new scooby or evo ??????
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new scooby or evo ??????
right iv got xxx to spend on a car (pm for how much)
what do i do,,,scooby or evo
any help please
stu
what do i do,,,scooby or evo
any help please
stu
Last edited by stuart148; 18 January 2007 at 08:49 PM. Reason: so kelly dosnt find out lol
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That should get you a tidy VI with 40-50k, possibly even a decent Tommi (Yes please)
A decent VII with <20k
Or possibly add a little more for a low mile VIII (13k+)
A decent VII with <20k
Or possibly add a little more for a low mile VIII (13k+)
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Burbly motoring wise (just to show I'm not biased )
You're looking at a 2004/05 WRX or chip in a couple of hundred more and you're in '03 STi territory
You're looking at a 2004/05 WRX or chip in a couple of hundred more and you're in '03 STi territory
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Ask yourself what will thecar be used for...
If it's a weekend toy, then try the Evo fella... You can at least say you've done both. But bear in mind you're spending more on this than the two facelifts you've had as the Evo will be newer.
It'll probably suit your style too. Watch out for the Extra running costs mind. Especially if it's a daily commuter.
If you're wanting a lower cost weekly runner that you can use everyday for the commute, shop and family trips then the Scoob will be less hard edged. I tried the Spec C and it's noise, vibration and suspension were wicked, but it would have done me in as I would have used it 250 miles a week...
The small difference in performance will only show on the track. The harder edge will be more fun and rewarding but may be more difficult & certainly expensive to live with..
My 2 peneth and a bit haphazard with the pro's and cons...
If it's a weekend toy, then try the Evo fella... You can at least say you've done both. But bear in mind you're spending more on this than the two facelifts you've had as the Evo will be newer.
It'll probably suit your style too. Watch out for the Extra running costs mind. Especially if it's a daily commuter.
If you're wanting a lower cost weekly runner that you can use everyday for the commute, shop and family trips then the Scoob will be less hard edged. I tried the Spec C and it's noise, vibration and suspension were wicked, but it would have done me in as I would have used it 250 miles a week...
The small difference in performance will only show on the track. The harder edge will be more fun and rewarding but may be more difficult & certainly expensive to live with..
My 2 peneth and a bit haphazard with the pro's and cons...
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Rabid fans of the Subaru Impreza WRX that we are, there was plenty of salivating at the news that an Impreza WRX STi Type RA Spec C was in the Subaru press fleet. Aside from the incredibly long title, this iteration of the super Scoob has more grunt and less weight than a standard WRX, a recipe that's hard to argue with.
This Japanese-spec, right-hand-drive version of the STi is basically a Group N rally car, without the requisite competition safety equipment. (Indeed, Prodrive in England uses the Type RA as the basis for customer rally cars.) Like the STi, it has a 276-horsepower version of Subaru's familiar turbocharged 2.0-liter horizontally opposed four. With a unique electronic control unit and camshafts, along with a low-friction ball-bearing turbocharger, torque increases to a meaty 283 pound-feet.
Unlike the regular STi, the Type RA has a quicker-ratio steering rack (13:1 as opposed to 15:1), a three-gallon water-spray reservoir for the intercooler, a stiffer sport suspension with beefier anti-roll bars, a mechanical rear limited-slip differential, and a driver-adjustable electronic center diff. The torque split is set at 45/55 percent front/rear but can be changed to 50/50.
To go with the handling and driveline tweaks, the Type RA Spec C went on a 308-pound diet compared with a standard STi, losing things like the undercoating, air bag, radio, air conditioning, and even the passenger's sun visor. In the process, it also gained lightweight glass and a thinner-gauge roof panel and trunk lid. The car we tried was a Type RA Spec C in the sixteen-inch wheel-and-tire configuration, retrofitted with seventeens. Just to confuse everyone, Subaru also offers a Spec C with seventeen-inch wheels, but that model doesn't have the variable center diff.
On the street, the Spec C is about as spunky as small cars get. The turbocharged engine is nowhere near as peaky as a standard WRX's and provides meaningful grunt from 2500 rpm all the way up to the 8000-rpm redline. The steering is quick and accurate, the STi's carryover brakes (with four-piston front calipers) are terrific, and the six-speed manual gearbox is sweet.
Best of all, though, is the handling. This car counters the critics who complain about the WRX's tendency to understeer—which can be combated by lifting off the throttle to rotate the rear. The Spec C grips and goes, and it's easy to neutralize any initial turn-in understeer with a stab on the throttle pedal. Here's a WRX you can power-slide, should the mood take you. For neutral-cornering fans, just lock the center diff.
The ride is on the stiff side of firm, and the lack of creature comforts and sound deadening would make it a torturous everyday driver. Still, it's pure magic on backcountry roads. Even though you will never be able to buy a Spec C at your local Subaru dealer, the car gives a hint of what the dedicated Scooby tuners will do when the STi finally makes it here. Think awesome.
http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...rx_sti_spec_c/
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This Japanese-spec, right-hand-drive version of the STi is basically a Group N rally car, without the requisite competition safety equipment. (Indeed, Prodrive in England uses the Type RA as the basis for customer rally cars.) Like the STi, it has a 276-horsepower version of Subaru's familiar turbocharged 2.0-liter horizontally opposed four. With a unique electronic control unit and camshafts, along with a low-friction ball-bearing turbocharger, torque increases to a meaty 283 pound-feet.
