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09 September 2010, 07:27 PM
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Bit Of A Moan
Just going to have a bit of a moan here guys
Im currently out of work and on the hunt for a job. After many applications over the last few weeks still nothing at the moment
What is really bugging me though is the attitude some companies adopt, most companies ask for a written application and c.v to be posted to them which i duely do,then a week or two goes by and not a word. So is it not company policy anymore to reply to a job application if you are unsucesfull? phoned a company up this morning (Comet) who didnt have a clue what to say to me about my recent application and was told to go to the store i applied to
Anyway,im trying to get in to Car sales if possible but have no experience in that job. I've offered to work a couple of days for free to learn the trade but still no intrest. Just goes to show the way society is going that people cant even be botherd to communicate anymore. How hard is it to write a letter or pick a phone up?
RANT OVER!!!!!!!!!
Im currently out of work and on the hunt for a job. After many applications over the last few weeks still nothing at the moment
What is really bugging me though is the attitude some companies adopt, most companies ask for a written application and c.v to be posted to them which i duely do,then a week or two goes by and not a word. So is it not company policy anymore to reply to a job application if you are unsucesfull? phoned a company up this morning (Comet) who didnt have a clue what to say to me about my recent application and was told to go to the store i applied to
Anyway,im trying to get in to Car sales if possible but have no experience in that job. I've offered to work a couple of days for free to learn the trade but still no intrest.
Just goes to show the way society is going that people cant even be botherd to communicate anymore. How hard is it to write a letter or pick a phone up?RANT OVER!!!!!!!!!
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It's very frustrating Calvin, you think a bit of manners, by way of a reply would be easy !! Even to let you know either way !! Good luck with the hunt mate - anything I see I'll let you know 
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Very frustrating though not getting a call or letter, even it is too say no..
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Sorry to hear this mate looking for a job sucks! It took me 3 months to get my first Civvie job when I left the Army, kept getting either no replies from my CV or not enough experience!! Went with two companies for free for a couple of weeks each who were both happy with my work but didn't wanna take me on which pissed me right off!
Determination is the key, if your CV looks spot on then you'll have no problems, keep it short, 2 pages is plenty, any more and they'll lose interest!!
looking for a job sucks! It took me 3 months to get my first Civvie job when I left the Army, kept getting either no replies from my CV or not enough experience!! Went with two companies for free for a couple of weeks each who were both happy with my work but didn't wanna take me on which pissed me right off! Determination is the key, if your CV looks spot on then you'll have no problems, keep it short, 2 pages is plenty, any more and they'll lose interest!!
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Sorry to hear this mate looking for a job sucks! It took me 3 months to get my first Civvie job when I left the Army, kept getting either no replies from my CV or not enough experience!! Went with two companies for free for a couple of weeks each who were both happy with my work but didn't wanna take me on which pissed me right off!
Determination is the key, if your CV looks spot on then you'll have no problems, keep it short, 2 pages is plenty, any more and they'll lose interest!!
looking for a job sucks! It took me 3 months to get my first Civvie job when I left the Army, kept getting either no replies from my CV or not enough experience!! Went with two companies for free for a couple of weeks each who were both happy with my work but didn't wanna take me on which pissed me right off! Determination is the key, if your CV looks spot on then you'll have no problems, keep it short, 2 pages is plenty, any more and they'll lose interest!!
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Just going to have a bit of a moan here guys
Im currently out of work and on the hunt for a job. After many applications over the last few weeks still nothing at the moment
What is really bugging me though is the attitude some companies adopt, most companies ask for a written application and c.v to be posted to them which i duely do,then a week or two goes by and not a word. So is it not company policy anymore to reply to a job application if you are unsucesfull? phoned a company up this morning (Comet) who didnt have a clue what to say to me about my recent application and was told to go to the store i applied to
Anyway,im trying to get in to Car sales if possible but have no experience in that job. I've offered to work a couple of days for free to learn the trade but still no intrest. Just goes to show the way society is going that people cant even be botherd to communicate anymore. How hard is it to write a letter or pick a phone up?
RANT OVER!!!!!!!!!
Im currently out of work and on the hunt for a job. After many applications over the last few weeks still nothing at the moment
What is really bugging me though is the attitude some companies adopt, most companies ask for a written application and c.v to be posted to them which i duely do,then a week or two goes by and not a word. So is it not company policy anymore to reply to a job application if you are unsucesfull? phoned a company up this morning (Comet) who didnt have a clue what to say to me about my recent application and was told to go to the store i applied to
Anyway,im trying to get in to Car sales if possible but have no experience in that job. I've offered to work a couple of days for free to learn the trade but still no intrest.
