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Old 15 January 2013 | 09:15 PM
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Hi All,

It's not my car, it's actually my dad's car (V4 Sti, 2.5 RCM lump). He needs a little work doing on the simtec as he has a couple of problems.

Now the problem is, the garage he sent it to are refusing to tell him who mapped his car as they have now become mappers and want to charge for the new licence etc...

Now the question is, who mapped it? Mappers..... Do you keep a database? If so is it recorded on reg, chassis number etc?

Hopefully someone can point me on the right track as once it's sorted he want to doing a rolling road map and add some modds.

The simtec was installed and mapped in Bristol.

Thanks in advance.
Old 15 January 2013 | 09:20 PM
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I`m not up on the classics but are the Simtec maps locked like the EcuTek ones, If they are not it wont matter who you take it to and it should`nt need a new license, Speak to Simon JGM he is in you area
Old 15 January 2013 | 09:22 PM
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Tell them to do one, there isn't a license fee on a Simtek!

Mappers do keep a record, try Simon(JGM), Bob Rawle and Duncan(RaceDynamix) as a first port of call, as they are Southern based and travel.

I'm assuming it's a Subaru specialist? If it is, find a new one with that attitude.
Old 15 January 2013 | 09:25 PM
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You posted as I was typing Gaz.

To the best of my knowledge, Simtek are locked to an extent. I believe any mapper can remap one, but, it needs authorisation from the OM or the distributor. It needs to be a full new map though, not tweaking another's IP.
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Thanks guys.

Micky, you're confirming what I suspected. I was hoping the likes of the mentioned may see the post.

If memory serves me correctly I remember being told it was mapped by the creator of simtec. Wasn't the creation a dual effort and parties have now separated hence simtec v2 and alcatec?
Old 15 January 2013 | 10:04 PM
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the "creator" was Steve Simpson although he didn't actually build/design any ECU's as such (no doubt he had input in their development)
original Simtek is actually an Alcatek product, and it is these which are now re-branded

the "new" Simtek is a GEMS unit...............

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Hi Markfey,

If you are cool with a spanner - remove the ecu cover and ecu and remove the cover..
txt or email me a picture of the board.. I can then tell you the ecu (whether Simtek2 or Alcatek) and if Alcatek I can contact them to tell you who mapped it..

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I'm pretty sure it's a simtec. Am I correct in thinking that its in the passenger footwell?

Thanks Simon, I'll get my dad on it in the morning. I've mentioned your name to him and Surrey rolling road several times so hopefully we'll be able to organise something soon.
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If its a problem to get to the ecu I am at surrey rr tomorrow, welcome to pop the car up and we can pull the ecu out and check.

the slightly problem is they are both called simtek so would just depend which one
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Thanks Simon. A little bit too short a notice unfortunately but ill pm you or email you tomorrow with the details and a couple of photos.
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Hi Simon / All

He's had the car apart and taken the following photos. Hope this is what you need. Just waiting for a pic of the box it came in and i'll upload that next



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Thats whats needed
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It gets better simon, he's just rung me and told me that there was a wire coming out of it that he traced and led to no where.

He then checked his map switch and found that wasn't connected either.

As you can guess, he's not a happy bunny.
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Another update...

The garage have come back to him now and said it was Steve Simpson that mapped the car.

Simon.... If you were to do another map would a licence fee have to be paid or can this be avoided? Or... Would it be best to contact Steve Simpson first?
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There is no licence fee.

The ecu will be coded to steve so I would have to load a map and map it from scratch.

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Rip off strikes again ,
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Was originally supplied by Dave Rowe and last mapped by Steve Simpson, just heard back from manufacturer
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Thanks Simon. How much will that be at Surrey rolling road with yourself with a dyno?
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Originally Posted by toneh
Rip off strikes again ,
I can only write to it as wasnt suppling dealer
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Originally Posted by Markfey
Thanks Simon. How much will that be at Surrey rolling road with yourself with a dyno?
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Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
I can only write to it as wasnt suppling dealer
Was that for me or quoting on the original. Do i need to track down Simon and see what he can do?
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Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
I can only write to it as wasnt suppling dealer
Wasn't aimed at you Simon , it was the ops comment in his first post

The garage not wanting to divulge the info
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Originally Posted by Markfey
Thanks Simon. How much will that be at Surrey rolling road with yourself with a dyno?
Originally Posted by Markfey
Was that for me or quoting on the original. Do i need to track down Simon and see what he can do?
No was in response to tone who I now see was referring to your first post
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Originally Posted by toneh
Wasn't aimed at you Simon , it was the ops comment in his first post

The garage not wanting to divulge the info
Oh then I agree its unfortunate situation for op
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Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
Oh then I agree its unfortunate situation for op
Lol , what are you doing man , have yiu gone mad you can't agree with me it's now in s/n terms and conditions
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Originally Posted by toneh
Wasn't aimed at you Simon , it was the ops comment in his first post

The garage not wanting to divulge the info
Originally Posted by toneh
Lol , what are you doing man , have yiu gone mad you can't agree with me it's now in s/n terms and conditions
Lol. Just on this occasion. Mind you tbh I am not sure we have disagreed and aired it before tone?
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Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
Lol. Just on this occasion. Mind you tbh I am not sure we have disagreed and aired it before tone?
Lol I can't remember ( I've had so many )
Btw Simon have you any plans to pop up to Jason's in the near future ?
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Thanks Simon, You're a legend!

Does anyone have a phone number for Steve Simpson by any chance?
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Originally Posted by Markfey
Thanks Simon, You're a legend!

Does anyone have a phone number for Steve Simpson by any chance?
07836 635001 was the last one I used!
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Thanks Alan!!!

I've spoken to Steve SIMPSON and what a top bloke!

As originally thought, it appears it's the garage/tuner/technician at not the mapper who has royally screwed him over.

All booked in with Steve now so it should all be sorted soon.

Thanks for your help all, especially JGM.



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