Unlike the regular STi, the Type RA has a quicker-ratio steering rack (13:1 as opposed to 15:1), a three-gallon water-spray reservoir for the intercooler, a stiffer sport suspension with beefier anti-roll bars, a mechanical rear limited-slip differential, and a driver-adjustable electronic center diff. The torque split is set at 45/55 percent front/rear but can be changed to 50/50.
To go with the handling and driveline tweaks, the Type RA Spec C went on a 308-pound diet compared with a standard STi, losing things like the undercoating, air bag, radio, air conditioning, and even the passenger's sun visor. In the process, it also gained lightweight glass and a thinner-gauge roof panel and trunk lid. The car we tried was a Type RA Spec C in the sixteen-inch wheel-and-tire configuration, retrofitted with seventeens. Just to confuse everyone, Subaru also offers a Spec C with seventeen-inch wheels, but that model doesn't have the variable center diff.
On the street, the Spec C is about as spunky as small cars get. The turbocharged engine is nowhere near as peaky as a standard WRX's and provides meaningful grunt from 2500 rpm all the way up to the 8000-rpm redline. The steering is quick and accurate, the STi's carryover brakes (with four-piston front calipers) are terrific, and the six-speed manual gearbox is sweet.
Best of all, though, is the handling. This car counters the critics who complain about the WRX's tendency to understeer—which can be combated by lifting off the throttle to rotate the rear. The Spec C grips and goes, and it's easy to neutralize any initial turn-in understeer with a stab on the throttle pedal. Here's a WRX you can power-slide, should the mood take you. For neutral-cornering fans, just lock the center diff.
The ride is on the stiff side of firm, and the lack of creature comforts and sound deadening would make it a torturous everyday driver. Still, it's pure magic on backcountry roads. Even though you will never be able to buy a Spec C at your local Subaru dealer, the car gives a hint of what the dedicated Scooby tuners will do when the STi finally makes it here. Think awesome.
http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...rx_sti_spec_c/
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thanks jb after seeing YouTube - STi vs. EVO
i think its going to be,,,,,,
well you willl have to wait and see
stu
i think its going to be,,,,,,
well you willl have to wait and see
stu
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From: From : somewhere between here & there - also at wyioc.co.uk - are you?
I've had both, including the Scoob type R and I have to say the Evo is the better car, not by much, but still the better car.
However it does cost more to run, as it is my daily driver, and is not much cheaper to keep on the road than my old 475bhp Supra!!!!
However it does cost more to run, as it is my daily driver, and is not much cheaper to keep on the road than my old 475bhp Supra!!!!
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thought about it,,,and the ctr seems like a old mans car,,,,,,where a evo seems a mads mans car
and iv also ways wanted one,,,,,,,will just have to wait and see
iv got a mate who has started importing and hes going to see what he can get hold for me,,,,at cost
stu
and iv also ways wanted one,,,,,,,will just have to wait and see
iv got a mate who has started importing and hes going to see what he can get hold for me,,,,at cost
stu
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Ask yourself what will thecar be used for...
If it's a weekend toy, then try the Evo fella... You can at least say you've done both. But bear in mind you're spending more on this than the two facelifts you've had as the Evo will be newer.
It'll probably suit your style too. Watch out for the Extra running costs mind. Especially if it's a daily commuter.
If you're wanting a lower cost weekly runner that you can use everyday for the commute, shop and family trips then the Scoob will be less hard edged. I tried the Spec C and it's noise, vibration and suspension were wicked, but it would have done me in as I would have used it 250 miles a week...
The small difference in performance will only show on the track. The harder edge will be more fun and rewarding but may be more difficult & certainly expensive to live with..
My 2 peneth and a bit haphazard with the pro's and cons...
If it's a weekend toy, then try the Evo fella... You can at least say you've done both. But bear in mind you're spending more on this than the two facelifts you've had as the Evo will be newer.
It'll probably suit your style too. Watch out for the Extra running costs mind. Especially if it's a daily commuter.
If you're wanting a lower cost weekly runner that you can use everyday for the commute, shop and family trips then the Scoob will be less hard edged. I tried the Spec C and it's noise, vibration and suspension were wicked, but it would have done me in as I would have used it 250 miles a week...
The small difference in performance will only show on the track. The harder edge will be more fun and rewarding but may be more difficult & certainly expensive to live with..
My 2 peneth and a bit haphazard with the pro's and cons...
Alan has summed it up spot on ,having swopped the Scooby for my Evo late last year and had an Evo prior to the last Scooby then I have to agree with every word Al says.
I now dont use the Evo as an every day car as it is just to uncompromising and costly to run for commuting to work, where as the Scooby handled this fine.
Having said that ,when I do use it for runs and meets etc then within a couple of warming up miles a strange effect takes place, I start sweating, giggling and a wide grin appears .
This memory lasts all day and untill the next time I need my fix.
To sum up in a few words
EVO YOU KNOW IT MAKES SENSE
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my mate just been round ,,,and he told me he could get me a mint evo6 for about £6800/7k,,,,,or a evo7 at 8.5k/9k,,,both are shiped/sva/mot/tax
so looks like it could be a evo6 at that price
stu
so looks like it could be a evo6 at that price
stu
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