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Old 21 October 2012, 05:46 PM
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ok well earlier on today i took my scooby out for a weekend spin and i overtook this car on the loughor bypass heading towards llanelli when this guy got pissed started flashing his lights and all sort so i pulled over on the loughor bridge to see what his problem is and he goes "why u driving like a pratt so dangerously on the road you know im a police officer". (well something like that)
i just told him to go **** him self and more and told him your off duty what can you do go and do it. then he replies" im always on duty expect a call later" then he drove off.
what i need to ask i got a shot of his car but can he do this sort of thing thing and threaten me with the law when he is off duty getting a bit worried that this jerk is gonna do and report me and send out the plod.
please can someone help with what right he has if he really is a off duty copper cheers!
At the end of the day i just overtook him i dont know what his problem is the joker lol.

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Old 21 October 2012, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by wrx_sti_mudzy
ok well earlier on today i took my scooby out for a weekend spin and i overtook this car on the loughor bypass heading towards llanelli when this guy got pissed started flashing his lights and all sort so i pulled over on the loughor bridge to see what his problem is and he goes "why u driving like a pratt so dangerously on the road you know im a police officer". (well something like that)
i just told him to go **** him self and more and told him your off duty what can you do go and do it. then he replies" im always on duty expect a call later" then he drove off.
what i need to ask i got a shot of his car but can he do this sort of thing thing and threaten me with the law when he is off duty getting a bit worried that this jerk is gonna do and report me and send out the plod.
please can someone help with what right he has if he really is a off duty copper cheers!
no uniform
no equipment
no witnesses
no problem
Old 21 October 2012, 05:54 PM
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true thanks for the reply mate
Old 21 October 2012, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by wrx_sti_mudzy
true thanks for the reply mate
he might report you but without proof.....................**** him
Old 21 October 2012, 06:01 PM
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More than likely a section 59... no proof needed... we live in a free democracy
Old 21 October 2012, 06:02 PM
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yeah what an utter douche this guys was
Old 21 October 2012, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 53
More than likely a section 59... no proof needed... we live in a free democracy
refer to section 2...............no uniform

http://www.fastcar.co.uk/2010/07/15/...-a-section-59/
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A uniformed officer WILL have reasonable grounds to issue a Section 59 if an incident is reported by an off duty policeman If they want to get you they will.
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Originally Posted by 53
A uniformed officer WILL have reasonable grounds to issue a Section 59 if an incident is reported by an off duty policeman If they want to get you they will.
without proof i cant see how really
Old 21 October 2012, 06:11 PM
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Lol...
Old 21 October 2012, 06:18 PM
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And if he happens to be driving past when bigger boys are taking your toy off you he must not refer to always being on duty and use it to help out
Old 21 October 2012, 07:45 PM
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Next time don't stop,
Old 21 October 2012, 07:50 PM
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As above.but Police are always on duty even when there off if you get my drift.
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Expect a knock on the door,my son in law had one when an off duty copper seen him go through an amber light.They took his license off him and threatened prosecution if he didnt admit it.A week or two later they said they werent gonna prosecute and returned his license,I think it was due to a legal technicality myself
Old 21 October 2012, 08:07 PM
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Sorry but the welsh fuzz are the biggest load of ******* in the world!!!!
Old 21 October 2012, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 99mrbe
Sorry but the welsh fuzz are the biggest load of ******* in the world!!!!
This^^^^^

I live there and can confirm
Old 21 October 2012, 08:22 PM
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No doubt he has an inferiority complex & tiny manhood, hence his inability to accept being overtaken. Legally not much he can do, but they all stick together & if your card is marked they will be looking out for you. A mate had to sell his car & private reg for the same reason, after a similar run in evry time he went out in the car he got pulled for some fictitious petty reason.
Old 21 October 2012, 08:48 PM
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Thanks for the replies everyone.
Will it just be the car they will mark or will all my cars that get marked as they mark my name i only take out my impreza now and again on the weekends its not my daily drive its just ridiculous how sad some jokers are.

i had a pulsar gtir a couple of years ago and had a bobby knock on my door saying my exhaust is too loud some idiot must have complained i just told him if its passed its mot then technically its fit for the road simple heard nothing else of it but i did sell the car on couple of months down the line and bought a scooby.

some people just gotta spoil other peoples life as they got nothing better to do

anywayz i will wait and see what happens just hope i dont get stopped by the pigs left right and centre like 10 years back when i just passed my test
Old 21 October 2012, 09:48 PM
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How do you know he was even a copper and not some muppet?
Old 22 October 2012, 08:23 AM
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Should of asked for his badge number and clocked the reg of the car he was in and ask in your local cop shop if this guy is for real if your that concerned, as if he was just pulling a fast one the law dont like people who pretend to be them

And on another note if it was a copper just explain how unprofessional he was in the manner he was perusing you which obviously gave you cause for concern for yourself and your property hence why you stopped, and his profound use of language towards yourself was very unprofessional , as mentioned above if they have no hard evidence then they cant do diddly squat imo, your word against his and his version of events compared to yours, just make a formal complaint if **** does hit the fan, im sure it will soon be retracted but if it ever happens again just flick him the bird and drive on by
Old 22 October 2012, 09:47 AM
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^agreed, i wonder how he would have reacted if instead of being abusive back at him, you'd pulled out a notepad and asked for his name and badge number, written your own quick version of events, asked him to sign it, taken a photo of him and his car, say you work for the IPCC then driven off.