Just goes to show the way society is going that people cant even be botherd to communicate anymore. How hard is it to write a letter or pick a phone up?RANT OVER!!!!!!!!!
i can understand your frustration because im having the same problem, i just moved to north wales and have sent numerous applications off but only 1 has had the decency to reply and that was by email, im a 25 year time served plumber but because i have no piece off paper that says im a plumber i can not find employment its very frustrating and those fools down the job centre are about as useful as glass hammers. yours in frustration steve.
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09 September 2010, 08:44 PM
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I know im not from Wales Scoobies but im just going through the forums so hope you don't mind
i have been a car salesman for the last ten years no experience in necessary the reason they ask for that is they don't have the time to train people up anymore if you can get into a good main dealer and franchise a lot of them have apprentice programs for new starters in the motor trade and that gives you a great insight.
The best bit of advice i can give is make sure you list your life exp and bits and you need to prove you are a people person and reliable as the hardest thing is finding people who stick it out most people move on in six months cause they don't earn as much as they thought.
Your best bet would be a volume franchise ford vauxhall citroen etc to gain exp then you can move on to more desirable brands if you wish as for an idea of earnings you will prob start on a 10k basic plus 10% comm in the first year in the job you will do well to earn £25k but it does go up from there anywhere up to £45k is possible and you can go on to more.
The hours are long weekends etc and customers think you are out to rob them as long as you have thick skin and don't mind people saying no you will be fine.
As a trainer once told me you can shave a gorilla put them in a suit and they will sell cars as there are processes to follow and they work
once again sorry for hijacking thread and not teaching you to suck eggs Good luck and all the best.
To give you an idea before cars i sold everything from Double Glazing Gas and Electric and Kirbys to show i had a sales background the way i look at it is there will always be sales jobs out there
i have been a car salesman for the last ten years no experience in necessary the reason they ask for that is they don't have the time to train people up anymore if you can get into a good main dealer and franchise a lot of them have apprentice programs for new starters in the motor trade and that gives you a great insight.
The best bit of advice i can give is make sure you list your life exp and bits and you need to prove you are a people person and reliable as the hardest thing is finding people who stick it out most people move on in six months cause they don't earn as much as they thought.
Your best bet would be a volume franchise ford vauxhall citroen etc to gain exp then you can move on to more desirable brands if you wish as for an idea of earnings you will prob start on a 10k basic plus 10% comm in the first year in the job you will do well to earn £25k but it does go up from there anywhere up to £45k is possible and you can go on to more.
The hours are long weekends etc and customers think you are out to rob them as long as you have thick skin and don't mind people saying no you will be fine.
As a trainer once told me you can shave a gorilla put them in a suit and they will sell cars as there are processes to follow and they work
once again sorry for hijacking thread and not teaching you to suck eggs Good luck and all the best.
To give you an idea before cars i sold everything from Double Glazing Gas and Electric and Kirbys to show i had a sales background the way i look at it is there will always be sales jobs out there
09 September 2010, 08:49 PM
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Same here, had this for 6 months, BUT have an interview tomorrow for Christmas work in Royal mail, driving and warehouse work for Parcel Force. And then next monday I`ve another interview on a training scheme to do my class 1 lorry and all the cpc, hazchem, etc, etc. Which will work out better in the long run as they do it with employers, so I`ll gain experience which every employer wants but will never explain how you get it.
But had 6 months of sending off 3 -4 application forms a week, sending CV`s, even hand delivered a few only to be told that it never arrived.
I FULLY blame First Cymru Busses in Swansea for my current position, as the company doctor is about as much use as a fart in a lift.
But had 6 months of sending off 3 -4 application forms a week, sending CV`s, even hand delivered a few only to be told that it never arrived.
I FULLY blame First Cymru Busses in Swansea for my current position, as the company doctor is about as much use as a fart in a lift.
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Hi Calvin, sorry to hear you are still searching.
Zara just informed me that Admiral are taking on the end of the month. I know this is not the field you want but it will add as experience. Ie customer relations and dealing with awkward situations.
Would you like me to get more info for you Calvin?
Good Luck mate.
Zara just informed me that Admiral are taking on the end of the month. I know this is not the field you want but it will add as experience. Ie customer relations and dealing with awkward situations.
Would you like me to get more info for you Calvin?
Good Luck mate.
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Hi Calvin, sorry to hear you are still searching.
Zara just informed me that Admiral are taking on the end of the month. I know this is not the field you want but it will add as experience. Ie customer relations and dealing with awkward situations.
