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07 September 2005, 10:07 PM
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Dont think it was England being pants.... first half we was pretty good, just didnt have the time and space to play their football, reminded me alot of the chelsea/Liverpool game in the Champions league....
N.I played extremely well and showed some good fitness levels to keep us at bay... Well done them I say, maybe theyve done us a favour in the sense that we can sack Sven now
N.I played extremely well and showed some good fitness levels to keep us at bay... Well done them I say, maybe theyve done us a favour in the sense that we can sack Sven now
07 September 2005, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
Dont think it was England being pants.... first half we was pretty good, just didnt have the time and space to play their football, reminded me alot of the chelsea/Liverpool game in the Champions league....
N.I played extremely well and showed some good fitness levels to keep us at bay... Well done them I say, maybe theyve done us a favour in the sense that we can sack Sven now
N.I played extremely well and showed some good fitness levels to keep us at bay... Well done them I say, maybe theyve done us a favour in the sense that we can sack Sven now
Well done to NI for winning but they are a 4th rate team and shouldn't have had a hope in hell.
England are a joke.
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07 September 2005, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by The Chief
What do you reckon? England were pants tonight!
All that will get mentioned is that it is his first defeat in quailifiers !!!
Not that his is tacticaly usless !!!
07 September 2005, 10:12 PM
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N.I. played well and i wont take anything away from them, they deserved to win, but as discussed on the BBC, England is full of world class players and shoudl have done better.
Yep Off with his 'ead!!!
Yep Off with his 'ead!!!
07 September 2005, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
Dont think it was England being pants.... first half we was pretty good, just didnt have the time and space to play their football, reminded me alot of the chelsea/Liverpool game in the Champions league....
N.I played extremely well and showed some good fitness levels to keep us at bay... Well done them I say, maybe theyve done us a favour in the sense that we can sack Sven now
N.I played extremely well and showed some good fitness levels to keep us at bay... Well done them I say, maybe theyve done us a favour in the sense that we can sack Sven now
Its crap lads weve sometimes looked like we can match anyone when we play 4-4-2 so WHY CHANGE ?
And the thing that bugs me the most WHY does Sven keep on playing lads that clearly are not fit ie. Steven Gerrard tonight he did it with Becks in the last world cup!!!! And we clearly need a PROPER left sided player they don't have to be quick just skillful ie Stewart Downing when fit or even at the outside Gareth Barry not the quickest but reliable so Cole can bomb on like he usually does
Win the world cup???????????? We'll be lucky to get past the group stages in Germany if we continue like this!!!!!!!!!!!!!
07 September 2005, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Den
Awe - what's up did England get beat? 
Never mind you did win the 1966 World Cup - as always gets brought up
Never mind you did win the 1966 World Cup - as always gets brought up
07 September 2005, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by The Chief
N.I. played well and i wont take anything away from them, they deserved to win, but as discussed on the BBC, England is full of world class players and shoudl have done better.
Yep Off with his 'ead!!!
Yep Off with his 'ead!!!
If and its a massive if, we ever stand any chance of wining anything we should
be demolisting side like N.I !! I mean Walse are ranked 78th in the world and we win 1-0 and we are suppossed to be happy with it ??
Didn't Poland smack Azerbtan ( Spelling ?? ) 8-0 ??
Get an English man in charge !! Look at the turn around the Jocks have had since they got rid of Berti !!!
07 September 2005, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Scooby-Mark
How can a team full of players regualy playing top flight domestic football and champions league football be beaten by a nation where they pick players from teams from lower leagues !! Luton Town, Plymouth, Leeds etc....
Originally Posted by Scooby-Mark
Get an English man in charge !! Look at the turn around the Jocks have had since they got rid of Berti !!!
All IMO of course.
07 September 2005, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Wmscooby
I agree with all this but we have one bad result against Denmark then all of a sudden we go 4-5-1
Its crap lads weve sometimes looked like we can match anyone when we play 4-4-2 so WHY CHANGE ?
Its crap lads weve sometimes looked like we can match anyone when we play 4-4-2 so WHY CHANGE ?
Originally Posted by Wmscooby
And the thing that bugs me the most WHY does Sven keep on playing lads that clearly are not fit ie. Steven Gerrard tonight he did it with Becks in the last world cup!!!! And we clearly need a PROPER left sided player they don't have to be quick just skillful ie Stewart Downing when fit or even at the outside Gareth Barry not the quickest but reliable so Cole can bomb on like he usually does
Originally Posted by Wmscooby
Win the world cup???????????? We'll be lucky to get past the group stages in Germany if we continue like this!!!!!!!!!!!!!
