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Old 13 January 2013, 07:06 AM
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Default PetrolHeads and marques with "Soul"

What makes a petrol head? And what marques old and new have "soul"? (The Impreza?)
Are German marques more sterile and soul-less? Are we all petrol heads just for using this site?

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Old 13 January 2013, 09:31 AM
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For me a petrol head isnt just about loving fast/sports cars its cars in general in my opionion the only new cars with soul are aston martins old cars I would b here all day my personal favourite's mk1/2 escorts ive had a couple not the fastest car ive owned ( thats my current car 03 wrx ppp) but without a doubt the mk1 escort was the most fun to drive you knew exactly what all 4 wheels were doing
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Are Imprezas soul-less?
Old 13 January 2013, 11:15 AM
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To me petrol heads are people with a fascination with all sorts of cars and bikes, especailly fast ones. I don't think people into one marque or model in that marque are necessarily true petrol heads, in fact quite often they aren't.

For instance a lot of people on this board know a heck of a lot about Imprezas, but many seem to know virtualy nothing about other marques.... true petrol heads take an interest in all marques and although they may have a preference for one they do not dismiss others like many people do on here.

As for soul that is a harder one to answer. All in my opinion of course, but to me BMWs and Mercedes rarely have soul, doesn't make them bad cars... just they are very teutonic in their execution. Ferraris have soul as do most Lambos, Audis don't yet the original Quattro does. Jags do but not the XF, X type or S type. I think it's something to do with heritage, motorsport history and a little bit of quirkiness.

As for the Impreza I think the classic has soul, the rest of them not really and the hatch??....F**k no!
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I think F1 Fan has pretty much summed it up.
Old 13 January 2013, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
To me petrol heads are people with a fascination with all sorts of cars and bikes, especailly fast ones. I don't think people into one marque or model in that marque are necessarily true petrol heads, in fact quite often they aren't.

For instance a lot of people on this board know a heck of a lot about Imprezas, but many seem to know virtualy nothing about other marques.... true petrol heads take an interest in all marques and although they may have a preference for one they do not dismiss others like many people do on here.

As for soul that is a harder one to answer. All in my opinion of course, but to me BMWs and Mercedes rarely have soul, doesn't make them bad cars... just they are very teutonic in their execution. Ferraris have soul as do most Lambos, Audis don't yet the original Quattro does. Jags do but not the XF, X type or S type. I think it's something to do with heritage, motorsport history and a little bit of quirkiness.

As for the Impreza I think the classic has soul, the rest of them not really and the hatch??....F**k no!
You've made sense for once. Is soul "Character"? Does a car that has a tendency to work when it feels like it rather than being 100% reliable have more character?
Or refinement, could a newage Impreza have less "soul or character" than a classic because its a smoother drive.

My cars have been 205 GTI (1.6 and 1.9) - A GTi-6 and a 94WRX and now a TypeR. Which would you say has the least character?


Also with all this in mind, if you buy a merc or audi, do you lose the right to wear the petrol head tag lol?
Old 13 January 2013, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Kwik
You've made sense for once. Is soul "Character"? Does a car that has a tendency to work when it feels like it rather than being 100% reliable have more character?
Or refinement, could a newage Impreza have less "soul or character" than a classic because its a smoother drive.
The classic Impreza is quirky and it was the first and the shape that won most of the world rallies, it's iconic.... and yes it is a bit raw All of which in my eyes give it some soul.

Originally Posted by Kwik
My cars have been 205 GTI (1.6 and 1.9) - A GTi-6 and a 94WRX and now a TypeR. Which would you say has the least character?
The GTi-6 by a mile, but the 205s have the most!

Originally Posted by Kwik
Also with all this in mind, if you buy a merc or audi, do you lose the right to wear the petrol head tag lol?
Not at all, just because you may buy a car with less 'soul' than some does not make you less of a petrol head. As I said a petrol head to me is someone who loves cars and bikes in general.... not just a single marque. An M5 owner has as much right to the petrol head tag as a Spec C owner depending on how myopic they are about their chosen vehicles.

