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Old 29 February 2004 | 05:32 PM
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What!!!!! sun at KH OMG, excellent track day.

Johnny50, sorry for being a little late m8 I think I just missed you by about 10mins.
Good day overall, but not for one person OUCH.
Some of the driving was getting a bit suspect at one point, mainly from people who brought race-cars nice to meet Dave from DR Motorsport, Mrs has been pestering me now for a DV after hearing your HKS one on the track
How quick was that Radical !!!! I need one of those

John P you have mail
Hopefully be able to come to the next one aswell (only to spectate though still not brave enough to put the Scoob on the track) and next time I'll hopefully be able to get to the meeting point on time.

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Old 29 February 2004 | 05:39 PM
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Who was doing the dodgey driving in a race car? Silver Escort Cossie?
Didn't make it up so you will need to fill me in. Who stuffed it, was it an Elise?

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Old 29 February 2004 | 06:05 PM
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Yep Dark blue Elise. Gold leaf one was parked in the litter for a wee while too.

Didn't see you there John.You were parked just along from my Punto.(LOL!)

Did caych Johnny And EVOjkp(How's the brakes,John?).

Weather was good. Did notice lot of track/race Prepped cars though.

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Old 29 February 2004 | 07:38 PM
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Radical was not as quick as silver escort. There was no dodgy driving, just some drivers that are better than others and some slow scoobys with crap brakes
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John and Alan, thanks for the photos, some REALLY good ones, especially down at the hairpin. I could'nt appreciate the amount of roll the car had, especially with those new springs. There great on the road but way too soft on the track.

Steve, nice to meet you mate, yeah the brakes lasted,...just!! It's amazing how brake fade can focus the mind, especially into Duffus.

All in all, a very enjoyable day as I was a bit 'worried' about going back on track after nearly two years, but you get easily hooked again.

Good Points about today...

- MacD's egg and sausage meal to start off
- Weather??!! WTF happened there. The whole of Scotland under snow appart from KH??!!
- Getting a good feel for the car and REALLY enjoying it
- Coming thru' Clark two abreast with the GT3 RS and tandem drifting together. Quality moment!!
- Getting the car home in one piece

Bad Points....
- Amount of fuel used (approx 6mpg )
- Tyre wear
- Length of time to book on, although the KH license should cut this out in future
- Tw@t who left blood on the optimax pump handle in Dunfermline, that I did not notice until I'd grabbed it. Well I suppose it is Fife!!
- Some dodgy driving from two certain individuals, who nearly took me out, one being the Radical, who nearly swiped my side at Duffus, on the final cool down lap. Obviously took time for the hormones to abait and the wee Renault 5, who had torville as a passenger, as he was skating all over the place and thought it would be a good idea to lunge by at the hairpin

Really looking forward doing more over the year as I'm reinfected with the trackbug.

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Old 29 February 2004 | 07:53 PM
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Radical was not as quick as silver escort. There was no dodgy driving, just some drivers that are better than others and some slow scoobys with crap brakes
Mick yer probably right mate. The Cossie was v.quick, but I don't think the radical was being pushed all that hard. It totally left me on the straights...surprise, surprise.

In that sort of company today the Scoobs were the slowest around the curcuit and yes the brakes were crap but it was good fun mate.

Got to disagree about the dodgy driving, some drivers were better than others, but the good ones also run out of talent at times.

..John
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HI SOOB escort was going really well, emerson was told he was scaring the other drivers by out braking them into the corners, he was driving well until the gearbox gave up again.The brakes are totally awesome.
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Originally Posted by evojkp
Mick yer probably right mate. The Cossie was v.quick, but I don't think the radical was being pushed all that hard. It totally left me on the straights...surprise, surprise.

In that sort of company today the Scoobs were the slowest around the curcuit and yes the brakes were crap but it was good fun mate.

Got to disagree about the dodgy driving, some drivers were better than others, but the good ones also run out of talent at times.

..John
Have got a p1 myself the brakes are crap, was in the escort with my brother and we passed the radical easily up the straight, the white porsche was also quick.It was good fun until the gearbox on the escort gave up.Never mind more work for next weekend.
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MickW, scaring drivers is a bit of an understatement, he was stopping it on it's nose from silly speeds Was good to watch. Was that what the marshals requested a chat about??
What brakes are fitted to it?
Old 29 February 2004 | 08:12 PM
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MickW, scaring drivers is a bit of an understatement, he was stopping it on it's nose from silly speeds Was good to watch. Was that what the marshals requested a chat about??
What brakes are fitted to it?
Just asked him to take it easy. The front brakes are 362mm AP 6 pots and the rears are 335 AP 4 pots, first event with the full set-up fitted. He thinks he can brake even later when the tyres get some heat in them, track was to cold today
Old 29 February 2004 | 08:20 PM
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FFS that would explain it then.

Catch you at the next one. Or not as it was proven today!!

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Old 29 February 2004 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by evojkp
FFS that would explain it then.

Catch you at the next one. Or not as it was proven today!!

