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Old 14 May 2006 | 05:13 AM
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out this aft in leeds noticed 3 speed camera vans "UNMARKED" my road angel was going off its **** at them

two of them were the big ivenco style ones parked on the footpath after a bridge next to the royal armories/calsberg factory and the other just off junction 4 on the m621 opp, halfords

and the normal size one was on kirkstall road opp,yorkshire telly


just thought id warn you all as there unmarked and hard to spot
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Check that post time mick not been to bed yet may regret this tomorrow

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Hmm, some photo's woud be nice as I believe they're supposed to be adequately visible and properly signed

Thanks for the heads-up James
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The question is, why's he got a roadangel in the 3bhp Corolla?
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I`ve seen those Iveco vans about, they`re plain white with a fancy camera stuck out of the roof. When approaching you think its just white van man sat in a lay-by.
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Hmmm sure they have to advertise the sites they're going to be at, and as Dave said be properly stickered up. The mobile sites can be found here:

http://www.westyorkshire.police.uk/s...orarylocations

It may be they're looking for tax avoidance / verifying registrations - I went past one of these last year and had 2 weeks of touching cloth afterwards.
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Thanks for the heads up, the GF goes to work that way...
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These are AMP vans only checking tax and insurance and other data bases for pool cars and inteligence only,casulty reduction team are the camera people currently using 1 ford galaxy! Which is fully livered
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Hmmm sure they have to advertise the sites they're going to be at, and as Dave said be properly stickered up. The mobile sites can be found here:

http://www.westyorkshire.police.uk/s...orarylocations

It may be they're looking for tax avoidance / verifying registrations - I went past one of these last year and had 2 weeks of touching cloth afterwards.
Can we have this link on more perminent could help scooby folk
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These are AMP vans only checking tax and insurance and other data bases for pool cars and inteligence only,casulty reduction team are the camera people currently using 1 ford galaxy! Which is fully livered
proberly just for tax dogers but you cannot be too sure these days my dad was done by a unmarked speed camera van

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The question is, why's he got a roadangel in the 3bhp Corolla?

6BHP its been superchiped
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Originally Posted by sti300
Can we have this link on more perminent could help scooby folk
We used to have THIS LINK but I think it's a bit out of date with some of the links. If I get time this week I'll try and compile a new one and then get a mod to make it a sticky at the top of our forum.
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We used to have THIS LINK but I think it's a bit out of date with some of the links. If I get time this week I'll try and compile a new one and then get a mod to make it a sticky at the top of our forum.
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proberly just for tax dogers but you cannot be too sure these days my dad was done by a unmarked speed camera van

cheers JB24
Only talking West Yorkshire your south?
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Ho ho ho was not in leeds today, nice day out in Leicester, and on the A47 going towards Peterbro, nice quite road, hade 2 fixed scameras locations on the 80 miles I did on it, M1 was boring though,
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The other week I saw, this site for mobile safety scameras,
WWW.SAFETYCAMERASWESTYORKSHIRE.CO.UK
NOT BEEN ON IT YET
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Originally Posted by sti300
Only talking West Yorkshire your south?
and proud of it



if yorkshire had a capital it would be BARNSLEY simply because we have real identity



p.s the wyioc is still the best club by far but you cannot have everything
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Originally Posted by JAKbauer24
and proud of it



if yorkshire had a capital it would be WAKEFIELD simply because we have real identity



p.s the wyioc is still the best club by far but you cannot have everything
could not agree more, well said that man
Old 14 May 2006 | 11:34 PM
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As I'm really chuffed off with scameras, I've just written the following to the address on the site and I'm hoping for a lucid, enlightening and profound response..

This is the first time I've been compelled to write after suffering cameras as a distraction to my driving for many years now. I'd like to point out that I've not been caught by a camera so I have no axe to grind.
I have, however, been the victim of the following dangerous driving this month, sometimes several times a day;
  • Appalling driving standards causing issues in a multitude of circumstances (including going too slow)
  • Dangerously weaving in and out of traffic causing multiple cars to brake
  • Use of a mobile phone and drifting into the another lane
  • Aggressive tailgating
  • Improper lane discipline causing undertaking
  • Late braking caused by a fixed camera causing traffic to brake hard
  • Passing through Red lights
  • Drink or drugged driving
  • Friends being the victim of a crash where the driver was neither insured, taxed or mot'd etc...
None of these involve speed and all are illegal within their context. Of course speed is an issue when an accident occurs, but the list above happens far more frequently as is the REAL blight to road users...

What stands out is that I have never been the victim of excessive speed from any vehicle. I've seen plenty of cars speeding, but I've rarely (possibly never) ever seen it cause an issue in my 24 years of driving. I suffer from some or all of the above list many times a week and I have witnessed several crashes where some of the above was the reason, speed was not.
I'm sure you drive and I'm sure you can relate to this kind of driving, but I need to know why the time and effort isn't spent on catching these type of road user who blight the daily use of the road for careful, considerate and legal drivers.

Why only monitor speed exclusively? Why can nothing else be done to broaden the scope? Please don't tell me that the scarce traffic officer is out there doing that bit. I daily see far more cameras & mobile vans than police traffic cars!

How can you continue to justify spending the manhours operating expensive technical equipment, parked at the road side to prevent what is ONE line from the above? Why spend countless hours parked just after a 50 MPH dual carriageway bend monitoring the speed of the hundreds of cars that pass? How many illegal, drunk and dangerous drivers pass through this speed trap??