In the late 90s/early 2000s when the Impreza was at its most popular I could never understand why so many Impreza enthusiasts dismissed the Mitsubishi Evo and vice versa. I drove both and thought they were both fantastic machines, I stuck with Imprezas because of the servicing and the small fuel tank on the Evo, not becuase I thought it was a bad car, on the contrary it was stunning.
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petrol heads like different things.

i went autosport yesterday and despite all the exotica there i spent the most time looking at a c reg rs turbo.

but that said i love most cars just old fords bring back great memories.
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I would consider myself to be a petrol head,having owned everthing from an alfa 75 to a citreon visa gti!But i dont think just liking cars makes u a true petrol head,knowing how they actually work and getting your hands dirty with the cars does,in my opinion anyway
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Originally Posted by juniorc
I would consider myself to be a petrol head,having owned everthing from an alfa 75 to a citreon visa gti!But i dont think just liking cars makes u a true petrol head,knowing how they actually work and getting your hands dirty with the cars does,in my opinion anyway
i dont agree at all that knowing how it works or how to fix it really makes you a petrol head.

its a love of cars not mechanics

my dad is a very good mechanic and learnt to fix his car because he had to due to not being able to afford to pay to get it fixed when he was young, but he has no interest in fast cars whatsoever.

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Old 13 January 2013, 04:14 PM
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I agree it has nothing to do with the mechanical side of it.
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Can a Woman be a petrol head?
Old 13 January 2013, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Kwik
Can a Woman be a petrol head?
yup emmaroids has a modded impreza and loves cars and car shows and buys parts all the time or steals them off my car
Old 14 January 2013, 12:14 PM
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Been thinking about this and I reckon there's less real petrol heads around than you might think. It would be fun if someone had time to create a quiz spanning all marques and motorsport disciplines and see how we all score.
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I regard myself as a petrol head for a number of reasons. One of which is the fact that beyond spending time with my wife and kids I would rather spend my time in the company of cars than people.
That might also make me a sad git but so be it.

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Now my old 74 vette rebored to 6.0 litre, stacks of BHP and even more torque . Now that had soul !
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Yes a woman can be a petrol head, I've been with a few that certainly have, not just cars either. I've owned loads and loads of cars including RS, mr2, 205 1.9 gti, Elise's, several 'high end' Imprezas, golf gti's etc. Vehicles I've most enjoyed driving and owning? 2 litre white Scudo van and a Suzuki sj413.
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Been thinking about this and I reckon there's less real petrol heads around than you might think. It would be fun if someone had time to create a quiz spanning all marques and motorsport disciplines and see how we all score.
You say that but is it about knowing who or what marque won what race in what year or is it more about knowing how to tune/map/modify?. Is it neither, is it just being passionate as I'd imagine (and sorry to sound sexist here Emmaroids) but would a female know these things, but still be equally or more passionate about cars/bikes than us?
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I love all cars and bikes but I recon its got a lot to do with the sound they make and the way they smell ( burnt or unburnt fuel, I'm not talking about magic trees here ) it just so happens that the quicker more powerful cars and bikes tend to sound better.

Mick
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Originally Posted by Kwik
You say that but is it about knowing who or what marque won what race in what year or is it more about knowing how to tune/map/modify?. Is it neither, is it just being passionate as I'd imagine (and sorry to sound sexist here Emmaroids) but would a female know these things, but still be equally or more passionate about cars/bikes than us?
Yes, but if you're truly passionate about something you end up knowing about it. I just think there is a huge difference between someone who is a petrol head and someone who is blinkered about just one marque.
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Yes, but if you're truly passionate about something you end up knowing about it. I just think there is a huge difference between someone who is a petrol head and someone who is blinkered about just one marque.
Obviously. If you are blinkered to one marque then you are just a fanatic. But I don't think a petrol head would like/love ALL marques.
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I regard myself as a petrol head although not really into bikes wouldlove one but would prob kill myself so stick with cars :-)

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I would say a true petrol head likes most things mechanical , even a nice looking twin turbo v10 stuck on a display stand ( usually thinking about what they could fit said engine into )

Imprezas don't have soul , tbh I can't think of many Japanese cars that do
Or German come to that
Very clinical and user friendly

Things like beetles , skoda rapide , Austin allegro have more soul ,( not stunning cars )
But come from an era where cars had character and names and if you talked to em nice they would start

Or maybe I've watched to many herbie films
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Originally Posted by toneh
I would say a true petrol head likes most things mechanical , even a nice looking twin turbo v10 stuck on a display stand ( usually thinking about what they could fit said engine into )

Imprezas don't have soul , tbh I can't think of many Japanese cars that do
Or German come to that
Very clinical and user friendly

Things like beetles , skoda rapide , Austin allegro have more soul ,( not stunning cars )
But come from an era where cars had character and names and if you talked to em nice they would start

Or maybe I've watched to many herbie films
Noooooooooooooooooo!! An Allegro does NOT have soul!
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Noooooooooooooooooo!! An Allegro does NOT have soul!
Lol , ok maybe not an allegro , maxi then
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Originally Posted by toneh
Lol , ok maybe not an allegro , maxi then
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