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Security QQQ?? for Al...
Al... this is doing my tree in, can you help...
Trying to run nmap as root on Linux suse 10 and although i've got root priv nmap wont runas as root... any ideas or is this double dutch?
Darren
Trying to run nmap as root on Linux suse 10 and although i've got root priv nmap wont runas as root... any ideas or is this double dutch?
Darren
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I'm not a Linux Techie at all.. However..
Have you tried running it as a normal user? You will not be able to run the advanced/aggressive switches, but if you can run a basic Nmap ping switch (nmap -sP)... then you may find the version of Nmap is having problem with the Suse variant & Root (not Setuid)...
Can you straight ping any Hosts as Root?
I did find an addition that says 'NMap does not run as root due to bad interaction between the kernel and the user-space for pre calculated IP checksums'. But this seemed to affect earlier versions.. 10 should be OK.
If you can ping as Root then it'll be safer for me to eMail our Linux Support Guru... You could also try and download the latest nmap from:
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/update/
PS.. Or you could try Stickies idea...
Have you tried running it as a normal user? You will not be able to run the advanced/aggressive switches, but if you can run a basic Nmap ping switch (nmap -sP)... then you may find the version of Nmap is having problem with the Suse variant & Root (not Setuid)...
Can you straight ping any Hosts as Root?
I did find an addition that says 'NMap does not run as root due to bad interaction between the kernel and the user-space for pre calculated IP checksums'. But this seemed to affect earlier versions.. 10 should be OK.
If you can ping as Root then it'll be safer for me to eMail our Linux Support Guru... You could also try and download the latest nmap from:
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/update/
PS.. Or you could try Stickies idea...
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OK. A small lesson.
Nmap is a port scanning software tool. It is used to detect open ports on a target computer (Port 80 is used for the internet). It can also determine which services are running on those ports, and infer which operating system the computer is running (this is also known as fingerprinting). It is a handy network administrator's tool, and is used for penetration testing and general computer security.
Root The special 'admin' or super user account. This user is allowed to bypass the whole permission system. That is, root can change owners and permissions of files it does not own. Unrestricted access that can easily be used to destroy a system. This could be unintentional (just someone allowed to log in as root typing in the wrong command) or intentional (someone cracking a system on purpose).
Ping A utility that forwards data packets to check the quality of a link or verify the connection of a machine on a network / Internet.
Kernel The heart of an operating system. The kernel is the part of the operating system that controls the hardware / software.
Checksum A calculated value that is used to test data integrity
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Daz is having a problem running the Nmap program when logged in as Root. This shouldn't happen as Root should be able to do anything. I've asked Daz to try and run Nmap as a normal user and to try run a ping as Root to check if the account is functioning properly.
It could be that the Kernel and Nmap software are not talking together properly and the integrity of the software is being questioned (and thus refused to run) by the Kernel.
We'll keep you fully informed of progress..
Nmap is a port scanning software tool. It is used to detect open ports on a target computer (Port 80 is used for the internet). It can also determine which services are running on those ports, and infer which operating system the computer is running (this is also known as fingerprinting). It is a handy network administrator's tool, and is used for penetration testing and general computer security.
Root The special 'admin' or super user account. This user is allowed to bypass the whole permission system. That is, root can change owners and permissions of files it does not own. Unrestricted access that can easily be used to destroy a system. This could be unintentional (just someone allowed to log in as root typing in the wrong command) or intentional (someone cracking a system on purpose).
Ping A utility that forwards data packets to check the quality of a link or verify the connection of a machine on a network / Internet.
Kernel The heart of an operating system. The kernel is the part of the operating system that controls the hardware / software.
Checksum A calculated value that is used to test data integrity
*******
Daz is having a problem running the Nmap program when logged in as Root. This shouldn't happen as Root should be able to do anything. I've asked Daz to try and run Nmap as a normal user and to try run a ping as Root to check if the account is functioning properly.
It could be that the Kernel and Nmap software are not talking together properly and the integrity of the software is being questioned (and thus refused to run) by the Kernel.
We'll keep you fully informed of progress..
Last edited by Alan C; 27 December 2005 at 11:18 AM.
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Daz. One thing I briefly mentioned below was Setuid.
Make sure you're not using an account created by this to run Nmap as it may not be considered a 'proper' Root account to operate some of the advanced features...
Make sure you're not using an account created by this to run Nmap as it may not be considered a 'proper' Root account to operate some of the advanced features...
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Originally Posted by Alan C
OK. A small lesson.
Nmap is a port scanning software tool. It is used to detect open ports on a target computer (Port 80 is used for the internet). It can also determine which services are running on those ports, and infer which operating system the computer is running (this is also known as fingerprinting). It is a handy network administrator's tool, and is used for penetration testing and general computer security.
Root The special 'admin' or super user account. This user is allowed to bypass the whole permission system. That is, root can change owners and permissions of files it does not own. Unrestricted access that can easily be used to destroy a system. This could be unintentional (just someone allowed to log in as root typing in the wrong command) or intentional (someone cracking a system on purpose).
