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Old 26 December 2005 | 04:13 PM
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Al... this is doing my tree in, can you help...

Trying to run nmap as root on Linux suse 10 and although i've got root priv nmap wont runas as root... any ideas or is this double dutch?

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Old 26 December 2005 | 07:45 PM
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Old 26 December 2005 | 09:08 PM
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I'm not a Linux Techie at all.. However..

Have you tried running it as a normal user? You will not be able to run the advanced/aggressive switches, but if you can run a basic Nmap ping switch (nmap -sP)... then you may find the version of Nmap is having problem with the Suse variant & Root (not Setuid)...

Can you straight ping any Hosts as Root?

I did find an addition that says 'NMap does not run as root due to bad interaction between the kernel and the user-space for pre calculated IP checksums'. But this seemed to affect earlier versions.. 10 should be OK.

If you can ping as Root then it'll be safer for me to eMail our Linux Support Guru... You could also try and download the latest nmap from:

ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/update/

PS.. Or you could try Stickies idea...
Old 27 December 2005 | 01:01 AM
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Old 27 December 2005 | 07:40 AM
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Mac version....

Firewall, on/off ?
Old 27 December 2005 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by corradoboy
Mac version....

Firewall, on/off ?
What took you so long?
Old 27 December 2005 | 09:18 AM
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Old 27 December 2005 | 11:10 AM
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OK. A small lesson.

Nmap is a port scanning software tool. It is used to detect open ports on a target computer (Port 80 is used for the internet). It can also determine which services are running on those ports, and infer which operating system the computer is running (this is also known as fingerprinting). It is a handy network administrator's tool, and is used for penetration testing and general computer security.

Root The special 'admin' or super user account. This user is allowed to bypass the whole permission system. That is, root can change owners and permissions of files it does not own. Unrestricted access that can easily be used to destroy a system. This could be unintentional (just someone allowed to log in as root typing in the wrong command) or intentional (someone cracking a system on purpose).

Ping A utility that forwards data packets to check the quality of a link or verify the connection of a machine on a network / Internet.

Kernel The heart of an operating system. The kernel is the part of the operating system that controls the hardware / software.

Checksum A calculated value that is used to test data integrity

*******

Daz is having a problem running the Nmap program when logged in as Root. This shouldn't happen as Root should be able to do anything. I've asked Daz to try and run Nmap as a normal user and to try run a ping as Root to check if the account is functioning properly.

It could be that the Kernel and Nmap software are not talking together properly and the integrity of the software is being questioned (and thus refused to run) by the Kernel.

We'll keep you fully informed of progress..


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Old 27 December 2005 | 11:21 AM
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Daz. One thing I briefly mentioned below was Setuid.
Make sure you're not using an account created by this to run Nmap as it may not be considered a 'proper' Root account to operate some of the advanced features...
Old 27 December 2005 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Alan C
OK. A small lesson.

Nmap is a port scanning software tool. It is used to detect open ports on a target computer (Port 80 is used for the internet). It can also determine which services are running on those ports, and infer which operating system the computer is running (this is also known as fingerprinting). It is a handy network administrator's tool, and is used for penetration testing and general computer security.

Root The special 'admin' or super user account. This user is allowed to bypass the whole permission system. That is, root can change owners and permissions of files it does not own. Unrestricted access that can easily be used to destroy a system. This could be unintentional (just someone allowed to log in as root typing in the wrong command) or intentional (someone cracking a system on purpose).

Ping A utility that forwards data packets to check the quality of a link or verify the connection of a machine on a network / Internet.

Kernel The heart of an operating system. The kernel is the part of the operating system that controls the hardware / software.

Checksum A calculated value that is used to test data integrity

*******

Daz is having a problem running the Nmap program when logged in as Root. This shouldn't happen as Root should be able to do anything. I've asked Daz to try and run Nmap as a normal user and to try run a ping as Root to check if the account is functioning properly.

It could be that the Kernel and Nmap software are not talking together properly and the integrity of the software is being questioned (and thus refused to run) by the Kernel.

We'll keep you fully informed of progress..

Er... not quite...

Nmap - how to find nplace without nsatnav

Root - what you use nmap to find

Ping - a noise made by THAT machine in Monty Python's Meaning of Life

Kernel - Him wot invented the KFC

Checksum - What a maths teacher does with your work



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Old 27 December 2005 | 12:23 PM
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OS X - a way of not needing to bother with all that $h!te. It just works, always, without fail or complication
Old 27 December 2005 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by corradoboy
OS X - a way of not needing to bother with all that $h!te. It just works, always, without fail or complication
David Sir, I will give you 10 / 10 for sheer effort and blind loyalty

Unfortunately, the real world is a little different. If it was that easy, you'd find that our multi-Billion $ business not using the 80%+ Windows and other non OS-X to manage your bank stuff.

TBH.. We use a lot of different OS and I can't think of any application we run on OS-X. I'll have a look tomorrow when I'm back in..

I'm sure Apple will send a loyalty badge / medal on to you soon..

Old 27 December 2005 | 02:19 PM
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Zzap, now that takes me back a bit.

Back to the days of 8 bit machines running their own operating systems C64, Speccy and Amstrad, each having their own loyal following and their own bunch of magazines
Zzap, Crash and Amtix being from the same stable, based in Ludlow. Ah, the offices, the staff, the drunken xmas parties...

Sticky hands Dazza his laptop back and drifts off in a haze of memories...
Old 27 December 2005 | 02:20 PM
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I know of no business that run OSx... or am i missing something... :-)
Old 27 December 2005 | 04:58 PM
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Old 28 December 2005 | 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Alan C

I'm sure Apple will send a loyalty badge / medal on to you soon..

I know I'm not the youngest / oldest (by a long way ) of the crowd but they must be not of my time as I haven't seen / heard of them before

Please enlighten, O venerable one...
Old 28 December 2005 | 09:05 AM
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I quote..

'Zzap!64 was a computer games magazine which covered the Commodore 64 scene from May 1985 to March 1994—106 issues in all. At its height it was the top-selling magazine of its type in Britain and had a sizeable fan base around the world. This was in part due to the staff's evident enthusiasm for Commodore software....'

So this came out 20 years ago, and you mean you didn't read/see at least one copy when you were 15+ ????????

Old git..
Old 28 December 2005 | 10:10 AM
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Never had a C64 - I had a Beeb model B and used to subscribe to Personal Computer World and buy Acorn User
Old 28 December 2005 | 10:32 AM
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posh Git!

I had (and still have...)

ZX81 with wobbly 16k ram pack
Speccy 48 (x2)
Speccy 128
Dragon 32
Amstrad 464
Beeb Model B
Atari ST 512
Amiga 500

and in the console dept...

Atari VCS 7800 (x3!)
Colecovision
Intellivision
Megadrive
PC Engine (Dog's blox in it's day, and still a nice piece of kit now)
PS1
PS2
XBOX
Old 28 December 2005 | 12:02 PM
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ZX81 + 16k

BBC B

Apple G3 PowerBook

PS1
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