Surely the time of these trained officers, their vehicle and technology could be better served with ANPR and catching the multitude of motorists with no licence, MOT, Tax or Insurance? What about giving these officers more discretionary powers and getting them out and about in their marked vans doing some good by ridding the road of the thousands more drivers who don't just give a toss about speeding, they don't give a toss about the dozens of others laws being broken.

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Probably in vein al as you know, but worth the effort in putting together and sending out, maybe if every motorist did the same it may have more rightfull attention paid to it

nice read by the way
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Your right of course, but I needed to send it.. Winds me up something chronic and reading their site annoys me further because it concentrates on only one aspect of **** driving..

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You may want to quote tonights Top Gear in relation to the drug-driving statement. JC stated that there are some Met figures quoting incidences of drug abuse whilst driving at 20% of under 25 year olds. The old statistics used to state that excessive speed was the primary factor in just 7% of KSI accidents, but the figures are massaged differently now to justify profiteering policy.
I also feel aggrieved that 24% of KSI's are attributable to a 4% minority whom travel without seatbelts, airbags, crumple zones, side-impact beams, roll protection, anti-sub seats or laminated windscreens. Bikers of course. A bucket on their head and two thumbs and a pair of ********* to absorb the impact
Cyclists are free to use the public highway from any age, with no formal training required and with no necessity to have adequate insurance for themselves or any third party Given that they are not required to pay VED, do not need fuel and so avoid fuel taxation and don't need insurance thus avoiding insurance premium tax, who finances the millions of pounds worth of cycle considerations on the public highways
Horseriders are much the same as cyclists, except that anyone, of any age is allowed to command an unpredictable, very large wild animal on the public highway.
80% of pedestrians killed or seriously injured on the roads step into the path of moving vehicles, and 86% of those after 10pm would be over the limit for DD.

So, if we remove all the accidents involving bikers, cyclists, pedestrians, horseriders and drink/drug drivers, not to mention other factors such as sleep deprivation, due care (mobile phones etc), mechanical failure, extreme weather and unforseen circumstances such as animals in the road or farm spoil, what are we left with ? Speed will always exaggerate the severity of any accident, but if the primary factor causing the accident was removed, the speed would have no effect on no accident. It is this which makes the policy on road traffic enforcement for the last decade a flawed and proven unsuccessful idea.
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Originally Posted by MickWrx
could not agree more, well said that man
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Originally Posted by Alan C
Your right of course, but I needed to send it.. Winds me up something chronic and reading their site annoys me further because it concentrates on only one aspect of **** driving..


top stuff but bad driving does not make money speeding no mater how fast (i.e 34 in a 30 @1:40am) does

its really that simple


as far as the cost of a average speed camera its around the 60k mark

and a (probation) new police officer's wage is around 20k so for every speed camera you pass to work in the morning /that could have been 3 bobbys protecting the community's


money well spent if you ask me not 12 months ago I awoke to see someone sat in the back of my brothers car removing the radio so i called the police .....
(P.C BEING THE PHONE OPERATOR)

me; hi someones in the back of my car stealing my radio

P.C RIGHT WHATS YOUR ADDRESS

ME' 5 SCHOO...............E.T.C

P.C there,s no one available at the moment here's your crime no. for your insurance

me. **** a crime no. there somebody sat in my car

P.C do not use that tone with me!

at this point I went outside and the thief was a women who promptly ran off

The next morning the police arrived at my house to take a statement you might presume no it was to summons me for bad language on the phone

so for me put more cameras in why would we need more police in this day and age ..... this not realised by the people who have snipers on there roofs, bullet proof cars and constant police onturages which makes them more than qualified to put more camera's in place as aposed to more police
further more this is not a rant about government policy's simply because I'd gladly take a bullet for most of them



ahh Rant over

yours JB24

p.s once again top stuff AL

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Originally Posted by JAKbauer24
this is not a rant about government policy's simply because I'd gladly take a bullet for most of them
I'd take a bullet to protect my family, but as for that bunch of lying, cheating, two-faced, hypocritical, double-dealing, back-stabbing b@stards, give me the bullet and I'll fire it, and if you get in the way James then I'm sorry. If only there was a modern day Guy Fawkes.
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Originally Posted by corradoboy
I'd take a bullet to protect my family, but as for that bunch of lying, cheating, two-faced, hypocritical, double-dealing, back-stabbing b@stards, give me the bullet and I'll fire it, and if you get in the way James then I'm sorry. If only there was a modern day Guy Fawkes.

Take it you did'nt vote for labour but what i said is true and having met most or downing street I still would
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It's not just Labour James. People who aspire to the higher echelons of power are usually led by personal gratification rather than a desire to achieve good for all. Whether they crave power, money, glory or publicity, they are mostly there for their own benefit. Billy Connolly once said, "The basic desire to become a politician should bar you for life from ever being one". Sincere politicians are a very rare breed, and they are usually weeded out long before reaching high office and denied progression into positions where they could make a difference by those who have too much to lose. To die for the honour of such dishonourable men would be a sad waste.
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yes i know but I still would

p.s do you think there's scoobs in heaven

sorry CB I don't really have a serious outlook on life as my jobs don't allow it

cheers james
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Al, you forgot to mention fog lights, do a re-write

Another statistic, 73% of pedestrians are caused by accidents
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Another statistic, 73% of pedestrians are caused by accidents

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