07 September 2005, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by swiftnick
Big Sam Allardyce?
Look how he has made Charlton an established Premier league side with little
or no money down the years !!!
07 September 2005, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Den
Cos they are all premadona pretty boys where as the NI team play as a team, for each other and with pride
Every time the cameras showed the bench it was only ever Steve McCalran jumping up and down and screaming orders out !!!
07 September 2005, 10:31 PM
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We should stick to what we do best 4 4 2 with Beckham on the right and Rooney /Owen up front.
Thats how we beat Germany 4-0.Fergie always played Beckham on the right as well.
Thats how we beat Germany 4-0.Fergie always played Beckham on the right as well.
07 September 2005, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Scooby-Mark
What can we expect when we have a Swede in charge, the only passion he has got is the vast ammount the F.A waste on him each year !!!!
Every time the cameras showed the bench it was only ever Steve McCalran jumping up and down and screaming orders out !!!
Every time the cameras showed the bench it was only ever Steve McCalran jumping up and down and screaming orders out !!!
07 September 2005, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by paulr
Its not his style,doesnt mean he isnt a good manager.Its not all about shouting you know.Did Rooney lack passion,of course not,but his best position is just off the main striker not on the left wing.
07 September 2005, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Scooby-Mark
I know it aint his style, tactics don't seem to be either !!
Bring on Hargreaves
07 September 2005, 11:18 PM
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rubbish, wasn't it?
it's interesting to compare the england rugby XV of 2003, the current england cricket XI and the current england football XI.
the first beat the best southern hemisphere side in the world with arguably the most potent rugby XV ever fielded in probably the toughest contact sport in the world and also away from home - on the other side of the world.
the second has spent the last 15 years cultivating youth and talent to develop our longest continued spell of winning cricket as no. 2 seed in the world, taking on another world-beating australian side in arguably the subtlest, most unpredictable and most skilled sport in the world - and has forced our oldest sporting foe to stare defeat in the face through a stunning combination of skill, motivation, aggression, pride and unity.
and the latter? well, tonight's result says it all. consistently top 10 seeded, we can't even beat a side seeded around 44 in the world rankings. in a world cup qualifier. when we have, on paper, yet another quality side.
all our other major sports run in cycles of respectable success. with the sole exception of football - unless a 40 year cycle of success at the highest level can be defined as acceptable (if anyone can really believes we can actually take the 06 world cup).
but then again, when the manager has been twice caught with his pecker in either a celebrity or a kiss-and-tell honeytrapper, whose pitchside demeanour is to sit still and say nothing and fights shy of hands-on input in training, then what can you expect? the fish rots from the head down - and england football is rotten - with perhaps the sole exceptions of beckham and owen.
more's the pity. in fact, bobby moore would be sick to his stomach were he still alive.
what a desperately bad show ...
it's interesting to compare the england rugby XV of 2003, the current england cricket XI and the current england football XI.
the first beat the best southern hemisphere side in the world with arguably the most potent rugby XV ever fielded in probably the toughest contact sport in the world and also away from home - on the other side of the world.
the second has spent the last 15 years cultivating youth and talent to develop our longest continued spell of winning cricket as no. 2 seed in the world, taking on another world-beating australian side in arguably the subtlest, most unpredictable and most skilled sport in the world - and has forced our oldest sporting foe to stare defeat in the face through a stunning combination of skill, motivation, aggression, pride and unity.
and the latter? well, tonight's result says it all. consistently top 10 seeded, we can't even beat a side seeded around 44 in the world rankings. in a world cup qualifier. when we have, on paper, yet another quality side.
all our other major sports run in cycles of respectable success. with the sole exception of football - unless a 40 year cycle of success at the highest level can be defined as acceptable (if anyone can really believes we can actually take the 06 world cup).
but then again, when the manager has been twice caught with his pecker in either a celebrity or a kiss-and-tell honeytrapper, whose pitchside demeanour is to sit still and say nothing and fights shy of hands-on input in training, then what can you expect? the fish rots from the head down - and england football is rotten - with perhaps the sole exceptions of beckham and owen.
more's the pity. in fact, bobby moore would be sick to his stomach were he still alive.
what a desperately bad show ...
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