....likelyhood is he though that he was just a normal jobsworth and full of ****!
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Originally Posted by DannyBoy007
Next time don't stop,
Yeah what he said
It's rarely going to be anything but aggravation of some kind, never going to be a pat on the back whatever the circumstances.
It will either be verbal abuse or an invitation to try your luck at bop-the-****-with-the-flashing-headlamps.
Either way you don't need it.
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Don't do the crime, your scot free and you won't get a call from the fuzz. Looks like you have history anyway.
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Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
Don't do the crime, your scot free and you won't get a call from the fuzz. Looks like you have history anyway.
The OP just says he overtook a car.
Is that what qualifies as a crime?
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But how was it done?
Did he cut back in?
Was he blatting like a loon?
Was it a restricted speed?

OK then let's do some conscience testing.
Your passing a bloke getting duffed up, do you walk by?
A doctor see's a woman, child, man etc drop down in the street, do they walk past and say I am off duty?
A fireman is driving home and see a fire does he say "F**k it, I am off duty"?
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Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
But how was it done?
Did he cut back in?
Was he blatting like a loon?
Was it a restricted speed?

OK then let's do some conscience testing.
Your passing a bloke getting duffed up, do you walk by?
A doctor see's a woman, child, man etc drop down in the street, do they walk past and say I am off duty?
A fireman is driving home and see a fire does he say "F**k it, I am off duty"?
Yep your right, you can draw all of those conclusions from the simple statement " i overtook this car on the loughor bypass ".
He's blatantly guilty.
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Trooper, even if he went past the guy at 90 (which by the way isnt necassarily dangerous driving), any real off duty rozzer would know that without the calibrated kit and systems in place to hold a conviction theres NOTHING that he can do!

Flashing and pulling someone over in this manner is completely unproffessional and a waste of time!

And your examples ....

"Your passing a bloke getting duffed up, do you walk by?"

Police advice would be yes, get to a safe distance and call the police or you'll get a beating too .... is this right? NO!

"A doctor see's a woman, child, man etc drop down in the street, do they walk past and say I am off duty?"

No, but nore should anyone, let alone a trained proffessional in a position that can make a difference, so using that example should EVERYONE on the road have the right to stop someone they think isnt driving sensibly? NO!

"A fireman is driving home and see a fire does he say "F**k it, I am off duty"?"

NO, but he doesnt go to the garden shed, pull out a hose and wade into the burning building before dialling 999 and getting the kit there to tackle it properly either! So in essence, he does no more than ANY member of the public would do!

The way this guy behaved makes it VERY unlikely that he was telling the truth about being a real policeman, and as such, should be reported for impersonating one! Id put money on him being a vigilante bell end whos so up himself he cant handle being overtaken!

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Originally Posted by legacy_gtb
Trooper, even if he went past the guy at 90 (which by the way isnt necassarily dangerous driving), any real off duty rozzer would know that without the calibrated kit and systems in place to hold a conviction theres NOTHING that he can do!

Flashing and pulling someone over in this manner is completely unproffessional and a waste of time!

And your examples ....

"Your passing a bloke getting duffed up, do you walk by?"

Police advice would be yes, get to a safe distance and call the police or you'll get a beating too .... is this right? NO!

"A doctor see's a woman, child, man etc drop down in the street, do they walk past and say I am off duty?"

No, but nore should anyone, let alone a trained proffessional in a position that can make a difference, so using that example should EVERYONE on the road have the right to stop someone they think isnt driving sensibly? NO!

"A fireman is driving home and see a fire does he say "F**k it, I am off duty"?"

NO, but he doesnt go to the garden shed, pull out a hose and wade into the burning building before dialling 999 and getting the kit there to tackle it properly either! So in essence, he does no more than ANY member of the public would do!

The way this guy behaved makes it VERY unlikely that he was telling the truth about being a real policeman, and as such, should be reported for impersonating one! Id put money on him being a vigilante bell end whos so up himself he cant handle being overtaken!
It's all subjective and the fact is we have no evidence from either side of the "alledged incident".

We don't know if the OP was driving like a **** and is just eating sour grapes and embellising his account?
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Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
It's all subjective and the fact is we have no evidence from either side of the "alledged incident".

We don't know if the OP was driving like a **** and is just eating sour grapes and embellising his account?
Ever heard of the precept 'Innocent until proven guilty'?
Oh I forgot, this is Scoobynetland
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Originally Posted by Blue by You
Ever heard of the precept 'Innocent until proven guilty'?
Oh I forgot, this is Scoobynetland
Which means the "copper" could be telling the truth and got fed up when he was abused by the OP.

"i just told him to go **** him self and more"


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