...John
HA HA it is only a gearbox easy fix
Old 29 February 2004 | 08:26 PM
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Anyone find any bits of Ford BDA at the hairpin? Shug Rutherford blew his engine big style there last night. Left oil all over the corner too.
Old 29 February 2004 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by evojkp
MickW, scaring drivers is a bit of an understatement

Hi guyz,

An amazin' day out and my tyres were trashed so i must have had fun

Can't be arsed making contraversial statements after such a crackin' day however, I was forced to hit the brakes so violently that ABS cut in on me @ 80 mph after having to move ofy my line for the dueling lime green Elise / Cossie - I hit the horn at the time. Fair enough one car doing that but having 3 cars going into the same bend at 70 + was a phukin' joke. I complained to the marshall cos it was downright dangerous ........Driving hard / competitively is fair enough but driving like a **** isn't - I dont question the drivers ability, just the blatant disregard for others. I note the Cossie was black flagged and the seriously dodgy driver in the Elise later span and had a cone wedged under his arch ...................Anyway, we all have our moments, its just if people keep driving like this then it'll end up becoming like Hot Hatch where driving standards are appaling...........Rant over

I'd like to say that everyone elses drivin' was spot one with safe drivin' and frequent acknowledgements all round .............Had tremendous fun

Was good to meet Evo Jkp, Judge & Jamie & the chap from DR Motosport - nice chariots all round ......met

Looin' forward to reviewing the camcorder footage

Cheers guyz

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Old 29 February 2004 | 08:57 PM
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CIVIC TYPE R I thought knockhill was a race track, marshall apologised for taking silver escort off the track but he had to be seen doing something. You did not have the racing line because the escort was in front of you. If you had listened at the briefing you are allowed to overtake under braking.Get a bigger set of brakes.
Old 29 February 2004 | 09:31 PM
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And thats why I stayed at home and painted the house!!!!

Put the bloody toys back in yer prams and wipe your dummies. God damn kids!

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Old 29 February 2004 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by HI SOOB
And thats why I stayed at home and painted the house!!!!

Put the bloody toys back in yer prams and wipe your dummies. God damn kids!

HI SOOB (DIY king)
I think you are not telling us the full story, your car is still in the garage so you had to stay and paint the house.
Old 29 February 2004 | 09:44 PM
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Yer ****! Had wheels but couldn't be bothered, I had the monster truck from work.
Besides, it would just have been the usuall track action with the "ultimate track cars", the Elise's! So thats why Matey stuffed his then. Should have kept his Rover.

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Originally Posted by HI SOOB
Yer ****! Had wheels but couldn't be bothered, I had the monster truck from work.
Besides, it would just have been the usuall track action with the "ultimate track cars", the Elise's! So thats why Matey stuffed his then. Should have kept his Rover.

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Nice bit of frontal damage,i think Mr tvr will need a new set of boxers.
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Have to agree, what a great day out.
And nice to put faces to some of the names on here.

Never really saw too much bad driving today, seen worse at SIDC days from certain individuals, but people were having their own close battles on track so it's better to leave them to it.

Did see the Renault Turbo2 getting black flagged though.

Managed to use 3/4 of a tank, plus 2 x 20litre containers. All for 120 miles or about 100 laps. Think that works out about 6-7 mpg. Plus a full set of Mintex pads, front and rear (but they weren't new).
So a nice cheap day out.


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Aye..turned out to be a great day.
Think i even caught the sun..

John...sorry we nipped away from mcd's...but the rest were moaning at me to go..so sorry i missed you there.

Have to agree...was some dodgy driving on track though..especially when some of the slower cars were picking bad places to slow and let people past..

But..at least they wern't blocking i suppose.
Cant wait till next time...hopefully i'll be ready for the track too.
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Hi all again, just want to clarify some of my earlier statements, I'm not tring to get at people about their driving, just some people might need reminding 95% of the cars on the track are peoples own day-to-day cars so stuffing your race-preped car down the inside of them at the last moment isn't the cleverest of things to be doing IMO, especially when most of these people don't have the track experience of somebody who races for a hobby. Yes I do agree that it is fun to have some competition but not when it could cost somebody a shed load of cash to repair somebody else's over eagerness.

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CIVIC TYPE R I thought knockhill was a race track, marshall apologised for taking silver escort off the track but he had to be seen doing something. You did not have the racing line because the escort was in front of you. If you had listened at the briefing you are allowed to overtake under braking.Get a bigger set of brakes.
I'll post the video clip and you can see for yourself - I'd already let Tut past in the knowledge that he was safe - you guys jumped in at the very end of the straight when I'd already started turning in ! Let's not labour the point, I merely wanted to express my opinion. Yes, it's a race track but it's a track day. How can you predict what the lime green Elise was gonna do ? I'll let u see the video before I present you with some custard for your humble pie

LOL.........let's keep this amicable and not let it turn into a slagging match

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Here's a piccy of the fella who had an unfortunate incident ..........

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Where did the elise go off?

Did the tyres last ok cal?

dying to get back on track now
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Hey Foz,

Tyres were great but pretty caned now ! Not sure where the Elise went off but I beleive it made contact wtih the tyre wall

Looking forward the seeing yer new beast in action - there was an S2000 out on track on Sunday - loose back end to say the least !

Anyone see that Cayenne with the 22" pimp rims ?

Cal
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The Cayenne looked awesome...pity it never went out.
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Hi all,had another great day at KH yesterday,the track and weather were fantastic.It was good to put a few faces to names (Civic type R,Sti spec A,Subarstar,AndyUK300 to name but a few) Tremendous cars in attendance on and off track.The Porshe GT3's were scary fast as was the Cossie Escort.I personally thought the driving was some of the best I have experienced at KH with everybody affording due respect to the faster and slower cars,there were a couple of exceptions as always but on the whole v good.

Never enjoyed screwing a set of front tyres so much!
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Judge,
i,m sure u will agree the crap driving was done by that tw@t in the new astra/cavalier that overtook subarstar and yourself on the road from kh to tulliallen. then decided to make another idiotic move to get past me and grant on what was solid whites plus an extra couple of cars in front of us . apart from that it was an excellent day, must agree about the GT3 RS. totally awesome
thanx again for the pax laps, most impressed. called Dalgetty Bay today, now in the decision phase

cheers
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More of the same on the 20th!!

Book up fast lads!


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