Would you like me to get more info for you Calvin?
Good Luck mate.
Zara just informed me that Admiral are taking on the end of the month. I know this is not the field you want but it will add as experience. Ie customer relations and dealing with awkward situations.
Would you like me to get more info for you Calvin?
Good Luck mate.
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i can understand your frustration because im having the same problem, i just moved to north wales and have sent numerous applications off but only 1 has had the decency to reply and that was by email, im a 25 year time served plumber but because i have no piece off paper that says im a plumber i can not find employment its very frustrating and those fools down the job centre are about as useful as glass hammers. yours in frustration steve.
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Hi Calvin, sorry to hear you are still searching.
Zara just informed me that Admiral are taking on the end of the month. I know this is not the field you want but it will add as experience. Ie customer relations and dealing with awkward situations.
Would you like me to get more info for you Calvin?
Good Luck mate.
Zara just informed me that Admiral are taking on the end of the month. I know this is not the field you want but it will add as experience. Ie customer relations and dealing with awkward situations.
Would you like me to get more info for you Calvin?
Good Luck mate.
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Zara will get the recrutment number for you. I'll txt it to you tomorrow. She will also refer you as a friend and they will phone you.
Hope this helps. Good luck
Hope this helps. Good luck
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Just had an interview for Christmas hours as a Parcel Force collection/delivery driver, apparently there have been 10-12 passing all the tests (like me) and they take on 10 with probably 2 being kept on full time.
Got another interview Monday for a Class 1 training work based thing, so gonna have to see what they say about what is gonna be done and when and if I get "paid" and make a tough decision.
Got another interview Monday for a Class 1 training work based thing, so gonna have to see what they say about what is gonna be done and when and if I get "paid" and make a tough decision.
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I think you'll find nearly all cmpanies don't respond nowadays and as said havn't for years, it's purly down to cost.
If you say the average job has 50 applicants. Thats either 49 telephone calls which your paying someone to make or 49 letters which is someones time to add the names and addresses to perform the mail merge/printing/folding and sticking into envelopes plus the cost of postage. I'm sure if you were paying the bills in these hard times you wouldn't bother doing either as the failed applicants mean nothing to your business.
I'm sure something will come along soon, Take anything as it always seems to be easier to get a job once your employed compared to getting one whilst unemployed. Sales is hard to get into unless you have a sales background.
Don't bother with comet/curries etc, they are **** to work for, the hours are really bad (Boxing day/bank holidays/newyears days etc) and the pay/bonus is awefull
If you say the average job has 50 applicants. Thats either 49 telephone calls which your paying someone to make or 49 letters which is someones time to add the names and addresses to perform the mail merge/printing/folding and sticking into envelopes plus the cost of postage. I'm sure if you were paying the bills in these hard times you wouldn't bother doing either as the failed applicants mean nothing to your business.
I'm sure something will come along soon, Take anything as it always seems to be easier to get a job once your employed compared to getting one whilst unemployed. Sales is hard to get into unless you have a sales background.
Don't bother with comet/curries etc, they are **** to work for, the hours are really bad (Boxing day/bank holidays/newyears days etc) and the pay/bonus is awefull
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I agree there about Comet - worked in one for a day, on Customer Services !! basically the managemnt left me high and dry - a woman came in moaning like hell about her Hoover, talked to me like **** - never went back
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Just had an interview for Christmas hours as a Parcel Force collection/delivery driver, apparently there have been 10-12 passing all the tests (like me) and they take on 10 with probably 2 being kept on full time.
Got another interview Monday for a Class 1 training work based thing, so gonna have to see what they say about what is gonna be done and when and if I get "paid" and make a tough decision.
Got another interview Monday for a Class 1 training work based thing, so gonna have to see what they say about what is gonna be done and when and if I get "paid" and make a tough decision.
I worked for parcelforce last christmas and the time before and they are good to ok for, i enjoyed it anyway. They asked me to go back this year but I'm working some where else so couldn't.
That blicking test you have to do is daft
Be suprised how many fail it. I hope you get the job and a tidy route. They dont tend to send christmas casuals to far, not as far as west wales or cardiff. Don't be suprised if you dont hear from them until late October when someone rings you out of the blue asking for your bank details lol
Good Luck
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Bit of an update,been to see about a job with Sinclair Skoda and spoke to the sales manager when i dropped my c.v off and he said id be guarenteed an interview and also went to see the Director of Days Motorpark and he said if anything comes up i would get an interview there aswell. Also going to a jobs fair next week to see Parcelforce and a couple of others