much no knowledge of this area I'm sure the mappers will advise best, but was just looking for software to show me what the car is doing via computer, problem is it just keeps saying no protocal.
I've been reading and it seems there are some dodge elm327's about

I'm sooo lost and would really like to get this up and running any1 with any info it would be great if u could help me out

Ps ... Running a Apexi pfc if that makes a diffrence.


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Old 16 October 2012, 01:42 PM
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what year car ?
Old 16 October 2012, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobynewbie72
what year car ?

99 v5 type r
Old 16 October 2012, 01:54 PM
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I couldn't get the ELM protocol to speak to my JDM. I think someone else has posted something similar.
Old 16 October 2012, 02:04 PM
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Evoscan is the only way for your year iirc,
JDM or UK shouldnt make any difference for OBD monitoring,
newages are a lot easier then classics.
Old 16 October 2012, 02:44 PM
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99 has an OBDII port but uses SSM protocol over this port
Old 16 October 2012, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by d4vidh
99 has an OBDII port but uses SSM protocol over this port
Do u no if there is obd2 Bluetooth interface that uses Ssm protocal that is relatively cheep to buy and can be used with obd2 spy


Cheers

Why dose this have to be so complicated !!!
Old 16 October 2012, 03:13 PM
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The guy how wrote the Torque Pro app for android was looking into accesing the SSM protocol and had some success but this was will certain ecus only I believe and a genuine ELM adaptor (Not a chinese copy)
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Ooops ... Should prob have stated that I'm running a Apexi power FC .... Would this change things ?
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So dose this mean the $30 I paid to obd2 spy was like wipin my ar## with it and puttin it in the loo ! As its not usable with Subaru ?? and let's not talk about the elm327 interface I'm gettin more annoyed by the second..

Thanks all for ur replys I'm sure we will get to the bottom of this very soon
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Originally Posted by L3YMS

evoscan wont work with apexi pfc


Lollll any ideas what will and that won't cost like a million squids
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Old 16 October 2012, 06:35 PM
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As far as I know the Apexi is a replacement ECU that does not have an OBD-II port, nor does it support SSM.

I've never owned one, but I believe you need "Datalogit" software to anything directly with the PFC.
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Think you've had the answers? You have an Apexi, and it has no OBD-II or SSM interface. You need to buy their software, or refit an OEM ecu to see error codes.
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Originally Posted by JTinnovations
Think you've had the answers? You have an Apexi, and it has no OBD-II or SSM interface. You need to buy their software, or refit an OEM ecu to see error codes.

Really ?? The obd 2 port is on the car just below the knee cap on the driver side obviously the obd 2 port isn't on the ecu..

As I said in my 1st post I'm new to this area of the car so cannot comment to much ie ( Ssm)

I'm sure there must be away of looking at what the car is doing on the cheap side .. I don't particularly what to be able to change things just be able to see what is happening that's why I bought the obd2 spy as this would be ideal.

Jt I'm not having a dig at u but there has to b away around this and until I get confirmation from a mapper I prob won't be happy
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Well, you have said that you have an Apexi ECU...google it.
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Originally Posted by JTinnovations
Well, you have said that you have an Apexi ECU...google it.
Yes I have a Apexi ecu... I would like I now what interface and software I need to keep a eye on things via the obd2 port....

Not that I'm been ungrateful but if u don't even no that the type of car I have has a obd2 port why comment ?
Old 19 October 2012, 10:41 PM
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Or did I miss Somthing ?
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Yes, you've missed the point. OBD-II is connected to the ecu...which in your case is NOT the OEM ecu...and in your case your ecu does not support OBD-II.

SSM (Subaru Select Monitor) is a protocol that is specific to Subaru ecus, whereas OBD-II is generic. You have neither.

If you Google you will find that the usual recommendation is to re-fit the OEM ecu in order to detect faults and then read them. I Googled on your behalf and found that the Datalogit software might do the job for you.
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Originally Posted by JTinnovations
Yes, you've missed the point. OBD-II is connected to the ecu...which in your case is NOT the OEM ecu...and in your case your ecu does not support OBD-II.

SSM (Subaru Select Monitor) is a protocol that is specific to Subaru ecus, whereas OBD-II is generic. You have neither.

If you Google you will find that the usual recommendation is to re-fit the OEM ecu in order to detect faults and then read them. I Googled on your behalf and found that the Datalogit software might do the job for you.
Thank u for taking the time to look up for what might be suitable but if I'm honest the elm 327 interface cost me £20 and the software cost me $29, I'm not looking at mapping the car as that is to involved for me lol, just after the basics.
I've looked at the datalogit package and it's over $330 delivered I no I have the aftermarket ecu but surely there must be another alternative..

Thanks again
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Originally Posted by JTinnovations
OBD-II is connected to the ecu
Just to be pedantic and to correct myself...OBD-II is the protocol used to deliver diagnostic information...it is the electrical data interface that is connected to the ECU. It's a moot point, as the Apexi does not support OBD-II.

Originally Posted by crazyspeedfreakz
Thank u for taking the time to look up for what might be suitable but if I'm honest the elm 327 interface cost me £20 and the software cost me $29, I'm not looking at mapping the car as that is to involved for me lol, just after the basics.
I've looked at the datalogit package and it's over $330 delivered I no I have the aftermarket ecu but surely there must be another alternative..
I will be delighted for you if there is a product out there that will do what you want, but I am 99% sure there is not. I have been asked by several mappers if I could adapt our Toucan product to work with Apexi, but there are not enough hours in the day to do everything that's wished for!
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Ah yes - PFC Commander should help: but not OBD-II or SSM of course.
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Alternative to to the FC Datalogit is FC-Hako,which is cheaper option

http://fc-hako.com/pfc/buy/

And this is SW which can help too

http://nachtmensch.blogspot.co.uk/20...-software.html


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