Ping A utility that forwards data packets to check the quality of a link or verify the connection of a machine on a network / Internet.
Kernel The heart of an operating system. The kernel is the part of the operating system that controls the hardware / software.
Checksum A calculated value that is used to test data integrity
*******
Daz is having a problem running the Nmap program when logged in as Root. This shouldn't happen as Root should be able to do anything. I've asked Daz to try and run Nmap as a normal user and to try run a ping as Root to check if the account is functioning properly.
It could be that the Kernel and Nmap software are not talking together properly and the integrity of the software is being questioned (and thus refused to run) by the Kernel.
We'll keep you fully informed of progress..
Nmap is a port scanning software tool. It is used to detect open ports on a target computer (Port 80 is used for the internet). It can also determine which services are running on those ports, and infer which operating system the computer is running (this is also known as fingerprinting). It is a handy network administrator's tool, and is used for penetration testing and general computer security.
Root The special 'admin' or super user account. This user is allowed to bypass the whole permission system. That is, root can change owners and permissions of files it does not own. Unrestricted access that can easily be used to destroy a system. This could be unintentional (just someone allowed to log in as root typing in the wrong command) or intentional (someone cracking a system on purpose).
Ping A utility that forwards data packets to check the quality of a link or verify the connection of a machine on a network / Internet.
Kernel The heart of an operating system. The kernel is the part of the operating system that controls the hardware / software.
Checksum A calculated value that is used to test data integrity
*******
Daz is having a problem running the Nmap program when logged in as Root. This shouldn't happen as Root should be able to do anything. I've asked Daz to try and run Nmap as a normal user and to try run a ping as Root to check if the account is functioning properly.
It could be that the Kernel and Nmap software are not talking together properly and the integrity of the software is being questioned (and thus refused to run) by the Kernel.
We'll keep you fully informed of progress..
Nmap - how to find nplace without nsatnav
Root - what you use nmap to find
Ping - a noise made by THAT machine in Monty Python's Meaning of Life
Kernel - Him wot invented the KFC
Checksum - What a maths teacher does with your work
Last edited by Sticky Stuff; 27 December 2005 at 11:50 AM.
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Originally Posted by corradoboy
OS X - a way of not needing to bother with all that $h!te. It just works, always, without fail or complication
Unfortunately, the real world is a little different. If it was that easy, you'd find that our multi-Billion $ business not using the 80%+ Windows and other non OS-X to manage your bank stuff.
TBH.. We use a lot of different OS and I can't think of any application we run on OS-X. I'll have a look tomorrow when I'm back in..
I'm sure Apple will send a loyalty badge / medal on to you soon..
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Zzap, now that takes me back a bit.
Back to the days of 8 bit machines running their own operating systems C64, Speccy and Amstrad, each having their own loyal following and their own bunch of magazines
Zzap, Crash and Amtix being from the same stable, based in Ludlow. Ah, the offices, the staff, the drunken xmas parties...
Sticky hands Dazza his laptop back and drifts off in a haze of memories...
Back to the days of 8 bit machines running their own operating systems C64, Speccy and Amstrad, each having their own loyal following and their own bunch of magazines
Zzap, Crash and Amtix being from the same stable, based in Ludlow. Ah, the offices, the staff, the drunken xmas parties...
Sticky hands Dazza his laptop back and drifts off in a haze of memories...
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Originally Posted by Alan C
I'm sure Apple will send a loyalty badge / medal on to you soon..
Please enlighten, O venerable one...
#17
I quote..
'Zzap!64 was a computer games magazine which covered the Commodore 64 scene from May 1985 to March 1994—106 issues in all. At its height it was the top-selling magazine of its type in Britain and had a sizeable fan base around the world. This was in part due to the staff's evident enthusiasm for Commodore software....'
So this came out 20 years ago, and you mean you didn't read/see at least one copy when you were 15+ ????????
Old git..
'Zzap!64 was a computer games magazine which covered the Commodore 64 scene from May 1985 to March 1994—106 issues in all. At its height it was the top-selling magazine of its type in Britain and had a sizeable fan base around the world. This was in part due to the staff's evident enthusiasm for Commodore software....'
So this came out 20 years ago, and you mean you didn't read/see at least one copy when you were 15+ ????????
Old git..
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posh Git!
I had (and still have...)
ZX81 with wobbly 16k ram pack
Speccy 48 (x2)
Speccy 128
Dragon 32
Amstrad 464
Beeb Model B
Atari ST 512
Amiga 500
and in the console dept...
Atari VCS 7800 (x3!)
Colecovision
Intellivision
Megadrive
PC Engine (Dog's blox in it's day, and still a nice piece of kit now)
PS1
PS2
XBOX
I had (and still have...)
ZX81 with wobbly 16k ram pack
Speccy 48 (x2)
Speccy 128
Dragon 32
Amstrad 464
Beeb Model B
Atari ST 512
Amiga 500
and in the console dept...
Atari VCS 7800 (x3!)
Colecovision
Intellivision
Megadrive
PC Engine (Dog's blox in it's day, and still a nice piece of kit now)
PS1
PS2
XBOX
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