Microsoft's Apple research department CLICKY

 

Impressive!

I'd have been very surpised if MS hadn't been doing something to look at the Mac more closely, though the scale is impressive....

I've always taken Apple seriously, they do a fabulous product suite. But unfortunately, the Corporate world is not keen and the PC keeps the world turning. If ever the day comes when a Mac gets into our financial domain to run mission critical systems, then I'll sit up and take notice. Until then.........

 

Until a decent virus slips past the guards
X-Serve ;

 

Ok, i see the logic behind what your saying Dave; however, the reallity in the industry is simple... Many organisations have grown there networks from IBM, or Comparex mainframes to run Windows operating systems. And the main reason is becouse Windows servers took the industry by storm when introduced, basicly killing the mainframe.
When this happen everyone jumped onto the multifunction desktop platform software market, and consequently it grew more...
More software and applications then were added to the server side and the whole situation is self replicating...
The problem with that is everyone wants to break it... or want to work with it...
there's nothing wrong with Apple Mac, but the OS didn't lend itself initially to networks... and crucially it didn't have a server with the development needed to have credibillty...
Its wrong to think that the Mac is superior to the PC platform, simply becouse the users interface is better, or thats its more secure...
Mac's will have and do have as many security vulnrabilties as Windows platforms its just that less paople are interested in exploiting them... (at the moment) i had a very interesting conversation with one of our top security guys the other month thats exactly what he said...

When or if Xserver does well, and it does look a good Server OS, there will be people who will then show an interesting in getting into it... being a unix based system it will be as vulnarble as anything else... And thats the point to convince an organisation to leaps from what they now know to an unknown quantity is going to be difficult... And thats how everyone will look at it... what if i move platform, it becomes popular, and then everyone turns to hacking it... Same situation as microsoft...
If Mac had taken the lead in the 80's then we'd be in exactly the same situation... and you'd be saying how good Windows is..
its like a parralel universe theory...
Every manufacturer has there competitors kit... we have £750,000 worth of Cisco kit in our Lab... in the Uk alone, why wouldn't Microsoft being worthn billions have a section for the competition... Both companies have been intrinsicly linked over the years anyhow... I can remember Bill gates lent Apple something like $200 million to keep it going some years back, also Microsoft allowed MS office specificly to work with Mac's to assist Apple...
Anyhow there both as good as one another is what i'm trying to say, albeit in a long winded kind of way ;-)

g-neet...

 

I can't complain although it's been said that I make a better door than a Window...


coat....door...... etc

 

You've been quiet

 

Been away for a while on a mini jolly - am back now but tend to find I'm busy on other stuff

 

Hope to see you thursday then?

 

Wot dazza said. Some nice points there mate..

But I learned a while ago that Dave's blind faith will mean he's very determined to stay an Apple afficionado regardless of the facts or logic built against the brand...

I also loose the will to live when Dave replies backing Mac's against this tide of logic.... But it's nice to see we're keeping the windows of oppurtunity open at keeping dave on his toes....

 

should do provided I don't pull something on the golf course tomorrow night

PS I meant muscle as anything else would be almost a

 

Should I wear my MCAD and MCP badges on Thursday to wind him up?....no on second thoughts if I ever wear those, shoot me.

 

My faith is based on a rather simple premise. It does what I want, when I want it, without fail. For domestic use I simply cannot fault it. My humble little lappy is now about 6yrs old, and has had nothing more than a memory upgrade. With a paltry 400mhz processor, 9.8GB HD and 320m of RAM I can do every task I require, without ever having to worry about crashes, incompatability or any other such nonsense. What more is required from a home computer? A trustworthy, reliable and secure GUI and OS, reliable hardware, all the software you could ever need (although not as much by any stretch as is available for a PC) free I will be upgrading my machine fairly soon as I feel the need to handle HD video content coming on, and mine simply can't cope. I can't wait to get me a nice Mac Mini with 500GB Hell, I may get 2 and use one as a media centre downstairs when I get me a plasma TV

As an example of the simplicity of the Mac OS, my mate leant me his digital camera and insisted I'd need the 2 installer discs which came with it before I could get the pics onto my Mac. He was impressed when I simply plugged in the USB cable and the Mac automatically recognised not only that it was a camera, but exactly which one, opened iPhoto and in a single prompt asked if I would like to download the images stored on the cam, with a checkbox for wiping the CF card if req'd afterwards. Exactly the same when I bought a USB Bluetooth dongle. Came with a 1/4" instruction manual and 2 installer discs. Threw them in the bin and plugged in the dongle and lo and behold a bluetooth icon appeared in the menu task bar with dropdown showing all relevant options. Same with my printer etc etc etc.

So, why do I need a PC

 

Al sat back in his chair with a smug grin on his face, he knew he could always rely on his favourite toy, corradoboy, wind him up and watch him go he thought to himself.

 

 

Would I purposely wind David up for the cheap sport and to settle back with a smug knowing grin that all is well with the world????

I agree with your answer...

 

Who wound who up being as I posted this thread

 

settles down in comfy chair with popcorn

 

Oh, I forgot my Sony Ericsson phone, which also came with an enormous instruction manual and loads of installation discs. Launched iSync and it immediately recognised a P800 was nearby called "David's Mobile" and displayed a pretty icon of it. Clicked Sync and 30s later all my contacts, appointments, notes etc were wirelessly shared between both devices. No helplines required, no forums to go grovelling for advise. It just did what was needed, as usual. Isn't reliability boring

 

blah, blah, blah - yes it is