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Old 24 January 2014, 07:39 AM
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Default Wagon mods and alignment Opinions?

Yesterday I had an alignment session, after adding a rear 22mm arb, solid links, steering bushes, camber bolts and a roll centre kit to my 05 wagon, which already had Eibach springs. Even before alignment it all felt much more stable, and the ride felt smoother, tracking the lumps and bumps of the road, rather than skipping around on it.
I booked the alignment session, and asked beforehand if he could do customised alignment... "yeah yeah, bring your own settings" so I took along one of Bonesetter`s setups, with the expectation that we would end up somewhere between oem settings and his. Bonesetter`s setup was dismissed as "just for track", and I ended up with just a toe adjustment, as far as I can see.
This is what I got; Front toe left +0.1 camber -1 05
Front toe right 0.0 camber -0 14

Rear toe left -0.6 camber -1.34
Rear toe right+0.8 camber -1.40

plus thrust angle and cross camber, but no castor. No attempt was made with front camber, and to be fair I only paid for toe alignment. The car handles much better, but the steering feels light due to minimal toe in. What difference would I see with more front camber, and what will having rear toe in but no front toe do? I am about to do a European road trip with lots of motorway, so it may all be for the good. Opinions?

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Old 26 January 2014, 12:38 PM
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Which particular settings did you ask for?

If you have a long road trip coming up, then for sure you need a less aggressive set-up to be kind on your tyres
Old 26 January 2014, 06:49 PM
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There`s the man! Thanks for replying. Your set up was for a bug wagon, .08 toe all round and camber of -1.45, bit less on rear. Currently it feels pretty good, with much better steering response, and a better ride than before, but the rear toe seems a bit at odds ?
Old 26 January 2014, 08:02 PM
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you wont get -1.45 front camber on a bug or a blob wagon on standard shocks, the max I got was -1.05 and that was with camber bolts in the lower clevis. The later model may be different.
.00 toe in the fronts but a bit of toe out on the rears is what I prefer.
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Old 26 January 2014, 08:22 PM
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Your toe settings need sorting out. Some are toe-ing in & some out. I would imagine from your figures the left rear wants to come round on you and generally the car is frustatingly squirmy

A little bit of toe-in all round (~0.08°) works well.
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Thanks; off to French mountains tomorrow, so I`ll chase it up with a different place in a couple of weeks
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