mucka

Recently brought wagon 2000t. i replaced waterpump as guy said it had failed, got everything fitted back today, came to put coolant in and then seems to overflow on coolant tank, then loses water. got me confused . Im in walsall area if anyone is free, shoud start new job monday thats put right pressure on me now (

Wagon Gaz

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Sounds like an air lock to me mate, you need to add the coolant real slow. Do a search on bleeding the system on here.

mucka

Searched mate, and seems few different ones

mucka

Just had another look, got to running temp, wth header tank lid off and water pushing back up. the top rad hose to engine hot!, bottom hose cold......??? any ideas???

mucka

No heat from heaters on full aswell

steve ex vauxhall

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Air lock mate, it's not circulating,
Engine off, squeeze every hose you can see, particularly the bottom one, loads of times,
Cap off expansion tank and fill slowly,
By slowly I mean SLOWLY, a trickle of water is enough.
Top up to level.
Top up the other bottle on the inside of the passenger side wing till its at the max mark.

All caps back on, run engine with the heaters switched on, but on low.

Keep an eye on the level In the expansion tank, but be aware it is a pressurised system, and it will overflow when it gets hot.

Once your temp gauge starts coming up, do not remove the cap until the engine is cold again, then top up to correct level

mucka

Would you suggest me starting all again... and how come fill slowly?, saw on different sites different ways but getting all confusing ha, and then i see about head gasket ...

But many thanks for info seem good step by step

steve ex vauxhall

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Slowly because their a swine to bleed, there's no bleed nipples to open like there are on some cars, I've done mine this way many many times and always worked first time for me.

Maybe worth starting again, if you do, I would remove the top hose from the top of the radiator, and back fill the rad through there, refit, then fill the expansion tank as slowly as possible, and be squeezing the hoses.

Then run with the heater on low, and it should work a treat.

They are just swines mate

mucka

So take the top hose off engine(big tube), and fill through that way,... sounds great way though

steve ex vauxhall

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No.
Take top hose off radiator end, and fill the radiator up to the top.
Refit hose, then fill everything else through the header tank slowly, very very slowly

mucka

Ok cheers bud, weather terrible, so hoping tomoro i can get done, cheers for your help

Steve Whitehorn

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If you still have problems Pole Position are very near you.

http://www.polepositionuk.co.uk/contact-us.php

mucka

Sounds like it boiling from exspansion tan, dont think it would make it lol

mucka

When runnin water bubbling up...but turned car off and water just gone from tank?

steve ex vauxhall

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Let it cool down.
Then top up again.
Cap on.
Then run again.
Wait for fans to cut in and out twice.
Hopefully job done

mucka

Temp normal, but botrom hose still cold

mucka

Just noticed have small trickles of water down pass carpet, felt above and a pipe has water around, fans kicked in been on 10mins not turned off yet

mucka

And boiling water coming out of pass side coolant bottle

scoobyricht

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a good way to refil the cooling system is to take the pipe off the header tank that leads to the turbo. fill up slowly with a funnel and dont let it glug, you are then filling the system from the bottom up and air is expelled thru the header tank. When you see fluid appear in the bottom of the header tank you can finish off filling the normal way. Put the hose back on and start up, heaters set to hot and let it idle upto temp.

Another thing to try is to remove and inspect the thermostat, test by dropping in hot water and see if it opens.

scoobyricht

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is the header tank cap in good condition? check the spring for stiffness and rubber condition.

mucka

The rubber cond is not the best, but had water hot and running but felt bottom hose and dont seem any water going through, fans kicked in but felt rad and stone cold...it is a new thermostat but may try run with out it

scoobwrx94import

if u run without it will take ages and i mean ages for car to heat up it still seems like u have a air lock another way is when ure car is running and header tank full keep squeezing bottom rad hose and watch the header tank with lid of of course and u should see it bubble and burp everytime u squeeze rad hose just keep doing it until it stops burping and u should have all the air out and feel the bottom of rad if it starts to get hot on both sides u should of sorted it works for me done it that way few times hope u get it sorted buddy

mucka

Not fussed about heat, need sorted for new job, thanks for input

scoobyricht

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you could try running with out a thermostat for a short while to see if the water is getting around. it will take ages to get warm and with gobble petrol if you drive it much as it will be running rich/cold adv, especially in this cold weather. top and bottom rad hose should eventually get hot with the fan kicking in and out.

You mentioned that there is water on the passenger carpet, thats a sign the heater matrix is leaking. what year is the car?

scoobwrx94import

if u have water leaking and gubbed heater matrix just join both pipes together under bonnet bypassing matrix to see if it cures ure problem also

mucka

Its a 96. Wass andy small splashes on carpet, im running it at the mo with no stat... and will try that thanks, non of you near to me? Lol

scoobwrx94import

im in angus fookin miles away pal or i would help ya

mucka

Head gasket gone :''(

steve ex vauxhall

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Christ mate, you still at this, I've been out so missed everything today.
What's making you say head gasket?

chocolate_o_brian

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Decent local garage, sniff test and go from there.