Ok barring a £2000 price difference on my insurance quote whats the difference between a uk turbo 2000 and a wrx??

 

I wouldn't mind knowing this lol as im in same boat , wrx is stupid money to insure know than the turbo 2000!

 

A WRX is a JDM car, i.e. an import. It will have a little more power and a few extras like rear wiper. I'd not pay £2k extra for insurance for one!

 

£2k!!!?? My entire car cost less than 2K (X reg turbo 2000) I can only imagine you are 17 or have just passed your test!?

If you get one with PPP (or similar mods) they are around 245-250bhp, so not much down on power over an import.
Worth the 2k extra insurance...nah mate.

 

A Classic WRX is effectively an STi in that the late ones had the 276 bhp (280PS) engine, lightweight suspension arms, aluminium bonnet, rear wiper, no headlight wash, folding door mirrors, and other tweaks which have slipped my mind.

I say effectively an STi as I do not believe they had the full STi engine internals in terms of strength but mine went like a train and I was very sorry to see it go. In my opinion, it was a better car than my Hawkeye STi and I still miss the combination of power, road holding and relatively comfortable compliant suspension. It was a real wolf in sheep's clothing - see my garage.

Not sure if things have relaxed but some main dealers refused to service (probably not a problem to you) or supply parts for imports even though they would have been the same as the UK cars. Consequently, obtaining parts for things like accident damage could be tricky and may require obtaining directly from Japan.

Hope that helps explain the insurance difference.

 

I bought an x reg turbo 2000 which i pay £400ish on insurance and the wrx was just under £3k!! No contest on which 1 i went for ;-) im 29 with 10years ncd also :-D

 

Should have shopped around. Can get it way cheaper than £3k.

 

The insurance difference between grey imports and UK cars is shocking, I remember when looking at quotes last year, the insurance was almost the same value as the car (96 WRX).

 

You chaps really need to shop around. There is not that much difference when you use a specialist.
I drive a 400+ classic sti, fully comp, all mods declared, 29, 5 years ncb. £595 all in.

 

Whos that with?

 

I am 32 with a 400BHP STi Type R and paying about £650.

This is with Keith Michaels.

 

Keith Michaels

You must use a specialist to get the best deals.

 

As long as you fit their criteria

I've owned a few different 'fast' cars over the years, but because I haven't had one in the last year (Trying to save money!) most specialists wouldn't insure me, if they did, it was more than the high street insurers.

 

You just need to be a good risk to them. I'm 28, 5 years Ncb, did have three points for a ts10 and have a non fault write off on my name. £575 with Moley a d he gets a Christmas card every year

 

Ha. im 28, 4 years NCD, licence for 10 years, no points, never banned, no claims that are my fault, decent postcode. But It couldnt be done...

 

ones sh1te,
the other really sh1te

 

Could be worse:


It could've happened to me

 

You're right, could have aids....

 

Have you tried moley ??

 

Maybe I'm wrong, but a JDM WRX is not a WRX STI.

The STI has a different engine (regardless of advertised hp), different turbo, different gearbox, different brakes and other spec changes.

There are different WRX's such as the Type RA which was for rally homologation. But there WRX and WRX STI are different cars.

The T2000 is a Euro/UK version of the WRX only minus some spec items, smaller options list, no Type RA versions and making less power due to being setup for lower octane fuel.

 

By the end of the classic shape the difference between sti and wrx was minimal.
They have always shared the same engine except the sti got forged pistons and a slightly larger intercooler. Gearboxes were the same in both cars, yes turbos differed but cars made the same power at the end. In the early days the sti made more but not much. Brakes were the same etc etc.

 

Isn't that effectively what I said and, in those days, I believe all WRXs and STis were JDM.

 

No one has mentioned the gearboxes are WAY different on the ratios, about 1000rpm apart at 70mph. The uk car is a much more relaxed motorway cruiser than the JDM car. But with a decent hike in torque there is little difference in acceleration.

 

Who buys an impreza to be a motorway cruiser though

A standard wrx is a superior car and will accelerate much faster than a uk turbo. However, with a couple of very minor changes a uk car can be more than a match for a wrx.

 

Isn't that what I said?

On the dual carriageway at "high motorway speeds" the longer legs on my uk box help it return a very respectable 27mpg, not that I am that bothered

 

Not 100% sure on this but I thought the straight WRX had the same, or similar, ratios as the UK. I never felt my WRX was revving particularly highly at motorway speeds.

The Type R, RA, etc had the shorter ratios.

 

The differences between say a 99uk turbo and a 99 sti or minimal.

1st, 2nd and 3rd are slightly shorter on the sti but 4th and 5th are the same ratio. Final drive on the uk is 3.415 compared to 3.333 on the wrx and sti.

The type r and type ra are a different story though.

 

As previously said a 99-00 Wrx is practically an sti mine is a my00 Wrx import with full sti spec from factory ( 276 bhp ,sti seats ,red suspension ,high spoiler ,rear lights,spats ,gearbox amd rear diff etc etc ) only thing it didn't have was sti forged internals which it now has due to version 8 bottom end and p1 heads rebuild
Hence difference in insurance quote , I have owned both uk turbo 2000 and my current import and would not go back to a uk as in standard form it doesn't come close to the spec of a standard import. (Based on a non prodrive uk turbo with standard 214 bhp)

 

I replaced my 2000 gearbox with a jap short shift box and it made a total difference it allowed me to achive a 13.4 run at York on a std engine and turbo.

 

Interesting. All the imported classics I have tried (admittedly early ones) have been noticeably rev happy compared to the uk car. On my Uk car I get 2700rpm at 70mph and 3500rpm at 90 in 5th. What do the JDM cars get?

On the other issue I agree the JDM cars are more lively out of the box. Having driven some JDM cars I was prompted to Prodrive both my UK cars to achieve similar feeling cars, and am happy with the results for daily drivers

One note, the standard brakes on both are equally horrendous. Know liitle of the differences between the newage cars tho.